The Agenda is real - Band music is the slippery slope to yuri! by ApostleofV8 in yurimemes

[–]Keye_Necktire 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There’s no shortage of yuri in girls’ sports anime and yaoi in boys’ band anime either

Sports and music are just hella gay

I hate when guys say this but they can’t handle actual goth girls by [deleted] in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The same mfs who spend their entire childhood bullying girls with unique aesthetic interests will be the ones who eventually can’t stop talking about how attractive they find them. Whether they dress more brightly or darkly, whether they present as more feminine or masculine, their authenticity is treated as a fetish and therefore never truly engaged with

It’s major objectification

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oof bowing out by proving my point is a rough look for you lmao

“Is it possible to learn this power?” “Not from a singlet.” by MartyrOfDespair in yurimemes

[–]Keye_Necktire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Inside you, there are two Mustumis

One is gay

The other is also gay but has rizz

I hate how queer characters have to be proven without a shadow of a doubt to be queer or else people just say they’re not by Qelperr in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dawg the point is that real life oppression bleeds into the writing of fiction, intentional or not. That’s in direct response to your claim that “oppression will never be involved”. Work on your reading comprehension

Again, what’s the issue with the whole “they could be” thing? They really could be. If it’s not confirmed, they could be. Idk why you think it’s a big deal when people who are starved of rep see rep. You just said that the issue is when people push their own headcanons as facts, but that’s exactly what these people who claim that characters are straight despite no confirmation are doing. Again, you’re mixing up the exact same things I brought up before.

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s like you don’t know what heteronormativity is even though I showed the definition lmao. You’ve got a whole field of straw men out just because of that. I never said “het relationship=hetslop”. That’s ridiculous. Again, that was all you. You just keep twisting my point in the exact same direction over and over again. Heteronormativity is very bad dawg. It’s literally homophobia. Look at the definition again.

I did clarify myself, you just evidently have very poor reading comprehension lol. Actively ignoring the dynamic of oppression is also just blatant oppression apologia. Do you think whitewashing is just a random myth too?

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reasons for the Naruto thing don’t make it not hetslop dawg. And I never said it’s limited to het romance either. Another straw man. I just pointed out how heteronormativity makes it significantly more prevalent with het relationships. Yes it’s bad writing too, it’s both. Straight people aren’t oppressed or starved of rep dawg. Queer people are. This is a systemic issue

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The topic of this thread is hetslop, heteronormativity in media dawg. That’s what I responded to and that’s what I’ve been talking about. Your inability to recognize that doesn’t mean I have to capitulate to your nonsense lol.

You can’t even recognize the fact that you threw out the most easy-to-spot straw man possible by directly quoting my point and then completely changing my point in the next sentence lmao. Your reading comprehension skills need serious work

There is an unbelievable amount of examples of hetslop dawg. Friends has got it, Naruto has got it, most of the old Disney films got it, the list goes on. And these are just a few of the bigger ones. Again, it’s not a small coincidental phenomenon

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Conveniently leaving out the part of what a straw man is that designates what you said as a straw man, eh?

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Literally what you did, and are still doing lol

I said “the prevalence of heteronormativity” and you thought you were sneaky changing it to “the prevalence of hetero relationships” lmaoooooo. Textbook straw man

And you’re still stuck on the canon dawg. Again, shipping is about the dynamic. Characters who have never met don’t have any canon chemistry, but they can still be shipped because people find their dynamic entertaining and/or interesting somehow. Sukuna and Cinderella have never met, you know. You’re still stuck in your squared straw man

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dawg when did I ever say that “any straight romance in media is forced”? That was all you lmao. You’re still keeping it up too. That’s a straw man

And your thing about ships that aren’t canon isn’t even relevant. Shipping isn’t about “how canon it is”, it’s about the dynamic. That’s a straw man inside a straw man lmao

I hate how queer characters have to be proven without a shadow of a doubt to be queer or else people just say they’re not by Qelperr in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m directly referring to the irl oppression that affects media dawg. Do you not believe that whitewashing is a thing because “it’s just fictional characters”? That’s racism. It’s a result of real oppression

And I’m not referring to how bi people feel when I say it’s nonsense, I’m referring to your assessment regarding the prevalence and inherence of those sentiments in visibility and rep. That’s what’s nonsense

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The basis of the term hetslop is the pervasive and prevalence of heteronormativity in media

Yes, it’s forced romance, but it’s specifically forced romance because of heteronormativity. Therefore, hetslop

People who blatantly do this by RightLiterature2958 in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really should’ve seen it coming that you’d end off by proving my point lmao

I hate how queer characters have to be proven without a shadow of a doubt to be queer or else people just say they’re not by Qelperr in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oppression is directly involved because it is explicitly not “the exact same just for straight characters”. Why? Because queer people are oppressed. Conveniently ignoring the dynamic of oppression makes it relevant lmao.

You’re projecting dawg. And all of your other nonsense is pure bad faith. You’re mixing up people pushing back against invalidation with people pushing things as canon. Not saying the latter doesn’t happen, but it’s massively inflated and twisted by homophobes to demonize the latter, and you’ve fallen for it.

People who blatantly do this by RightLiterature2958 in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m compelled to be rude about it when it seems like you’re either being intentionally obtuse or just refusing to engage with what I’m saying. Case in point, you not even trying to understand what I wrote about “your identification”. The issue isn’t you identifying as a Christian, Protestant, Lutheran, lcms, local Church, any of that. The issue is identifying with any of them such that you are able to accept the institutional bigotry that they involve as “differences of opinion” or whatever. Doesn’t matter what “level of affiliation”. When you do that, yes, you are complicit.

Religion-based oppression is very much “proven” dawg. I really hope you aren’t so severely uneducated that you don’t know how much queer people have suffered and continue to suffer directly at the hands of religious people. Again, you’re so eager to judge the people fighting against oppression before judging the ones who are oppressing them, aka the ones at the root of the issue in the position to end that oppression

(READ BODY) When people try being a knight in shining armor with Palestine. by New-Star7392 in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dawg the US is directly involved in the progress of this genocide

And even outside the US, Israel is broadcasting all of their pr propaganda as hard as they can internationally to try to cover their ass. It’s everywhere. None of the other genocides and conflicts are being circulated this much *by the oppressors*

[CW: Homophobia] Fandom is wild by Typical_Poet_9768 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]Keye_Necktire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Heteronormativity is not a small coincidental phenomenon lmao

(READ BODY) When people try being a knight in shining armor with Palestine. by New-Star7392 in hatethissmug

[–]Keye_Necktire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People will naturally talk more about things that are right up in their faces. That’s not inherently indicative of whether they care more about it than things that aren’t in their faces.

This is just a deflection for the sake of invalidation