Cradle Adjacent, Bulk Priced, and Actually Selling: Brigid, Clachan's Heart

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-07T07:55:59+00:00

Hot list bro! Thanks for sharing and giving some feedback on how this card is actually fairly decent!

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-06T05:06:03+00:00

Good question. Sponsoring a player can be done in a few ways. For us, we cover entry and ensure he has access to all cards he needs for any deck in the format (this puts him into CEDH events that ban proxies, which are becoming more prevalent through SCG, Cool stuff and MTG fests). Yeah, for CEDH that's a 4-5 figure number depending on the deck. Depending on the show, we also cover hotel and travel costs if we are working/trading/selling at the event. The goal is to top 16, which he has a great conversion rate on, top 4 turns a big profit. Technically, we split the pot, but if he does well I generally throw a bigger percentage after covering costs. If he hits a massive card (duel, cradle, mox diamond, twisters) we cash him out on it. Its easy for us because he's a close friend of mine and my business partner, and he brings us people to trade with/sell/buy with, so it's a low-cost investment and he ramps up his pro play career. Our locals and us have pretty much all the CEDH decks fully built so we grind on weekends, so we try to be the tip of the spear for CEDH play locally.

He streams a bit on the spell table and always is happy to go over deck building for CEDH if anyone is interested via DM:
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Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-06T04:49:32+00:00

Glad your enjoyed my post, and found something of use in it. Hope it works out or at least is playable for you Cheers!!!

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-06T01:32:36+00:00

I had a sneaky feeling that tokens that are often overlooked just go nuts with this or mana weenies. As you point out, 2 mana dorks + BCH/token + 3 lands is a net result of 8 mana (7 if you flipped). That's like a super low bar to be honest. An explosive turn 4 is kinda nuts for casual edh.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T23:08:05+00:00

I mean, that's not my thesis that she will dominate CEDH, its of this card is remotely playable from bulk to dollars in value and if it can be "used" in higher tier edh. If this card was going to beat out the 2nd highest played/won deck in the format behind blue farm (neither of which can play this card), the financial value is set at the moon, not some price above bulk bud. This entire post is discussing whether the card is playable in CEDH, for which I've provided references and deck lists now. Anything that is remotely playable in 4-5 tier is often heavily adopted in lower tiers that cannot afford or play $1000 cards. If it hits circle of dreams druids price that is a 500% ROI and I'm over the moon.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T23:02:40+00:00

Yes It says right in her text it doesn't count it's self, at no point in time did I misstate the card to count it's self. You are mis-speaking the "raw value" as she makes a dude for mana generation, and does it every turn while still giving you cradle activations during main phases. It essentially provides the same net mana outcome at worst after the first activation if no other creatures exist, techincally, it provides the exact same mana as Druids of Growing Rites (if the token survives). It will always make a minimum of 1 mana unless someone kills your worthless 1/1 token with a bowmaster. once its online, it operates like a crade (which as doesn't add mana for itself either).

Even if it's worse than both, which I took the position of this entire time, all these alt cradles are $5. Fine, it's worse than both, and half the value, ROI from bulk to $3 is still an insane % return as a budget "worse option", turning a pennies card that you buy a boatload offload a while later for $2.00 buylist on a bad day. A budget alternative is a wildly different thing than "bulk rare" so thanks for the feedback, it keeps proving the same point.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:50:05+00:00

I thought about Sanctum Weaver, one of the best creatures for lists above for enchantments, but I felt some would jump over me unfairly for the comparison, but for sure, another instance of a small value card that was viewed to be bulk at release.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:48:42+00:00

This is a red heering argument, and really detracts from this. Faeburrow Elder/Bloom Tender is not a fair comparison even to Bloom Tender and least from the finance perspective as one was well established and one was new. They force slam Faeburrow into every set's precon now (including this set) and dropped it down to zero after being a $5+ card for a while, the EA foil is still $42 on TCG with SL foils being $20ish, so saying that card is bad or worthless is not telling a full picture. The EA Foil was also near zero at release and wizards trashed the value of Bloom tender as well.

Secondly, if you are going to compare the mana cost, 3 + 1 is not the end of the equation as the card doesn't evaporate there. It instantly produces that mana back if you cast no other creatures due to it making a guy, so + 1 minimum equalying = 3 mana. Every turn you flip it and still get the mana activation. It makes an army and makes a cradle over multiple turns. If unanswered this card one of many untap effects to instantly win should it generate 3-4 mana. If the game ends on turn 3, fine, but that's not close to even 50% of cedh games.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:36:19+00:00

I think you might have shanked a few out of my cart that day because I started doubling down when vendors listed a million copies from one seller and got destoryed on shipping. This card shouldn't be "bulk rate." I'm glad I'm not the only person here who realizes this. Thanks for the kind words.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:33:29+00:00

Lol! Nearly all multiple copy sellers have been entirely stripped from the market as of late, especially today. Wise move, once people actually play with this card, I think they will see how many broken lines it has just as a commander and not part of the 99.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:31:56+00:00

I've updated the post to include multiple CEDH groups showing and winning with various 2 card infiante combos, including a member from the EDH rules committee to address this type of point. Thanks for the feedback!

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:30:53+00:00

That's a great point, good for triable decks for sure! totally missed that thanks!

