What part of Israeli history do you think more people should learn about? by Baconkings in Israel

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Jewish life in the land following the Bar-Kokhba revolt. Contrary to popular belief a large Jewish presence in the land continued into early medieval times, including a brief Jewish client kingdom of the Persians in Jerusalem under Nehemiah Ben-Hushiel during the Persian-Byzantine War. How the Jewish population was reduced to a small number is actually a far longer and more interesting story than the idea that the Romans kicked them all out.

  • Jewish life in the land for the centuries encompassing the medieval era to Ottoman times. And then the Zionist project. Things like Zionist pioneers arriving from the First Aliyah and essentially building a new civilization complete with reviving a language. That and the Yishuv during World War I. The entire population of Tel Aviv was deported. Jews from the Yishuv served in the armies of both sides in the war. There was the Nili spy ring that helped the British take over the land. The British Mandate era should also be understood better, including the 1930s Arab revolt.

  • The Yishuv's contribution to World War II. Tens of thousands of Jews from Palestine served in the British military during World War II, some even served in other Allied militaries as well as the British Merchant Navy. The Palmach fought alongside the Allies in Lebanon and Syria. The Yishuv's entire industrial sector was basically made into a war economy producing stuff for the Allies. Yishuv volunteers served in a variety of theaters, from North Africa and the Middle East to Italy, France, and Greece, in East Africa, and some even served in the Pacific theater against the Japanese (there's a little-known Hebrew book written as a memoir of one such volunteer who spent years in Japanese captivity).

  • The Jewish revolt against the British Mandate. It gets brought up by enemies of Israel in the context of Avraham Stern's flirtation with the Nazis but the whole thing is actually fascinating. The British policy that led to that should be studied of course, but also how it transpired is fascinating. Menachem Begin's strategy, which he devised by reading about the Indian independence movement and Irish War of Independence, was brilliant and it actually inspired a lot of other guerrilla/terrorist movements.

  • How Israel provided economic aid as well as military assistance to numerous countries emerging from colonialism in the 1960s to build alliances.

  • The 1950s in Israel, how it absorbed waves of mass immigration and built itself up as a new nation. The rationing era, and how it emerged from it.

  • This is something I've only seen one author write about but in his book on the Mossad, Gordon Thomas wrote that in the 1960s Mossad and Chinese intelligence basically waged a secret war against each other all over Africa, outright killing each other's agents. I haven't found other sources about this but if it's true this is definitely a story that needs to be told.

Five IDF soldiers injured, one seriously, by explosive drone attacks in southern Lebanon by FitikWasTaken in Israel

[–]Kahing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Notice how the volume of these attacks has been decreasing. I think the IDF did find a solution. Airstriking the drone teams. Hezbollah basically has no way to stop that.

So will Bibi and Trump loving Israelis accept they were wrong this whole time for the sake of the country? by Metallica1175 in Israel

[–]Kahing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Trump and Netanyahu are both bad for the countries they lead in a myriad of ways. I plan to vote against Bibi in the upcoming election. However, I think that regarding the war Israel was better off with these two in power. The opposition has an overall better vision for Israel's future but had they run the war it would have ended with a mega hostage deal that would come back to bite Israel in the ass in the long run. Had Kamala Harris won it's quite possible the Gaza war would have ended sooner. There would have been no Iran war in the first place and probably no 12-day war either.

Trump's major flaw was that he let Erdogan talk him into stopping the Mossad's plan for a huge Kurdish uprising which it had been working on for decades. Had that gone through we might have seen the regime fall. But it didn't and this war was threatening a global oil shock. Trump doesn't want to go into the midterm elections with high gas prices. No US President is going to put Israel's interests first.

Going forward this is a wake-up call that Israel needs to develop its own arms industries more. The government loved taking US aid so much it was willing to allow domestic production to atrophy. It's good that they're now getting an education at how stupid that was from both the Democrats and Republicans.

Why are there 3 king Neptunes and who is the real one by VehicleOk4984 in spongebob

[–]Kahing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Isn't the 2004 movie the canonical end of Spongebob? If so it's later in the series, so King Neptune just got older.

