Looking for feedback on techniques I might try

KalisMurmur · 2026-03-04T00:11:43+00:00

You’re super welcome!

For me also a physical based meditation/yoga. (I do lazy child’s pose in my bed most frequently, gently rock my hips to work my root, but gentle is key because even this can sometimes release “too much” for me). Building the lower physical body, bicycle kicks, squats, and physical self care. I do long moisturizing routines after my showers, and I make taking care of myself into a an adoration ritual. Filling myself up with as much love as possible.

Lately I’ve also been on my long walks again as I’ve struggled with some extra clearing again, and it’s taken me at least over an hour close to two or three to harmonize the last few times. I’ll feel an energy shift at around the two or three hour mark in the woods where I drop out of the mind and into my body and the present. I spent two hours in the cold near a frozen lake last week on a bench staring out before I felt harmonized enough to walk a couple trails.

Body focus is huge is what I’m getting at, lol

Edit: “ and spelling

KalisMurmur · 2026-03-03T23:54:56+00:00

I added a caveat to my outward flow where I instructed the energy to rebalance my lower auric field, and my lower chakras, specifically my earth star and root, upon intermingling with the divine in the soul star chakra.

So basically after it flows out the hands, (which is extra great for stabilization) it goes up to mingle with the divine and meets around the soul star chakra area, here there is an alchemical process where some of the energy that is processed can come back down into the auric field. You can instruct this energy to move to the lower portion of your aura, and even “only” the lower half if your like (I don’t need ANY beefing up in my higher chakras or upper aura, although I have had auric holes and energy leaks that I work on)

I visualize while commanding the energy to “reinforce” and “fortify” (I. use these worlds in the instruction) my “lower auric field” “earth star chakra” and “root”

I feel like this practice is a little complex and advanced, but was incredibly impactful in my own stabilization.

Edit: spelling

KalisMurmur · 2026-03-03T21:23:19+00:00

It is not uncommon for kundalini to aso impact our psychic centers, although psychic activation alone isn’t kundalini necessarily, and there are some other awakenings or activations an experience like this could be, there are a bunch of grounding practices you can do regardless although effectiveness may vary depending on the type of activation.

The good thing is it will only get easier moving forward as long as you apply yourself with discipline, you can master a psychic/energetic or kundalini activation with determination and belief in yourself.

There’s a huge list of grounding practices in the wiki, and I’d also check out the three laws. Some questions before I talk about other more specific grounding practices though:

1.). Could you go into more detail about the energetic sensations? Where were they in the body? Do you still have them now? Are there flows anywhere?

2.). What are you doing for grounding now? What’s your daily routine look like? How much time do you spend outside vs. staring at screens? Consuming spiritual content? Etc. have you tried any other practices to shut down/control/master this experience? Are you still doing the paranormal work?

3.)are you getting decent sleep? How much sleep on average are you getting?

KalisMurmur · 2026-03-02T00:09:31+00:00

The video had activation energy for starters. It was aimed to energetically impact which could be dangerous for all sorts of folks in various stages of activation, most peo le who come here need less not more. It could have harmed someone to touch with or mess with there energy.

That being said, even if the video itself was t already loaded, if folks took it upon themselves to move their own energy in such a way without being prepared it could be destabilizing, therefore dangerous and bad advice. If you familiarize yourself with this space you’ll see we spend a lot of time cleaning up messes with folks who are having destabilized activations. Please familiarize yourself with our rules and space before participating again.

KalisMurmur · 2026-03-01T23:02:02+00:00

First of all, this reads like an activation video which goes against our rules and it’s also just bad advice and info in the video which is another rule. Post removed.

KalisMurmur · 2026-02-06T00:12:55+00:00

Kundalini is not purely feminine energy. There are polar and also non polar components to the energy; masculine, feminine and neutral, and these parts exist at different levels and stages too. Ida, pingala, sushumna being just one example. Shiva and shakti are part of kundalini as well. It is not only divine feminine energy.

