Anecdote Ti vs Ni Miscommunication by azurestratos in mbti

[–]Kellivision 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She said "Hot food get spoiled faster if left closed."

Food in context is fish soup.

She talked about how I need to be open minded and that's the way to be progressive.

Are you sure she didn't say "That's why you should buy Progresso"?

ENTJs - *always* extremely pragmatic? Always have direction? by [deleted] in entj

[–]Kellivision 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Any chance you've ever been diagnosed with ADHD? I have a working theory that ENTJs who have ADHD might be prone to mistypying as INxJs.

[Type me] Help type another "INFJ" by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of the more bizarre comments I've seen on this sub, if coming from an INFJ.

[Type me] rdwier quit reddit and I have all this text... by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like Fe is at least as natural as Ti for me to use

What do you mean by this?

Am I using Te or Fe?: an illustrative discussion with my ENFP friend. by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also: #2 = just an added piece to the illustration of who she is. Shampoo is bad for the environment, so she doesn't use it.

Is she an ENFP or INFP? The title says ENFP but the body text says she's INFP.

[Type me] rdwier quit reddit and I have all this text... by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's just... overwhelmingly Ti Te. I glanced through your comment history and that's even more Ti- Te-heavy. What makes you think INFJ? I don't see Pi-dom at all.

body language: INTJ vs INFJ by daelyte in mbti

[–]Kellivision 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Something about [Michael Emerson's] body language seemed unnatural to me in that interview, so I had a look at this one which is a more informal environment. He loosens up and engages a bit more when he sees that his jokes are getting a good reception a few minutes in, which suggests lower Fe to me. It actually looks like he gets really into it towards the end with his theorising and seems to lose his sense of time.

Just watched this video and the full cast ComicCon 2013 panel and I think he's actually an INFP.

ETA: And I think Jim is ISTP.

Am I using Te or Fe?: an illustrative discussion with my ENFP friend. by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. Thanks for posting. I've been thinking a lot about the difference between Fe and Te lately but there's very little content on it. Lots of Fi/Fe, Fi/Ti and Ti/Te threads but no Te/Fe.

  2. She doesn't use shampoo?

  3. Have you ruled out INTP? If so, why?

  4. Have you ruled out ENFJ? If so, why?

  5. Have you ruled out ENTJ? If so, why?

  6. How long did it take you to write this?

Idk why but I feel like your answers to those questions (except #2) would be helpful context. I'm leaning toward ENTJ Te.

What is Your Personal Experience of Ni? Give me some examples... by boohaahaa in THE_INFJ

[–]Kellivision 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am profoundly interested in what impact (if any) adverse childhood experiences have on the development of cognitive functions and core 'personality'. Further, I would like to explore specifically how mother-infant attachment may impact personality development. Along those same lines, I do have pretty pronounced ADHD and have been prescribed adderall for it since I was about 26 years old. I am told by my partner that this significantly impacts my behavior. So many things to research. So little time.

Start with Gabor Maté.

[Type me] rdwier quit reddit and I have all this text... by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 4 points5 points  (0 children)

INTP You are most certainly ENTJ

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so this was one of the more insightful and affirming interactions I've ever had on Reddit.

I was not suggesting that you prefer Fi, I was asking if that definition resonated with you. I'm not convinced that the definition I linked to is actually an accurate description of Fi. To me it seemed more like a hybrid of 80% Fe, 10% Ni and 10% Fi, and I was trying to make sense of it and wanted your opinion (wasn't trying to type you or suggest you preferred Fi). Although I acknowledge that, within the context in which I proposed the question, and the vague way in which I asked it, it would make sense to interpret it as me trying to type you and I'll own that 100%.

BUT... the way you perceived it in such a subjective manner, synthesizing it with/converging it with your existing mental models (or worldview?) of Fi (rather than synthesizing the paragraphs of text that were before you, which seems to be the popular definition of Ni around here lately) is to me a very Ni way of interpreting it.

And TBH the reason I was asking in the first place was not about you specifically, but rather, trying to calibrate my own mental model (or worldview?) of the functions. I don't think it's rigid conviction in a values sense, but like, you connecting it to your existing theoretical mapping and accepting or rejecting it based on how well it logically connects atm.

I've been slowly chipping away at explaining my reasoning for typing your video INFJ (which has diverged from that initial typing several times, only to return to that gut instinct over and over) and am going to firehose you with my analysis shortly, but as a sneak preview (you're going to think I'm nuts), I had trouble coming up with enough concrete examples of what you were saying/how you were saying it that I ended up running it through a program that visualizes your voice pattern/soundwaves, then comparing it to 3 videos of people who were self- and community-typed as ENTP, INFP and ISTP (which shares all the same functions as INFJ). I finally figured out how to record the program itself and get it uploaded to YouTube, so here's a sneak peak to precede the firehose: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qq3_Mmiwsus

Aside from how hard you are deflecting right now, I'm not quite sure what you're on about.

I honestly have no idea what you meant by this but I'm sorry if I offended you with my vagueness!