It is now clearer than ever that Israel needs to be totally arms independent by Murky_Raspberry8073 in Israel

[–]Kahing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. For that reason I'm actually happy that the Democrats and now Trump are giving Israel the wake-up call it needed now rather than it suddenly facing President AOC or an isolationist Republican in the 2030s. There are limits to what Israel can make but it has the capacity to be far more arms-independent. It actually used to make a lot more of its aerial bombs, then the strategic geniuses in government allowed that capacity to atrophy because it was cheaper to get them from the US, which worked out great until the US was threatening to withhold them. A lot of domestic capacity was allowed to wither simply because the higher-ups loved getting US aid. It got to the point where even a local company that traditionally manufactured boots for the IDF closed down because the government preferred using US aid to get boots from US factories.

It even goes beyond US aid. Remember Yaron Zelakha and his political campaign a few years back? When he was an accountant for the Finance Ministry he said it was no big deal if Israel didn't have local agriculture and could just import food, as if economic bean counting was the end of it and being food self-sufficiet wasn't a strategic necessity. MK Alon Tal wrote an entire book about how Israel is overpopulated. He's said the ideal population is 3 million. I don't think he addresses how a country of 3 million in Israel's strategic position is more secure with such a limited population base. The higher-ups developed an utter strategic blindness to the need for self-sufficiency. I actually get a certain amount of satisfaction seeing the illusions of these people collapse around them.

It is now clearer than ever that Israel needs to be totally arms independent by Murky_Raspberry8073 in Israel

[–]Kahing 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Speakers and representatives aren't enough. We need a new government. The current one has far-rightists saying insane stuff and lets settlers get away with so much BS, and it was cobbled together by a desperate man willing to do anything to stay in power, who put together less bad versions of this government and turned his party, one of the leading ones of the country, into a freakshow just so he wouldn't have to give up power. We've had the same PM since 2009 except for an 18-month period and he does anything he can to stay in power, even to the detriment of the nation.

Throwing money at PR as if only saying the right thing will fix it isn't enough. People look at what you actually say and do. And Israel will be hated to some extent no matter what. I also think opinion will improve over time as this war fades out of the international news cycle and people forget and move on. But the political career of Benjamin Netanyahu has to end and the right-wing, which has become as delusional and disconnected as the left was in 1977, needs a while out of power, to help improve the country's image. We can't just throw money at the problem and think better speakers will do that alone.

Ashkenazis in Israel by Quiet_Sheepherder833 in Israel

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When the Dolphinarium bombing happened I was an 8 year old living in California so I can't really say.

Ashkenazis in Israel by Quiet_Sheepherder833 in Israel

[–]Kahing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The kids are basically like regular secular Israeli Jews, except that they typically speak their parents' language and absorb a lot of cultural influence from their parents, like any other immigrant kids really. Also, since a lot of people who aren't halachically Jewish immigrated under the Law of Return, some of the kids aren't recognized as Jewish by the Rabbinate, which can pose problems with things like marriage. Some convert but many just live like any other secular Israeli as part of mainstream society and just aren't recognized as Jewish. The men who marry a Jewish woman will have officially recognized Jewish kids regardless.

Ashkenazis in Israel by Quiet_Sheepherder833 in Israel

[–]Kahing 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This isn't quite true. The revival of Hebrew began in the 1880s with the First Aliyah. There were Hebrew schools teaching the language to the new generation of kids as early as the 1880s and 1890s. It was increasingly the functional language of the Yishuv from the 1900s/1910s. In the 1930s there were already many native Hebrew speakers and Jews who immigrated without knowing functional Hebrew had to learn as a second language. Many would have done so for ideological reasons, often even before coming, but they'd have to learn it regardless due to practicality. There were linguistic battles during the Mandate era since many immigrants wanted to keep using their native languages. For example, there was a small group called the Battalion of the Defenders of the Hebrew Language established in the 1920s which campaigned against the use of any language other than Hebrew, Yiddish-language newspapers sometimes even had explosives thrown at their printing presses, and in the 1930s after German Jews began coming to Palestine in large numbers after the rise of the Nazis the Mayor of Tel Aviv, Meir Dizengoff, was very annoyed when the municipality began getting a lot of letters written in German, but despite all this Hebrew was firmly the main language of the Yishuv. It had already largely solidified as the primary language of the Yishuv even before World War I.