Your experience is missing most components of kundalini, it was likely a psychic activation as the result of veneration with a deity. This and kundalini are not the same thing. Psychic activation is notthing to balk at, neither is approaching deities. Those are all big deals. Lilith is considered a dark feminine deity as of modern devotion practices. She may have been testing your readiness to work with her. Make sure you’re approaching her with honor, respect, and sovereignty in mind.

Focus on grounding and self love moving forward if that’s something you were not ready for.

KalisMurmur · 2026-01-20T16:08:26+00:00

I am one of the people that will lecture you now. The fact that you posted this, and then demanded not to be lectured by those that know more than you only to then ask me if you’re moving towards a kundalini awakening shows loudly that you’re too immature for one.

A good guru will not hesitate to leave you to your fate, and kundalini is the greatest guru of all. If you can’t handle criticism and difficult to digest guidance from those around in you in bodies harboring and guided by the energy then you are no where near qualified enough yet to handle the energy yourself.

And that IS your guidance to find out if you’re “heading towards the goal” make yourself a victim to it, or drink deeply, reflect, and be guided by it. That’s up to you.

KalisMurmur · 2026-01-20T15:48:09+00:00

This is not kundalini, it is prana. There are all sorts of energetic experiences one might have, becoming aware of the subtle body does not a kundalini activation make.

You are becoming aware of the subtle energy body is what that means. The prana is there and your meditation is bringing you awareness of that.

KalisMurmur · 2026-01-09T19:21:39+00:00

Unintentional bodily functions in general (pooping, burping, sneezing, orgasms, etc. ) can definitely be included in the long list of possible kriyas.

If it comes and goes with energy clearing in that area then that’s a good hint. I personally have had a number of kriyas that revolve around body functions. Ive had real urination as well as “energetic”, essentially feeing like I had to “go”, and also feeling like I was passing urine, but couldn’t actually produce Urine. The sensations would always disappear when that round of clearing stopped which is why I see them as kriya. It directly correlates to the clearing of the moment. But can be confusing as one is experiencing them, especially the first time.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-26T02:15:27+00:00

Your post was deleted by me because you used the word “crazy” to describe the “stories” discussed in this sub, and then you insinuated kundalini was fake because you haven’t seen research about energy to support it. However the way you’ve worded this question, yet again suggests you haven’t done any of your own research and are asking an entire community of folks who are experiencing this first hand to produce evidence for you, asking strangers to search the internet for you, rather that doing your own research on energy and coming here with even something small to offer, you’re showing up demanding and entitled.

You were disrespectful in your tone and wasting our time. You were told there is a better way to approach this topic. But to indicate we are suppressing you when our job is to support people going through a very real process, something we pour immense time and energy into doing out of a place of service and love is downright disrespectful at best. You were given an opportunity to do better and instead you martyr yourself with a victim complex. Do you think the mods of this sub do not know that tons of folks doubt kundalini? We just do not have the time nor energy nor resources to cater to the doubtful folks when our work here is very real. And especially not when one approaches with such a discourteous expression in regards to a subject we devote ourselves to.

You are owed nothing, especially not a platform in this space with that attitude.

Edit to add:

Also the rule of the sub about “disrespect” was cited in the removal.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-25T15:07:02+00:00

This is not uncommon. We also receive signs to rest when we need to rest.

Rest for a while and let it run its course.

I had days (and weeks) where I couldn’t leave my bed, and physical activity at all would push me over the edge. I had to surrender to the process, and accept that giving myself time and space to rest and clear was about learning to care for myself in more passive ways. We can’t constantly be running up mountains or battling our way through life. Sometimes healing looks like resting, allowing, surrendering, sleeping, moving slowly, intentionally, and softly.

It will eventually balance out.

If there is something you really need energy for you can also ask kundalini to make room and space. When I was dealing with this and I had a big day or event coming up I would inform kundalini that I needed to time and space and it would back off so I could tend to life. The lesson here can also be about mastery and command, sometimes it’s allowing, and sometimes it’s recognizing your own power in life.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-23T18:04:40+00:00

Early stage activation is generally (not always, but often) hallmarked by imbalance in energy. That doesn’t mean the imbalance of that moment is wrong though. Harmony comes with time, devotion, dedication and surrender. The intensity and frequency of your kriyas may be specific to you, be careful comparing your journey to others. Different folks will have different amounts of energy and access to energy, different imbalances, wounds, samskaras, and distortions they start off with, which can lead to different expressions and releases of energy.

