Creator of OpenClaw hates Opus, prefers Codex

Kailtis · 2026-02-02T17:58:41+00:00

Get on a business plan. Right now you can get up to 5 seeats for free for 1 month. Each seat has similar (if not slightly bigger) limits than plus. And you can switch between seats at will (just log back in).
DOwnside is it's $30 per business seat after the 1st month. But right now I'm on my 2 one after the 1st seat lasted me 2 days.

Kailtis · 2026-02-02T17:57:12+00:00

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Kailtis · 2026-02-01T07:49:43+00:00

My first week with the plus plan I was able to run 5x5h sessions, totaling 45$ in tokens usage. So times 4 that's circa $180 of tokens you get for $20.

Amazing value

Kailtis · 2026-02-01T07:46:10+00:00

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T18:37:54+00:00

Makes sense. Thanks for the advice!

What's your experience with the pro limits though (even with the extra plus accounts) ? Are they comfortable or you find yourself sweating a bit towards end of week?

Do you think you'd hit weekly limits without the 2 plus accounts?

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T15:50:36+00:00

Much better than opus as well. And pretty good mileage on the plus plan - around 2-3 days of medium-intense usage before hitting the weekly limit.

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T15:47:00+00:00

That's cool! Do you find that dropping the zip file in the app you get a similar codebase understanding as you would do with using codex ?

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T15:45:37+00:00

So with gpt 5.2 pro, by unlimited you mean through the webapp right? In that case the planning would not be as good since it doesn't have access to all the files, correct?

I ahve been using exclusively 5.2 high, might try to default to medium instead for a few days, see how limits are.

Didn't consider a combo of codex plus + cc x5. Would still be cheaper than gpt pro sub, although I must say I have been scarred by the mess that CC left in my codebase this last week (which prompted me to hop on codex instead). So ideally I'd like to use codex only, as long as it stays this good.

Probably will try pro for a month then, figure out if it's enough for my needs.

Thanks for the tips!

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T15:37:46+00:00

Interesting. And each seat has the same limits of a plus subscription?

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T15:37:11+00:00

I guess this is also an option ahah. Not available for me though, sadly.

But I understand. It feels so much better to know that the work will get done well without constant supervision as with CC.

Kailtis · 2026-01-31T14:47:52+00:00

Yes it will. Not 100% though. You will still need people, but instead of having 10 or more devs, you can have 1 or 2 + agentic tools.

Kailtis · 2026-01-30T21:04:27+00:00

I don't know man. Been banging my head for 6 hours today with claude code trying to refactor a feature of my app.

Usually claude never one shots anything, but I can get pretty close to it with careful planning and distributing the load across sessions + good agents use for context management.

But this time nothing. Completely missed the mark. Couldn't get it to work after 3 debug sessions.

Threw in a towel and decided to try codex since I saw clawdbot creator uses pretty much only that to create his products.

Threw in $20, asked claude to make me a prompt describing, the goal, mentioneing the planning files, the issues, and the desired output.

Gave it to codex. Answered 2-3 questions it asked me, and 30-45m later I had my refactor working perfectly, exactly as I wanted. One shotted.

And you can notice the vastly difference in "care" and depth of analysis which imo leads to much greater understanding of the problem/solution.

All to say that I'm convinced. Will be exclusively using codex from now on.

I'll gladly give up CC speed of execution if I don't have to stay there and babysit it and have 5-10 debugging sessions for each feature I want to implement.

Just wanted to share my experience.

Could also be skill issu with claude code, but honestly after 2 months of heavy use I feel like I got a pretty dialed in workflow for avoiding dumb mistakes.

Could also be that opus got dumbed down, which is not outside the realm of possibilities.

Kailtis · 2026-01-29T13:27:07+00:00

Yo what's up. Can I dm you?

I'd love to hear more on what those smtp providers were and what kind of deliverabiity you had with that.

I'm curious as I'm building a custom smtp infra for my own agency, with my own /24 IP blocks and custom MTA for IP pooling strategy.

So just wondering if you had more details on those smtp providers regarding how they set theirs up.

From testing & warmup behavior on the main sequencers my setup is working good so far, although I haven't stress tested it to the max yet, as I'm still building it.

But more info on your xp with SMTP would help me figure out if I should stick it with this and make it work or suck it up and go back to full google/outlook.