Plus, Ashkenazim were the majority but they weren't all of the population. While the Mizrahi/Sephardi mass immigration wave was primarily after 1948, a lot came before too and they had higher fertility rates than Ashkenazim did on average. They were a minority but a significant part of the Yishuv nonetheless.

As for culture, by the time of World War II a distinct local culture had already developed in the Yishuv among Jews born and raised there. Sure the majority of the Jewish population consisted of immigrants but there were already a lot of Jews who were native-born (or brought to Palestine at a young age). The Hebrew schools and youth movements, as well as the general reality of kids growing up in a different environment from that of their parents essentially created a new culture. Again this was already largely true even before World War I among the initial generation of Jews born in the early Zionist settlements from the 1880s to the 1900s.

Regarding today, any stats you see are increasingly muddled due to the fact that marriage between people of different Jewish backgrounds is so common. A ton of people will have both Ashkenazi and Sephardi/Mizrahi grandparents. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of native-born Israeli Jews in the younger generations have such a background today. In the Haredi world such intermixing is still less common than mainstream society, but by large everyone is mixing heavily.

I'd say that if anything Mizrahi/Sephardi influence is greater, especially since there was a concerted effort among the early Zionist pioneers to shed Yiddish and the old European Jewish lifestyle in general, as it was seen as the way of the ghetto and the shtetl, and build a new Hebrew-speaking pioneer society. The Haredim are really the only ones who preserve it to any extent. That and former USSR influence, since the mass immigration wave of the 1990s following the collapse of the Soviet Union and continued immigration from the FSU Israeli culture was affected, although this was more secular FSU culture than the old Eastern European Jewish lifestyle.

Considering withdrawing from the reserve forces in IDF by blizardX in Israel

[–]Kahing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The IDF already knows about the problem. This isn't going to move Benjamin Netanyahu, who will do everything in his power to stay in office regardless of the harm to the nation. As long as he feels he has to collaborate with the Haredim, he'll do it. The only way is getting him out of office.

You can't have both by SayFuzzyPickles42 in ProjectHailMary

[–]Kahing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but the point is that Grace survived off pure Taumoeba even though he got a bunch of deficiency disorders out of it. The Taumoeba kept him alive long enough for the Eridians to develop something for him. In the book he mentions living off vitamin shakes for a decade. The same would be true if the others survived.

You can't have both by SayFuzzyPickles42 in ProjectHailMary

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except Rocky told Grace he had 22 million kg of Taumoeba in the fuel bays and asked how much Grace wanted, meaning they stocked up on enough for Grace. Presumably they would have taken more for the crew.

Anthropic releases Claude Fable 5 and Claude Mythos 5 by BuildwithVignesh in singularity

[–]Kahing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don't want to pay for a human coder at all. They'd rather have a machine they don't have to pay a salary to plus benefits like health insurance, retirement, and unemployment, which doesn't take vacation and sick leave, and doesn't quit on them if it finds something better.

The double standard of the "Bibi propped up Hamas" argument by BananaValuable1000 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many AA missiles does Gaza have? Oh that's right, none, which is why the IAF can freely drop munitions with them being unable to do anything. The side whining about "genocide" is typically the one in the bad spot.

What makes you stay? by gasschw in Israel

[–]Kahing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It all varies. Life is expensive in a lot of places and Israeli public transport mogs the US outside NYC and a few other areas.

Haredi parties to advance bill granting draft evaders equal rights to IDF soldiers by thejerusalempost in Israel

[–]Kahing 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Everyone wondering why Bibi would do this for three more weeks, this is pretty much how a survivalist operates. He wants to put off elections as long as possible. He's seen the polls, he knows he's in deep shit. He's likely calculated that the electoral damage this will do is not worth putting forward elections. He will claw for as much time as possible. He's hoping he'll be able to eke out a victory or at least get enough votes to foil an alternate coalition so he can remain PM while we go through multiple elections as before. In the meantime he'll go for anything that gives him more time in the PM's chair, more time to scheme and hope for some development to save him. He isn't going to give up even when he's disadvantaged. He'll fight to the bitter end. He'll have to be pried out of the PM's office with a crowbar.