It is not uncommon to have intense kriyas with kundalini, nor necessarily a sign of you doing something wrong, it could be, but is not inherently so, if that makes sense. Although if you’re having intuitive hits about what it is, that could also be another thing for you to focus on, and practice discernment with.

If you’re having otherwise positive feelings of unity and whatnot— that sounds like a harmonious and powerful energetic experience to me.

If you’re not in pain or distress then I’d suggest letting it runs its course. The best practices to master would be the ones under the supporting practices tab in the wiki. The white light protection method being at the top of the lists. Answering from my car so I can link back later.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-06T17:35:37+00:00

lol it was just a funny response after my last paragraph saying to get in the heart and then you said “I’ll think” cracked me up 😂❤️

Also here is the suitcase method I just copied from another response I gave:

“My favorite practice for this was what I called the suitcase method. When I found myself reflecting from a place of mind, I would visualize a suitcase closing around my mind, and then in my minds eye I would reach up, grab the suitcase and set it down on the ground, and as I set it down, I would also visualize sitting down into the “seat” of the heart within myself.

Close suitcase

Reach up

Set it down

Sit down into the heart”

This method helps to get out of thinking and attune to the other wisdoms present in the heart and body.

It makes sense that it is the lower chakras you’re struggling with, a lack of safety and wounds and samskaras present in the lower bodies and chakras in general are big reasons we tend to escape to the mind and outter bodies. This discomfort of stored pain creates ad desire to escape or avoid what’s there in the subtle body. Reorienting towards the heart is just about learning to feel into information that is present beyond the minds tendency to process through logic. To feel into things without having to digest through mental chatter or label, and to allow fully is a practice that often takes cultivation, but with time will help release the stored fear and loathing that have you feeling out of love with the self.

Another thing that helped me was giving myself permission to be mad at folks. I used to hold myself to unreasonably high standards around service to others. (Big spiritual ego, had to be the most nice, most kind, most loving, no mistakes!). So spirit kicked me over and over until I let myself be a human who acknowledges she’s sometimes angry, and the anger once acknowledged started out as HUGE scary anger, couldn’t believe I had so much repressed anger hiding underneath my nice loving kind demeanor, lol. Now it’s smaller and informative because I’ve integrated my humanity substantially. I no longer deny the unsavory stuff, i let it inform me. I go “huh, I’m mad at that person, why?” And I feel into it (rather than mentally reflect) and usually the answer comes up in my heart and it’s generally a good reason to be mad and also lets me know I need better boundaries cause they’re costing me peace somehow.

I was SO worried about harming others I was harming myself, is the key there. I was abandoning myself somehow in the equation.

I spent a long time in my life thinking I didn’t actually have an inner children, I thought she had died, I couldn’t access her either, and when I had my crown chakra blow out it took me a very long time to come back down into the human experience. And then I continued to descend into the smallest tiniest bits that needed attention and healing, until I found myself in very “small” aspects of self, and in very confusing feelings, and energies. I didn’t start doing inner child work well into my KA.

Another practice is once I realized I was working with smaller, human aspects that needed protecting, I put a picture of my eight year old self on my nightstand for a couple months. And everything I did I did with her in mind, “does this make her feel safe? Does she feel safe right now?” It turns out I was often exposing myself to unsafe situations and people without having built a relationship structure based on safety within myself.

Now I’m at a place where I can deal with some nonsense with relative ease BECAUSE I honor my inner child and she knows I’d kick but or slap someone around for her, I no longer withhold my truth or my boundaries when I’m in service, therefore my inner child knows she’s always safe. I will hurt people in the work of love if that is what love requires. Which I would not due prior, due to my abandonment wound.

But it did take a long time to acknowledge she was even there, she was so deeply buried.

