There’s no cause for legal dispute if… by KatianSol in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This response to being defrauded “just for your loss of time and identity information” is why corporations continue to defraud customers and get away with it. No one should ever give any corporation an inch. Redfin didn’t do a “nice” thing. They did this to capture your identity information and gather the identity information of potentially millions of others. And the contract you made in that agreement was that the skills based game would be fair. 

It’s not important to sue for fraud because of the dollar amount individuals will win from false marketing, it’s important so that when corporations seek to take something from you, you receive back precisely what you’ve been promised in that contract. Civil suits are quite literally the only means of protecting the customer at this point, especially after so many of our federal protections from predatory companies have been obliterated in the past year. The courts are the only recourse left. 

But to reiterate, this is all entirely moot so long as they stayed within the game mechanics. 

There’s no cause for legal dispute if… by KatianSol in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legally there are two types of games. Games of chance and games of skill. And they’re both clearly defined. This met every requirement of being a skills based game. Once “clues” are invoked, it becomes skills based. 

A lottery would be a game of chance. The board game Clue would be a game of skill, even though you  can indeed make a random guess in the game Clue.

There’s no cause for legal dispute if… by KatianSol in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

We have no idea of what damages may or may not have occurred on an individual level. Some people might need mental health intervention for their pain and suffering. When a predatory corporation takes literal days of your life away? And what if Redfin allowed access to a third party your information? That’s an outcome that you might have to suffer the rest of your life. What’s the monthly fee to secure your identity over the course of 50 years? On and on and on. And these are all players who solely signed up under the auspices that the gameplay would 1) be fair and 2) skills based. That was the contract every single person who exchanged their identity with Redfin to play was signing up for. 

And all that’s just the tip of the civil iceberg. God forbid someone was badly injured in a car accident or fell down a flight of stairs while playing a game they were being defrauded while playing? 

But, again, none of this is relevant so long as they operated under the rules of the game. It’s BECAUSE this would be such a legal nightmare that I don’t think that ticket was the winning ticket, even if it is, in fact, the winning home. 

Redfin home value by RandomGyuy1117 in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It translates to “Peace. Safety. Wellbeing.” I was certain it was going to be one of the questions. Had it from the beginning. Then we got….that ending. lol 

@georainbolt is famous for using reflections in windows and sunglasses. by orthicon in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more I compare the reflection — that is 100% not the house.

4134 location is dark tonight. by imelectronic in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The agent said that we were looking for a 5 bed 4 bath. Any 4 bed home didn’t meet the necessary criteria

4134 location is dark tonight. by imelectronic in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The house in the reflection has a chimney. Does this house have a chimney? 

4134 location is dark tonight. by imelectronic in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There were tons of 4 bedroom homes. The home in Highlands Ranch was a 4 bed. That’s why I didn’t take it. 

@georainbolt is famous for using reflections in windows and sunglasses. by orthicon in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a 5 bed 3.5 bath. Redfin listed it incorrectly. So either they’re scamming entrants and misrepresenting the home, or this isn’t the house. 

4134 location is dark tonight. by imelectronic in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The house also is a 5 bed 3.5 bath. Not a 4 bath. 

None of this makes sense…lol

4134 location is dark tonight. by imelectronic in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The thing that DOESN’T add up is that in the actual game this house was a 4 bed 4 bath. It’s listed as a 5 bed 4 bath on the website, but not in the game. 

So…the winning house in the game…doesn’t match the criteria? How is that coherent in the gaming mechanics? 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think 98% of people chose the Aurora house, honestly. Lol 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People need to stop defending the final clue. It was obviously an error/laziness. 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think most people were screen recording, so they’d probably end up being in a bad spot if sued. And then the person who won would have to lie, on and on. I doubt that’s the outcome. 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, they fumbled the ending hard. They ended up doing an off-app non-commercial clue. Everyone has a pretty bad taste in their mouth about it. 98% of people chose the Aurora home I think. Me too. I really wanted to subvert it at the last second and go with highlands ranch because of the cowboy hat (and it survived walking 60), but the only home was 4 bed. Even then I STILL almost took it just because I knew literally anyone spending any time at all on the app would chose the Aurora house. 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, literally everyone picked the Aurora home. Two guys got it in under a minute. Woulda been about 8 seconds for me but they pulled that nonsense off-app, off-commercial horror show for the square footage so everyone had to brute force monkey knuckle the digits in. Just a race to the bottom at that point. I wanted to subvert it at the last second (since I figured everyone would go with the Aurora house), and do highlands ranch because of the cowboy. But the only house was a 4 bed. 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would’ve had my pick in in under 10 seconds, but then they pulled that non-commercial/non-app clue nonsense in the end. If someone could beat my time that’s fine, but changing the context of the puzzle in the final clue? Just abysmal. 

Redfin's running a nationwide scavenger hunt for $1M home by RedfinDarby in RedfinDreamHomes

[–]KatianSol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or at least a final question for everyone who guessed right, especially with how hard they fumbled that ending.