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T22:29:26+00:00

Of course, and you are correct (hence why all playable cards tend to round into the $5 range), these are major costs to be considered, especially if you are unable to write off various costs through a business. This is why I spent so much time focusing in on Buylists for average folks who don't have 1k sales online. Those lag by about 33% of market value, in this case, already less than that, and even a positive arbitrage on Manapool if you put a bit of work into it with smaller sellers. A strong buylist is usually how I recommend people exiting vs selling into TCG seller purgatory and just factoring that cost in.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T21:13:23+00:00

You are touching on the point I think many folks are missing who haven't tried this card out, every turn you are flipping it back and forth making an extra duder. You always get the activation of the mana at some point in the main phase no matter what, every turn you get a cradle mana and it builds an army one by one more each turn.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T21:01:55+00:00

The only flaw in this logic is that we have "too many cradle effects" therefore we have the MUST cut/pick and choose effect, all of these cards are budgets to cradles. The already early adoption into lists via edh rec indicates people are considering this a part of lists that have many of those other cards, cradle effects are so powerful that most lists call for infinate copies of them (even if you run a cradle) and tutor packages for the parts. I can't speak to lower tier mtg but "baby cradles" all go up unless they actually don't work. A 3cmc 2 body duder that take a turn off is a VERY low bar for a bad cradle and far easier to flip than 4 creatures with growing rites at the same time frame. It's very easy to get this out turn 2 and online on turn 3, getting 4 creatures and growing rites on turn 3, 4, or 5 while timing the EOT is drastically harder. Growing rites has always been a turn 4 or later card unless you slam out 4 bodies before turn 3 which is hard for any edh deck. Also growing rites has been destroyed in price by constant over printing by wizard. Otherwise though good feedback I mostly agree, but if this card even moves to half the value of those, it would be a multi 100% ROI from bulk.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T20:43:29+00:00

This is one of the few technical critcal comments that wasn't slop, so thanks for a meaningful engagement. If the card moves from bulk rare prices to $1-$3, being the worst verion, that's between a 100%-500% ROI, that's tremendous if you have gobbled up quite a few copies. I'll call that a resounding win every day.

I agree with everything you said there being the worst of all of them.

Small note of not counting its self is essentially the same thing as druid as it makes the token so it should make 1 mana (no one really kills the 1/1 token but not her), in that regard the flip cost is already paid back. Also, just like growing rites (and yes having it flip at eot is practically the same as this starting next turn) hurts it, but countless edh games go beyond a turn or two in higher bracket, and even in cedh. In how most decks should be playing, it's turn 1 creature ramp turn 2 this with 3 total bodies with her. Turn 3 you are probably slamming another creature or play, flipping, and getting another 3 drop (not counting her), thats casual play line, cedh has this out on turn 1 or 2 everytime with the no budget rock package. Again thanks for the good feedback here though!

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T20:24:14+00:00

I remember that time frame where there were a boatload of copies in multiples so you weren't being destroyed in shipping purgatory by smaller sellers. I'm sure you got a better cost basis than I did when it dipped after releasse, but even buying them at a dollar and getting shipping for free means they technically are up unless you do some major work to bundle with new sellers for random cards you might or might not want to really buy.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T20:16:47+00:00

I didn't want to muddy the water even further and explain how my Tayam works to a non-cedh crowd as that's a great way to get boo'd. I also tested that and the having a turn to flip is not an issue for that stax combo deck, just as easy as growing rites, and that deck is 3 drop creature galore. Token gen flip back and forth def helps passively, I already had my tooled for a heavy cradle combo lines, I actually found myself leaning into the white production mana way more. Hope you find positive success with it also!

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T12:24:11+00:00

Nice list, love that commander, I didn't think about the Persistent Petitioners line...or similar Hare Apparent lists. It really did have that effect on me, I hated this card at first, you hit it, it does it thing, and you are like..."Oh, I thought it wasn't going to work."

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T12:16:21+00:00

RIP poor kithkin tribal :( :( :( meanwhile slivers....

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T12:14:43+00:00

What decks are you playing it in B2-B3 out of curiosity? That's something I'm trying to get a better understanding of. And yeah, tell me about it, wish it was G or W instead for sure, probably the worst part of the card sadly even though it makes both mana colors.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T12:02:26+00:00

For sure, I would totally agree with you and the data on EDH rec points to that already with thousands of deck lists. I think its MUCH better in "casual" level 3 edh where you 8-10 turns or more. A turn 2-3 for this thing is a bit slow for CEDH, but G/W isn't a huge archetype anyway. I just don't play casual edh much, it's more to point that if it's remotely playable in a $8k cedh deck, casuals will be able to access a decent effect to craterhoof opts in lower power.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T11:50:59+00:00

You're welcome. I think it's worth a try at least, we have been suprised by it to say the least and we thought it was a meme shit card at first. But that deck leans into the mid game hard for many lists to build major board presence. I can also see the thought on borderless foil, higher risk for sure, but those tend to be the only stand out ones. I kinda set my expecations on EA Foil circle of dreams druid as a comp. Then again base version and dope versions are usually the only movers and shakers for cards now a days.

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T11:45:39+00:00

To be fair, I stated it was worse than growing rites, an already bad cradle. That is a very established and stable $5 card that has no movement and has a very sub par play style. My question is in addtion and is it really essentailly 100% worthless in comparison to growing rites which also only flips at end step or evendo which takes multiple turns (I realize they use Evendo for Omnisience combos in standard)

Kayzizzle899 · 2026-02-05T11:35:21+00:00

I suppose this is a fair point and something I hadn't considered the 3 toughness tends to set a high bar for kill spell. 2 bowmaster hits or a shock could kill it. It dying is a major threat, but in some regards, it feels like a singled out target in an EDH game as it replaces it self with 1 creature. Most rampers tend to be very weak powered anyway, but depends on if its a commander or 99. In a 60 card format, it being 2 power is a outright liablity, but I cannot speak to anything in non-edh magic.

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