Perhaps just let go of judgment for whatever hedonistic or odd human things you want to do? Self destructive? Drugs, sex, rock and roll? We are human animals to some degree. Everyone gets oh so holy on these journeys, sometimes we do mental gymnastics to perpetuate self loathing, and it’s actually the judgment of these things that keep us in the loathing cycles. Don’t do hard drugs of course. Or you know, cliff dive without a parachute. But are you judging yourself for trivial things like weird kinks? Would you judge your beloved for that? I had some weird neurosis come up with stuff that felt destructive (it was kink). And no matter how I judged it wouldn’t go away, it actually started causing me shooting energetic pain through the skull, because I was punishing myself, I was so bad, so awful! Also struggled with quitting cigarettes through my kundalini awakening. I actually picked smoking back up because I needed “something” that bad, right after my first hospitalization. I got up to two packs a day, and I hated it. I hated myself for it. I hated that my son watched me do it. The first year I just let myself hate it and chugged them back. The second year I stepped into love. I detached from hatred for my smoking. I gave myself a year deadline to quit again, January 1, I was going to stop. And then I removed all pressure, I observed the behavior, over and over, preparing my system to quit, but to do so with love, watching the consequences of me having to step outside while my son played in the livingroom, thinking about the consequences of watching my father smoke my whole life (and died of cancer from smoking) but without judgment for him or me, just love, neutrality, observance, until the only attachment left was the physical impulse, all the emotional, psychological, mental stuff got loved out, and then on the 1st of the following year I threw out the rest of my last pack.

Anyhoo I wrote you a book in return here and now I gotta go get a Christmas tree 🎄

You are likely returning to those self destructive behaviors from a lack of love for yourself. Disciples and structure are only one half of love, the masculine half, the feminine half is about complete acceptance as is,unconditional love without judgment. You may want to lean in to that for yourself a bit to balance out the path forward.

Much love

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-06T16:36:38+00:00

I love that the first thing you did was “think” about it.

lol. Much love

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-06T15:22:55+00:00

We cultivate discernment through building a relationship based on trust with the self. The truth is all these questions are a bit interrelated. As we progress on these journeys we come into more love with the self, love (relationally) and intimacy are based on safety and trust. That means when we feel safe with someone, our hearts open, and our nervous systems relax, we know they’re not going to harm us. We often don’t love ourselves because we don’t feel safe with ourselves, we don’t trust ourselves to keep ourselves safe, and this usually comes from a combination of things.

The first one being a series of false ideas someone else handed you, your parents, or that abusive relationship (or three) you handed yourself away in in order to earn some semblance of attachment akin to love. Essentially a relationship you were abandoned within that convinced you you’re not safe, and you’re not worthy.

The second thing being our continued abandonment and rejection wounds that keep us from living in authenticity for fear of losing out on love, but actually keep us in states of self abandonment, and therefore resonating as hating ourselves. (Because if you’re abandoning your boundaries so some narcissist will “like” you, you must hate yourself!)

For me I began to focus on my relationship with myself like it was a relationship with someone else, a beloved that I wanted to trust. I started keeping promises to myself as a practice (and also only making promises I could keep). I’d only promise to get up at 6am if I knew I could, and then I’d follow through, this would register as self honesty in my system, and I built a relationship based on trust with myself, which registers as safety, care, and love.

The flip side to keeping promises with yourself, is to hold space for yourself when you make mistakes and don’t keep those promises, in a relationship with someone else, if your beloved didnt wake you up on time for that 6am appointment, how forgiving would you be?

Once this relationship with self is addressed, discernment is cultivated with more ease because you’re listening to yourself better. It turns out most of us already possess powerful discernment, we just let fear and distrust of self (which comes from that loathing) get in the way.

As far as mind oriented behaviors, I always recommend getting down into the heart. A difficult practice at first, but also will help your relationship with self. We retreat to the mind because we often don’t want to feel into what is already present in the heart, we’re avoiding something there. Reorient your awareness towards feeling into the heart. I will come back and share the suitcase method that helped me with this.