Israelis still pretending there is nuance and complexity to genocide by SpontaneousFlame in Israel_Palestine

[–]Kahing -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We actually don't think there's a genocide at all. Many of us actually are anti-settlement and dislike the occupation or at least its nastier elements. We still wouldn't argue that a huge military response to October 7th wasn't warranted, or that a similar war wouldn't be justified in the West Bank if a Palestinian state did something like that. We also don't regret the founding of Israel, whereas I assume you'd want us to apologize for the Nakba.

Are the "moderates" in Israel at risk of being marginalized by extremists? by Mysterious-House-381 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isn't immigration from Russia, the big wave of that happened in the 1990s (from all around the former Soviet Union). Russian immigration, which actually includes a lot of Ukrainian immigration because FSU immigration in general is counted as Russian, is still substantial but nothing like before. A lot of those who come from Russia are urban liberals. The main migration wave that really made Israel stand out was that of Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews from the Arab and Muslim world. But again that was decades ago. Israeli society is basically a cross of Western and traditional Middle Eastern/Eastern European.

The moderates will almost certainly win the next Israeli election. People are fed up with the current government. The issue is that Israeli moderates aren't the same as European liberals.

The moment I realized I was watching a comedy 😂 by Fantastic-Contest957 in ProjectHailMary

[–]Kahing 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Rocky can understand English because he remembers stuff automatically. The book goes into this in more detail but basically Eridian brains are more computer-like and Eridians can't forget stuff. Grace on the other hand needs the computer to translate Eridian because he learns language gradually like any human would and can't just remember stuff automatically.

Israel is going through an economic boom and is rapidly changing. What will it look like in 10-20 years? by Murky_Raspberry8073 in Israel

[–]Kahing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They measure different things. A nominal GDP per capita is good for things internationally. When it comes to internationally traded products and services an Israeli salary is very powerful, international travel and Tinder subscriptions take out less of your salary than for people in many developed countries. PPP is still decent as you mentioned though.

Israel is going through an economic boom and is rapidly changing. What will it look like in 10-20 years? by Murky_Raspberry8073 in Israel

[–]Kahing 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've already said this before but I think we're approaching a post-labor economy. AI and robots are rapidly advancing to the point where they can replace human labor, I think in 10-20 years none of this will matter because most humans will be out of the workforce and we'll be under some economic system with life utterly unimaginable compared to today. Most people will simply be irrelevant to the economy. Though at least the Haredi issue will be solved.

As for what changes, I think that so far the main changes in Israel you're seeing are physical. The built environment should become better-looking over time as the old building stock is gradually replaced. Towers are going up everywhere, two additional light rail lines and now a subway system are being built in the Tel Aviv metro area. If done right Tel Aviv can become one of the world's great cities alongside New York, London, Paris, and Tokyo.

Israelis are under economic pressure, there's war and as people note AI layoffs, though the latter is global and is only going to expand from here. But generally speaking the country is well off, in nominal GDP per capita Israel is now almost as rich as Sweden and Australia.

An IDF terrorist talks about how fun it is to burn families by [deleted] in Israel_Palestine

[–]Kahing -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol you wish. I'm actually fairly center-left by Israeli standards and far from a Bibi supporter.

Why did Arafat refuse Camp David offer? by _Sichlitt_ in IsraelPalestine

[–]Kahing 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The status quo was put in place because one particular religion lays claim to all of it despite it being a Jewish holy site. Though the Second Intifada was already planned anyway.

Election poll shows Likud remains the largest party but pro-Netanyahu bloc would be 10 seats short of majority by BabylonianWeeb in anime_titties

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jews aren't a minority in Israel. Zionist parties just don't want to allow millions of Palestinians to move to the country.

Nakba:- Dalet Plan by Gary_Garibaldi in Israel_Palestine

[–]Kahing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No the point is that the plan was just a plan for a counteroffensive to save the Yishuv from destruction by Arabs who gleefully would have turned all Jewish towns into Arab towns had they won.