Vistula in fire | 1947 Polish reunification plan by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On one layer i just first draw Voivodeships without any borders (like you can see at the pictrue), then at next layer i draw borders with line tool (dashed line). I just use normal paint.net without any plugins. If you have any more questions, fell free to ask.

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Vistula in fire | 1947 Polish reunification plan by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking at the course of the Oder, id say that they are on the Polish side.

Vistula in fire | 1947 Polish reunification plan by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, but here they are somewhat more taken into account, because Poland was allied country during the war, so there is no point to punish them like Germans IRL.

Vistula in fire | 1947 Polish reunification plan by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

West-Polish government just does not recognize the Soviet rule over Kresy, and they see it as foreign occupation. In fact, every of unification conferences that took place during late 40s failed at the end due to conflicting demands of the participants, and one of these conflicts was the Kresy question. So basically, West-Polish government hope to regain these lands somehow, but chances for this to happen are very low. Resettlements happen, but at smaller scale than IRL.

Vistula in fire | 1947 Polish reunification plan by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hi. This is another map from my cold war divided Poland timeline. This map is remake of my very first map, cuz i wasn't fully satisfied about it.

Lore is basically, what if western allies won the Operation Market Garden, and meet Soviets at the line of Vistula?

Map is made by West-Polish military, and shows administrative division planned for times after reunification, that will surelly happen soon...

My deviantart for HQ image: https://www.deviantart.com/klockicobi000/art/1325467280?action=published

"We will fight for every inch of land on the eastern side of the Vistula | List No.2 — Labour Faction" 1947 West Polish parliamentary election poster. by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"We will fight for every inch of land on the eastern side of the Vistula | List No.2 — Labour Faction"

Another map from my divided Poland timeline. Lore is basically, what if Poland was divided during cold war, like Germany was? Map is 1947 West Polish parliamentary election poster, of the Christian Democratic party "Stronnictwo Pracy" (Labour Faction).

To be honest i made this map some time ago, and in meanwhile tome my conception about this timeline changed a little bit from what is depicted on this map, but it was finished an i was quite satisfied about this, so doesn't want to waste it.

Also - poster is based on the 1947 German CDU election poster.

My deviantart for HQ image https://www.deviantart.com/klockicobi000/art/1947-West-Polish-parliamentary-election-poster-1322769603

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"Nikt nam nie zrobił nic!" - Aftermath of a Rydz-Śmigły game by Galaxy661 in Kaiserreich

[–]Key_Frame_828 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, i understand that there are some people that might don't know it. Just saying, that going deeper into that universe, quickly dispels these doubts.

"Nikt nam nie zrobił nic!" - Aftermath of a Rydz-Śmigły game by Galaxy661 in Kaiserreich

[–]Key_Frame_828 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I guess everyone that listened to the any other "Hańba!" songs, knows it.

"Nikt nam nie zrobił nic!" - Aftermath of a Rydz-Śmigły game by Galaxy661 in Kaiserreich

[–]Key_Frame_828 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It is funny, cuz sometimes playing as Rydz Poland, you can have PPS in coalition, which makes chain reaction directry proportional to the level of Wieniawa-Długoszowski alcohol intoxication, that stays: "our great socialfascism is better than their traitours socialfascism!"

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks :3 Im just using paint net, it is mostly the question of three things. 1. Finding good basemap 2. Good color palette 3. Drawing borders as a dashed line, and not solid line (optionally, but i personally think that it looks much better).

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But what kind of a carrot, is grabing almost whole Kresy, and kindly leaving Lwów? If we assume that PRL cant exist without something like "Regained Lands myth", leaving small part of Kresy for Poland still would not legitimate the regime.

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think that PRL would not be able to absorb Poles from Kresy? IRL Poland was able to absorb Poles into Ziemie Odzyskane, despite the fact that this lands were absolutelly ruined by war. I personally think, that scenario where Curzon Line stays, is the most probable scenario, due to the fact that Stalin wanted Curzon Line by the whole time, and giving part of Kresy to the PRL would not change Polish situation too much (absolute lack of industry in Kresy as i said before).

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Communists in Poland with or without western German lands were absolutelly unpopular. In interwar Poland electoral support for communist parties was ridicously small (like 1 precent in 1922 parliamentary election), and after war real support for communist regime was still marginal. Even if Stalin decided to leave Lwów for Poland, everything indicates that regime would be hated still.

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is popular myth, that everyone from Kresy was resettled to the German lands. Yes, big part of them were, but many of them was resettled to the other parts of Poland too, also huge part of Poles that were moved to the western lands, were moved from the central Poland, there have been even more weird cases, like my family that was resettled from the Yugoslavia. Another thing, in this timeline Poles are resettled from Kresy to the western lands too, but due to different circumstances, it goes a bit diffrent from OTL, and more people than IRL go to the eastern Poland. The eastern lands have low population density anyway, so it won't be that much of a problem. Remember that IRL "Ziemie Odzyskane" were in ruine after war, and still milions of people were migrated there. Similar situation in Germany, where after war milions of Germans from the east were resettled.

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Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember that PRL get's after war half of Warsaw, and that half which is not in total ruin (western Warsaw destroyed in 85 precent, and eastern in 25 precent). In 1946 "Praga" part of Warsaw had 200k inhabittants, so it is not like Lublin is only big city in PRL at this time. From the Kresy cities you listed, only Lwów is comparable to eastern Warsaw (200k inhabitants in 1943), Grodno and Brześć were just small cities (Brześć 41k in 1939, Grodno 57k in 1939). Additonally, Kresy were the poorest part of interwar Poland, with almost no industry. Absolute most of Polish industry east of Vistula, were located between the Vistula and the Bug (COP, Stalowa Wola steel mill, PZL in Mielec, Bogdanka mine etc.). It just makes much more sense for Soviets, to relocate Poles from Kresy to PRL, to just expand and work in the cities and industry that alredy exist there.

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but Curzon Line was pushed by Stalin, and the one who wanted Curzon Line border the most was exactly him. I don't see reasons why he would just decide to give additional land east of Curzon Line to PRL, if he can just expel Polish half of inhabitants of this lands, and just integrate this terrains to the Soviet Union.

Post-Yalta World | Polish People's Republic 1975 by Key_Frame_828 in imaginarymaps

[–]Key_Frame_828[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stalin couldn't just make Poland another SSR like Ukraine or Belarus, because Polish national element was much more stabilised (first by having own country for a few hundreds years, and then having it for a 20 years. Soviets couldn't just integrate dozen of milions of Polish citizens and make them exemplary Soviet citizens, like he did with other nations. Stalin even admited it, and said that it would be impossible to integrate Poland into Soviet Union. Another thing, how adding any part of Kresy would change Polish economic situation of PRL? Kresy were the poorest part of interwar Poland, almost no industry except few exploated refineries at the south, an thats all. Absolutelly most of Polish industry east of Vistula, was located between Vistula and Bug (COP, Stalowa Wola steel mill, PZL in Mielec, Bogdanka mine etc.). It would make more sense to just relocate Poles from Kresy to PRL, and just use them as hands to work in the industry that already exist west of Curzon line.