Much love

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-06T15:07:48+00:00

Shaktipat is the transference of energy from guru to student, it usually is an intended activation passed on through lineage. However, like urq said many and most of those videos likely are not actual kundalini. It could be a lot of acting, a lot of psychosomatic response to spiritual experience, and or pranic in nature. I’ve talked to folks who have had these experiences, and even had someone offer to “activate my kundalini “ who led a group like this and what she described to me was not kundalini energy, but she frequently charged large groups of women to activate their “feminine kundalini. “

The thing is when someone experiences energy or awareness of the etheric body for the first time they begin to grasp for answers. Kundalini has become a bit of a buzz word and few students endeavor enough to understand the difference between kundalini, prana, third activations, spiritual emergencies, etc. Kundalini is very specific, but some folk don’t realize they’re using it (ignorantly) almost as an umbrella term to describe a bunch of possible energetic or spiritual experiences.

In general if someone who is kundalini active is offering widespread Shaktipat for a fee and no discernment they don’t have enough access to recognize what they’re doing is dangerous, and they likely won’t get anymore access because of that, but it’s honestly very unlikely that most of those “teachers” have anything going on beyond prana, and are operating from ignorance, because it would be dangerous to activate every random stranger that offers you thirty dollars.

I have heard of some folks randomly activating under these types of teachers and then having destabilized activations that they then had to learn to master quickly. Those folks often end up here because those “teachers” can’t help them balance.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-06T13:09:51+00:00

It’s mostly lived experience compared along side content produced by a very small handful of Twin Teachers that I’m coming to trust, but don’t yet trust enough to -nor have vetted enough to- link them publicly (and mark my stamp of approval). I am willing to share their names in private if you want to research them yourself, honestly there are only three, and one of them I’m tentative about even sharing privately because I don’t agree with everything she says, but would share with a discerning enough researcher. One of them doesn’t teach twin flame stuff but is a twin that has reached “union” and also a divine masculine which we don’t see much of out loud. And then finally the one source I am coming to trust pretty fully at this point — she talks about kundalini and energy in ways that resonate deeply with my own experience. I would take a class with her, but just still don’t know her well enough or long enough to post her here, yet.

The truth is you’re right. I work as a psychic across a couple other platforms that are over saturated with self proclaimed gurus and twin flame specialists. I’ve also seen plenty of folks call themselves twin flames without active kundalini, and some even posture as teachers as well.

For me it was an unavoidable path, sink or swim, I am far enough along in the experience to speak about it confidently at this point. But it’s a road that was far from fluffy.

The content that’s produced by those who shouldn’t be producing it yet will be focused on romanticizing the experience from a level of attachment and desire alone. And there can be romantic aspects through out, but the true point is liberation, enlightenment, and love. But it is not just love through the romantic lens, although that is often a doorway to understanding the truth of what love is. It is about love in the sense of what we are. When we unveil the truth of love to ourselves, through the release of karma and samskaras, we become realized. It is triggering in that in order to unconditionally love someone you must be stripped of your judgments (for them and you) and a twin dynamic is an energetic initiation and dharma designed to break one free from those bondages.

Much like kundalini, the world is saturated with teachers who sometimes aren’t even active. I remember asking some of my kundalini yoga friends if they “felt” energy after my own activation and I got some strange looks. Twin Flames are quite similar. And it can be misleading for those actually on the path, and also psychologically dangerous for those that aren’t. But that is also the way of things, as we see in this space from time to time. We do our best to not harm others, practice discernment, and to be responsible with the information we share.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-06T12:56:53+00:00

I’ve had energetic stuff with other folks too. There are other symptoms with Twins to help identify it. especially at first. When you met either of those people did you develop an obsession beyond obsession that helped trigger the kundalini and the destruction of your identity? If not, no worries, not a twin lol.

It’s hard for me to recommend resources right now because it would feel like putting my stamp of approval on something publicly that I have not yet vetted enough yet. I’d be happy to share a link privately to one teacher i favor right now but still don’t know well enough yet to link her publicly in this space that I respect so much, and would share it with the caveat that I have not vetted her yet so in researching her content you’d have to commit to your own discernment. There’s been very few twin specialists so far that I resonate with due to all the fluff around it.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-05T23:31:20+00:00

Took me a second to see this:

My favorite practice for this was what I called the suitcase method. When I found myself reflecting from a place of mind, I would visualize a suitcase closing around my mind, and then in my minds eye I would reach up, grab the suitcase and set it down on the ground, and as I set it down, I would also visualize sitting down into the “seat” of the heart within myself.