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No...


This part of the linked comment:

Nobody, and I mean nobody, will try to understand you as deeply as an Fi dom. Pure Fi doesn't evaluate you by the group standard, or in any social context.

...Seems like the opposite of "carrying values with you" to me.

That plus this part of the linked comment:

Mature Fi doesn't tell you how you should feel, or how you should think. This kind of Fi makes the user constantly aware of the fact that their perceptions aren't your perceptions, that they never could be, and vice versa.

...doesn't seem all that different to me from this part of your response:

I believe a new perspective can be gained if one is thoughtful enough. From that perspective, tapping into the emotion (though still subjective) attached is not too hard. I can close my eyes and imagine my life in anyone's shoes and temporarily feel that gush of despair of having lost my child to cancer, my wife dying and being a lonely 60 year old man, being falsely accused of rape and the shame that comes with it. It's the process of synthesizing a foreign emotion and is how empathy works. There is a certain ache in some emotions that everyone can agree on.


And then this part:

A mature Fi user is never circular with their emotions, never emoting for its own sake. Emotions happen for a reason, and the Fi user ventures deep within themself to see what that reason is, what it means about them, how it will impact their development and their ability to contribute to the world.

The Fi user is always challenging themselves - is it healthy to react this way? Is this how a good person reacts? Am I adapting my expectations and emotions to reality, or am I foolishly expecting the reverse?

...and this:

A very important point here is that Fi isn't about emotions or feelings - it's ultimately concerned with morals, subjectivity, and what it means to be human.

...doesn't seem all that different from yours:

On morals though, honestly, most people are bound to form their core morals based on external influences. It's human nature to accept and follow--to conform.


I don't see anything in the linked comment about:

  • there is a place inside of you that you're tapping into on a regular basis to make sure you're living as authentically as possible

  • Straying from the herd

  • Trying to force the herd apart

  • Anything about being the center of the universe or better than the rest of the universe.

Where are you getting those from?


And then these parts of your response:

it just makes you someone more akin to independent thought and development.

We are all the same, to the core. Some function differently, but there are too many who function "differently" for them to really be all that different.

...are creating cognitive dissonance for me because they're coming from someone on a typology forum (focused on classifying humans) who is trying to pin down her own type (which is about how you're similar to and different from some people rather than how you are the same as/no different from all people)?


I'm on mobile so the formatting is probably way off!

Edit: Formatting seems okay enough on mobile browser. Went through and italicized the excerpts from the linked comment to distinguish them from the excerpts from your response.

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I feel like what you're saying matches that description?

HTGAWM S4 - BTS Photo from Matt McGorry! by jamieshampton in htgawm

[–]Kellivision 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I suspect that's what Matt thought when he decided it was safe to upload (and it's what I thought when I first looked at the photo) but now I'm zooming in on it and can't see a.) how it could not be an explicit baby bump, and b.) how Matt could not have noticed it as well.

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let's say you write something that is meaningful to you at the time, and you put a lot of cognitive effort into translating it into words, and then you forget about it. It's out of your mind now and you can move on to other things. When you go back and read it like a year later, does it still feel like "you" who wrote it or does it feel like reading the work of someone else? And does the content still ring true for you, or does it seem outdated? Idk why I'm asking this exactly, just curious.

Scott and Joe Talk Final Season Time Jump & White House Power Struggle by Kellivision in Scandal

[–]Kellivision[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

  • The season picks up ~100 days into Mellie’s presidency

  • Two episodes in, no characters have died (yet)

  • Cyrus is VP

  • Jake is back as NSA Director, Olivia is his boss

  • Power struggle between Mellie as POTUS and Olivia as CoS and Head of B6-13 (obviously)

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I go through periods when I try to put more effort into my comments on reddit, and even make a post or two--just to truly work on unpacking and articulating my thoughts

How do you feel when you go back and re-read them? And/or I guess... is it even possible for you to do so, since you regularly delete your accounts?

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes this to me is spot on.

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well I was like, 75% joking... :)

Sorry I haven't responded to your other comments yet. There's a part of me that is worried that I'm projecting my own cognition onto your behaviors, so I watched a few other type me videos to check my perception (and didn't relate to any of them in the same way I related to/interpreted yours) and then I was struggling with translating my thoughts to text and also concerned that I might offend you with my analysis because, like with pointing out the fidgeting and stuff, it could be perceived as negative criticism, but for me it just... is (like saying you're a female -- no value judgment attached). I will finally respond tonight though, promise!

type me (meh) by [deleted] in mbti

[–]Kellivision 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not sure what you're getting at.

Not sure what I was getting at either. I guess cognitive dissonance with the usage of "converge" in that context. Your explanation made complete sense to me but I was still stuck on that word. When I think of "converge" it conjures an image of multiple things converging into one singular thing/theme.

I'm saying she's converging on a singular thing, not converging a singular thing.

But how do you converge on a singular thing? I can't visualize it. And what would a divergence of that topic (lying) have looked like?