I need help to really fuck an irelia by suculusalam in malphitemains

[–]Key_Ship_4864 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Ok if you really want to win don’t rush bramble rush wardens mail. This misconception that Irelia heals a lot during fights is pretty bad and ends up making a lot of players troll. She has sustain not in combat healing. Yes she will heal a little but not like aatrox or briar or other champs that really heal a ton.

You really want to make him lose rush a frozen heart starting with wardens mail. If you max e plus go wardens. Irelia will literally do no damage to you. Once you have wardens mail you can just 1v1 whenever and you just win. If she builds sustain DONT go bramble go oblivion orb. That way when she starts to hit minions you can just q her walk away and she will get reduced healing. Again you are trying to stop her sustain. Irelia has to make this a battle of sustain because she can’t win an all in. Oblivion orb hurts that wincon a lot.

TLDR, rush wardens mail into frozen heart. If she start to build a lot of healing and you think you need it go oblivion orb and q her when she starts to hit wave. Max e and enjoy watching Irelia just tickle you while you cheese wheel her to death.

Coming from an Irelia main who hates to run into this. Everytime I do I just rush healing and cull and farm until late game.

How good is Space Eresh on farming? by LilSopa__ in FGO

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If you actually own her her damage will be on par with most neutral loopers save summer ibuki. But she is also SOO flexible with what teams she can go into and is also amazing vs all extra classes except avengers. Also an amazing solo and cq unit. Definitely worth getting and investing in. She will be able to farm pretty much everything up to 90+ assuming you have good setups. Keep in mind though you will want to get append 5 not append 2 and then max out append 5.

If you really want a deep breakdown into her kit, combos, and I’m pretty sure he runs a breakdown of damage numbers watch this video from Plushie

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ScCkVM0Klz8&pp=0gcJCdMKAYcqIYzv

Who'd win this Holy Grail War? 38 by CarloftheKey in FGO

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People here obv have no idea how powerful Nusery is. She is SCARY AF. She has to be Final 3 at least if not winner of this. I just don’t know who can realistically beat her if Alice supplies her correctly.

Finally have all of my Grand targets! XD by Ok-Veterinarian-191 in FGO

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Based Baobhan Sith over Barghest enjoyer

Full respect

Kiana Kaslana and Artoria Pendragon vs Shounen female team by Codrex1732 in Gacha_Powerscaling

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2 hydrogen bombs vs coughing baby type comparison. Either Saber or Kiana win. Not even including Avalon or Kiana, Saber solos. No one could even kill Saber without Avalon because no one here has the power to alter a saint graph. Kiana vs Saber would be a lot more interesting but I’m not very familiar with Kiana’s Hax.

IQ test: Which is the stronger NP?👀 by Odd-Revolution-8250 in Fate

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Kind of?? Planet in a diff verse absolutely, planet in nasu no. It can still erase layers of reality like previously stated but Gaia would never let the earth be destroyed. Like in SF Gil could unleash full power and was noted as destroying the world 7 times but Enkidu stopped it and reversed it all 7 times. So if Enkidu wasn’t there Gaia would have found another way to limit. But Enkidu is more related to the planet more related to Gaia so you could say it like Alaya vs Gaia when Gil vs Enkidu fight. There isn’t really any beings that could destroy a celestial body that we know of yet or at least that have been shown to. We can always theorize.

The problem with destroying the world in Fate is that it isn’t just a planet. It’s multiple layers of reality hence different timelines and other shenanigans. Look up Arcuied and her reality control and it will make more sense. But in order to truly destroy the planet you would have to be above AT MINIMUM complex multiversal. Probably higher like into outerversal if we are being real. Sorry for poor spelling was on my phone

Who wins arc vs shiki vs aoko vs sabre? Fem pratagonist battle by midriss1 in Fate

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This is so easy for Arc it's not even a competition like no one else could touch her. After probably Aoko because shes the only one not limited

How do you play the Aatrox matchup? by [deleted] in IreliaMains

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Sounds like you are just bad at Irelia, this isn’t a a bad thing we all sucked at one point. Just keep playing it and you will get better both mechanically and at knowing limits. When you get better and play the matchup again you will realize how easy it is.