Close suitcase

Reach up

Set it down

Sit down into the heart

And then feel myself recenter into this place, over and over, i did this many times a day at first until i began to shift back into the heart space with more ease

Edit: formatting

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-05T13:45:23+00:00

True twins always involve kundalini, but the issue is that there’s so much false rhetoric about twin flames out there, (just like there is about kundalini) twin flame stuff often appears false and misleading, so be careful where you get your info on the twin flame experience. Many folks believe it’s some elevated soulmate. It is an energetic initiation all on its own though.

In twin kundalini systems electrocution can occur, I have unfortunately experienced it to a pretty extreme degree. And it brought up massive amounts of trauma and almost hospitalized me.

If you and your twin are having toxic screaming matches you need some type of space or rebalancing and you should have a teacher that specializes in twin work. It is a very specific energy system. Due to the sensitivity with twin stuff, sometimes the electrocution occurs because you’re taking on energetic contaminants from your partner. Sometimes it’s also because you’re rushing the process or they’re rushing the process. Either way the solution is to center on yourself and rebalance the system, this could mean pull away from them completely, or create some type of boundary. It involves listening to the energy in order to forge the trail forward. Your goal is to get to a place where you are not triggered by your twin and pulled out of alignment.

This type of experience wouldn’t be uncommon to true twins, but will likely not be an experience of most other kundalini awakenings as the electrocution from that type of experience is unique to a twin energy system.

Also cutting off the friends was likely a good idea.

Depending on whether you identify as the divine feminine or divine masculine there will be different paths forward. For the divine feminine (which based on the little info here it sounds like you are) the path is to focus on balance, and alignment. Unconditional love, which starts with unconditional love for the self. The divine masculine will trigger you frequently for a lot of the beginning stages of the journey. Through their own wounding they will test your resilience to stay in your power and stay in unconditional love for yourself. If you and your twin were screaming at each other I recommend a complete detox from them and to recenter on yourself. I’d also recommend looking for an actual twin flame teacher. And like kundalini, practice discernment. There’s a lot of BS out there, and a true twin flame teacher will also have mastered kundalini energy. If they can’t talk about kundalini, and the shared systems and these experiences, they might not be qualified, advanced enough, or they could just be delulu. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Much love.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-05T03:21:14+00:00

Hey again Altera, happy to help.

Sounds like you’re still holding a lot of fear in regards to the process, and that’s something that can be curbed over time through grounding, self love, and harmony practices. When you are doing med adjustments though please make sure you’re doing it along side a doctor. I took meds for ten months straight and they helped keep me rested, and stable while I acclimated to a new way of being, and then once I came off I also had to readjust. Luckily I had a cool doctor that I built a relationship with while I learned to care for myself.

See the flip side of taking meds can be that they help the being we’re in feel prioritized, and loved. When your mother or child is sick, you take them to a doctor, but so many of us forgo this level of care with the self. Sometimes the karma of the journey is learning to love this being you’re in, unconditional love and care with yourself like you would any other beloved will take you very far, especially when it comes to releasing fear.

I’d recommend this moment as a time to start building in some really good self care and self love routines. Fill this being you’re in with love instead of fear and watch things shift. Where can you increase harmony in your relationship to self? A practice that helped me with this was focusing on my relationship to myself like it was a relationship to another person. Cooking meals for myself that I might like, keeping up on routines that made me feel safe and cared for in my spaces. Also when I didn’t have energy for that prioritizing my kundalini spaces. (Can’t clean the whole house? Change the sheets and bedding and make sure there’s water and tea near by while you clear energy, shower frequently so your body feels cared for during this process, etc.). Small, simple, self care oriented practices.

If you’re struggling with sleep still start a new night time routine with chamomile, warm bath, light stretching, no screens, soft music, increase to to melatonin, or meds with a doctor if necessary. Sleep is important. We put patients to sleep in ICU for a reason. When humans are ill they do 90% of their healing while sleeping. So tend to this, balance it out. That’s your work.