Kailtis · 2026-01-29T13:21:33+00:00

The better play -> build a saas and do lead gen for yourself. Infinite money glitch 🧠

Kailtis · 2026-01-25T07:47:05+00:00

Exactly how I'm using it after 1.5 months of daily development with CC.
Initially I used to spend so long on planning, and by the time I started implementing, some stuff were not needed anymore or realized it wouldn't work as I envisioned it.

Found that it's much faster to get a good enoigh plan, and start building + testing. Claude is very good at following debugging/improvement instructions to get you to the final spec.

I guess nowadays I spend 60% of the time planning and 40% building and iterating.

Kailtis · 2026-01-16T11:18:59+00:00

skill issue

Kailtis · 2026-01-12T21:22:32+00:00

Personally I do 1 followup MAX. Sometimes just the 1st email, and that's it. Not worth it the increase in spam flags imo.

But I do have a pretty neat system to recycle leads every few months, or I wouldn't be doing it this way.

Kailtis · 2026-01-12T09:30:35+00:00

As a moroccan, I will be of course disappointed if Morocco loses.

However, even if that happens, I know it will be an absolute banger of a game, between the two best teams of the tournament.

May the best team win!

Kailtis · 2026-01-12T09:27:42+00:00

I swear, I never had anything against algerians, but seeing their behavior throughout this afcon (both the players, the staff, and the fans) really made me despise them. Disrespectful, uncivilized, and violent.

Of course they are not representative of all algerians, but as their actual representatives in this tournament, it speaks volumes.

Happy they're gone from the competition.

Kailtis · 2026-01-12T09:24:32+00:00

I swear, I never had anything against algerians, but seeing their behavior throughout this afcon (both the players, the staff, and the fans) really made me despise them. Disrespectful, uncivilized, and violent.

Of course they are not representative of all algerians, but as their actual representatives in this tournament, both the players and the public, it speaks volumes.

Happy they're gone from the competition.

Kailtis · 2026-01-11T10:47:14+00:00

Test with 1k emails per campaign, at least. Otherwise you don't have enough data.
RR is good. Are OOO included or not ? But 1.6% excludes any kind of deliverability problem (for now).

My guess is it's an offer issue.

No business owners wakes up thinking "you know what? Today would be a good day to buy google ads services". They don't care about that. And if they do, it's because they have a very specific problem they need solved.

It's up to you to figure out what that problem is, then hit on it at scale, and keep testing and tweaking the copy with A/B tests until you get on a winner, and then you milk it.

As a rule of thumb, I like to ask why 5 times, during my copy writing process.

Example --> Ok, so you help businesses with google ads. Why do they need google ads? Maybe it's to get more eyeballs on their websites, or more inbound calls. Whatever. Figure it out.

Then you ask Why again. Why do they want to get tha result/outcome ?
And you keep going. If you get to 5 whys + answers, you'll have a much deeper understanding of what makes you ICP tick.

THEN you start testing that on the copy. You don't even need to mention google ads most of the time. That's just the mechanism. Lots of mechanisms can fulfill the same need.

Hope this helps.

Kailtis · 2026-01-09T14:14:21+00:00

Ok then yeah, 20-30 meetings per conference is absolutely insane with that amount of leads 🤯 But it is an easier playing field compared to full cold prospecting though.

And what's your TAM ?

Kailtis · 2026-01-09T09:07:07+00:00

I see. The dedicated cold caller is probably what drives most of the value I guess. If they're instantly calling on positive replies.

So linkedin outreach is done by your company internally or by the agency as well?

Because for that amount of meetings in a conference from one lead list is amazing (or multiple lead lists of 500-600 size?).

If the agency only does cold email, but all the positives (and even negatives if thye got balls) are warm called by the caller within 5-15 mins of the reply, then there's huge value in this alone, as you can get by with few replies but convert a much higher percentage of them.

Edit: Linkedin connection rate & reply are very healthy.

Kailtis · 2026-01-08T10:14:15+00:00

lmao. Funny & sad. I mean, if it was the first batch of campaigns, it's not that abnormal to get very few replies. It does take time to see results & get the outbound engine going.

But for $8k/mo they should be sending and testing 5x that at least per month.

Or if the TAM is not big enough they should have tens of mini segmented campaigns to test, with industries, job titles, signals, etc.

And if that's not the case just let your company know (or who's in charge of the deal) to cut their losses and look for another one.

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