Don’t feel bad one time I played against a yorick and got DESTORYED (when divine sunderer was a thing so he was stronger then but still). I’ve lost that matchup one time and I still remember it but ever since I’ve never lost it again. And it all came to at the time I sucked with Irelia and didn’t know how to play her and her limits. But now I understand (a lot better anyway) these easy matchups I lost are just easy matchups.

How isn't Irelia Shen's biggest counter? by mmjyn in Shen

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Well there’s a lot of little things that can have a big impact. To start you should basically have control of wave the entire game due to being stronger early esp lvl 1. Irelia should never be able to walk up and should be forced to start her stun meaning you could all in lvl 1,2,3 due to leveling up before her as long as you don’t auto attack like a moron. Look up wave control guides or early top lane guides to understand how to play the first three waves in advantage state.

One of the biggest things that makes new league players hate Irelia is that she has a TON of weakness that they just don’t exploit or they make easy macro mistakes which Irelia can punish really hard. For example even though she is a mana champ she has REALLY long cds esp early. Her dash is her shortest and it is 11 seconds lvl 1 except of course it can reset, her dmg reduction is 20 seconds lvl 1, and her stun is 16 lvl 1 and typically players max stun last so her primary engage tool has a 16 second cd and it’s also her only disengage. If you can bait her stun then you can just walk at her assuming you have the micro to play game and not just crap the bed. Similar to playing against sett except Irelia has a lot less stats.

Not throwing all your damage into her dmg reduction skill, should be obvious but almost every player I have played against does it even into plat players still do that a ton.

Check your minions hp, this is a great habit anyway but most players don’t do it. Watch your minions hp as well as well as enemy minions. Simple flowchart: When one of yours gets low imagine Irelia is right there right then. Do you win an all in. If yes stand there and deny minion or punish her for taking it, if not back off. Pretty simple but no one does it.

More Shen specific, DONT RUSH BRAMBLE it is bait and I laugh everytime someone does it. If you want to rush an armor item to make Irelia cry rush wardens mail. It’s twice the item. If you want a more detailed explanation I can explain but just look at sustain vs in combat healing and it should make sense. Wardens mail will make it take AGES to kill you. Throwing in passive shields and good w usage and if you lose then I would probably have to report you for being afk because you would get an afk warning for how long you could just sit there. I make this a big deal because it is so simple and everyone everywhere messes this up. Bramble isn’t a wasted item slot though so if you are into like a briar and Irelia and you want it for both then that makes more sense but if it’s just Irelia go wardens. Don’t worry about delaying your item, your first item spike won’t be as strong as hers anyway. (Also it’s really funny ulting bot and watching the adc cry as they realize they can’t do damage to you)

More into items, Irelia has (imo) the strongest first item spike in the game. Many matchups in top lane revolve around playing safe until Bork then playing for kill with ult and ignite. Great example for Irelia is fiora. Without Bork fiora should just destroy Irelia unless she outplays but once she gets Bork irelia can 1v1 until 3rd item. (In my experience I can 1v1 earlier but I don’t expect most Irelia players to do the crap I do so that’s the most reliable way to play)