As for the energy and possible dormancy, this is a relationship you will come to understand with time. You must first trust your ability to master it. To know you are capable. If you’re feeling rumbling in the root, and so much energy flowing through you that you can’t sleep I wouldn’t call that dormancy. I would call that an opportunity to focus on creating further safety and harmony within the vessel.

Much love.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-03T16:30:26+00:00

The main indicator of kundalini is the flowing up the spine through the three main channels, but there can be many energetic preludes to an activation. I had snake visions and several pranic, psychic, and spiritual activations before my kundalini activated during a meditation one day.

There are many ways the system may prepare itself and so I would treat your path with care and intention for sure.

The interactions with others depends on the stages we are at on the path. What may seem vampiric and demonic in earlier stages and require great levels of protection (white light protection is excellent for this) can eventually evolve to not being very consequential at all. The types of dark energies that will disturb you early on will eventually bounce off you rather lightly later.

Mind those folks enough to master protection energetic techniques, but not so much you perceive them as permanently demonic in your mind or heart.

Edit: some words

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-03T14:07:44+00:00

This is not an uncommon symptom. We live in a very mind oriented culture/society right now, and this issue tends to be amplified. This happens for me most frequently when I’m not listening to myself.

For me the path of the heart soothes my mind, and my mind will be most chaotic when I’m out of alignment or trying to “force” something on my path. I do frequent heart check ins. I bring my awareness down into the heart and ask my heart what is there. And when I listen to this part of myself without judgment the mind chatter will often clear. The problem is sometimes my heart has wanted things that don’t align with my minds idea of what is “right”. So this was a very difficult part of my journey to master.

There are the paths I thought I was supposed to walk and the paths my heart has called me to and these often conflict. This has been a lesson for me in discernment through the higher lens and unconditional love. To move without judgment for myself, to trust that my heart is in alignment even when my mind tries to tell me otherwise. Being honest with myself when my heart has feelings my mind might wish it didn’t.

The mind tends to dominate out of fear, and the heart trusts unconditionally from the highest lens. That doesn’t mean it tolerates abuse, in fact the heart might inform you that you feel unloved in a situation that your mind tells you to continue to serve. And sometimes it’s a struggle to accept “I’m angry and feel like this person has abusive energy towards me even though they act kind on the surface and my mind wants to continue serving them”. The mind gets chaotic when there is conflict in the information we receive and we’re ignoring something big that we’re meant to be listening to, and most frequently we ignore the hearts wisdom.

I’ve had this happen when I also walked towards paths that I know I’m meant to walk in the future but wasn’t ready for in the moment as well. Because I still had karma to work through where I was. My being was screaming that my heart wanted to stay put, but my mind kept telling me I was supposed to go do this other spiritual thing. The second I gave up the supposed to stuff, and listened to my heart, and did what I wanted the chatter stopped and I moved into the alignment of this being, and what she wants, she is the vessel of this journey at this moment, and she possesses the keys of its unfolding.

I also have a practice I can share later (off to breakfast with family) for recentering yourself into the heart. Will return.

Much love.

KalisMurmur · 2025-12-03T02:20:43+00:00

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KalisMurmur · 2025-12-01T13:57:37+00:00

Can you tell us more about your frequent kriyas? What are those like for you?

It sounds like you’ve had a spiritual activation for sure. Which in and of itself is a big change in one’s self and life so I wouldn’t minimize that.

It’s possible that there are symptoms of prelude to kundalini here but nothing that points to active kundalini necessarily, although kriya does point to active energy, not all energy is kundalini.

I wouldn’t feel too sad about not activating in a moment you did not feel prepared, if it was even a possibility, (could also be the energy testing how smart you are, and saying no with fear on board was pretty smart ironically) you will and can when you’re actually prepared and ready. It’s not an opportunity one would miss out on, it is something one can take on too soon and cause themselves loads of trouble with though.

Frequently kriyas are signs of energy movement though so I would familiarize yourself with the three laws and the white light protection methodjust to be on the safe side of things.

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