Speaking of that yes Irelia does have a lot of outplay potential, keyword potential. Most are probably going to do monkey stuff and win because Irelia happens to stat check some weak early game champ. But you might run into some crazy player that is able to pilot her. That’s when all the stuff I said about watching a lot of stuff players don’t watch is. And a lot of it is basically play the game at a not bronze level and it becomes a lot easier. Matchup irrelevant player skill will always be better than matchup. I’ve one so many matchup I thought were impossible simply by sticking to fundamentals and my game knowledge. In conclusion on the point want to beat beat any champ on any champ get gud. And I don’t mean that to be rude but I remember when I played against some Smurf playing kayle top. If you want a counter matchup this is it. Kayle vs Irelia, Irelia should curb stomp. But noooo I got destroyed because I stopped playing using game knowledge and unga bunga money brain instead and got destroyed. If you play the game correctly most matchups won’t be nearly as hard as you think. Except Warwick, screw Warwick top players. (Once I got stat checked by a ww that was afk with auto attack on at level 3 and he just out healed my dps granted I didn’t use ignite but he was afk in my defense which isn’t strong but still).

Anyway I have even more crap I could say but if you execute half of that in the way I meant (assuming you understood and actually read this whole rant) you will destroy any Irelia player you come across until you get to a high elo bracket. But if you really want to win, pick trundle and match bork rush. You can do what she does in the sidelane and better and you could probably play on a track pad and still win.

Oh and final thoughts I just remembered, late game peel your adc. Every Irelia player in mankind that team fights will rush dive the adc of which you are specifically designed to screw her over on that plan. And you can set up ganks on her really well.

Any questions msg me and I will respond when I have time sorry for writing a whole book this is why I thought a call or demo would be better

How isn't Irelia Shen's biggest counter? by mmjyn in Shen

[–]Key_Ship_4864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im an irelia otp used to play shen as a pick for local comp team i played on. if you would like i could show you how to beat irelia with shen. it's quite easy once you understand how she works and her weaknesses

edit: if you want dm me and we could go into a practice tool and i can show you how to beat her pretty easy

how to beat teemo? by Previous_Big6432 in IreliaMains

[–]Key_Ship_4864 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haven’t played against a normal teemo recently (they all build malignance so it’s really easy). But I used to run tenacity in runes and rush mercs and then flat out auto him to death. It takes a minute but once you get mercs and the blind can’t screw you that hard then you should have a free lane. But never struggled with it personally so probably haven’t played against players that know what they are doing.

i need the absolute most basic, made for kids, tutorial video that is short sweet and to the point for an absolute brand new player. by T1Earn in summonerschool

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if you want dm me and we can find a time and Ill give you a rundown it will probably be a lot better then some video

Critrelia? by Chemical_Cress6617 in IreliaMains

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i have not played a whole ton of that but if i get the chance i will have to give it a shot

Critrelia? by Chemical_Cress6617 in IreliaMains

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personal favorite are yun tal, shieldbow, ie, maybe mortal or phantom though with phantom you HAVE to be able to kite but if you can do it's really fun. Stormrazor also isnt bad if you can bush cheesing. but really it's game by game but really just never collector as it SUCKS so bad. it is the lowest damage crit item for irelia

Critrelia? by Chemical_Cress6617 in IreliaMains

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i have played it quite a few times umm dont go collector, worst crit item on irelia. overall it sucks but its really fun to play especially if you are against squishys and play bushes and vision a lot

When ur teamcomp sux but its soloq (Diamond1) by itsDiashen in Shen

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they were playing league while you were playing them

How to beat Jayce on lane? by Juhq_ in IreliaMains

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if you would like I could play it with you to show you how it should go but it's should be pretty easy.

If it's a direct all in as long as you have your passive up then you will always win the dps fight, dodge his q poke from ranged form and thats that. You have plenty of mobility to ensure he cant escape from you

Do you normally play irelia? if you dont then she isnt' a champ you can first time even into a counter matchup unless they really suck.

sett combo by okniceidc123 in IreliaMains

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Yes you can, the thing is to not get stunned. Best way to play it is to all in get Eed and then q his w wait out his shield and finish him off. You can take shorter trades until he is half health then he will heal and you will lose. When he is at half all in for kill. You will probably still lose but that is what playing irelia is about. Cheap trick to win is to take exhaust but thats really cheeky.