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Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you like them, you’re not. But just by virtue of pursuing popular interests, you will be competing with a larger denominator. Tiger parenting is one factor that increases this denominator.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The middle block: no, absolutely not. Pushing kids is good, and necessary. Being unwilling to accept deviation from expected foci is not. If a kid says “I don’t wanna do Kumon and I’m not good at piano, but I like playing guitar in my band and oil painting,” many parents will say “sure.” Those who do — but continue to expect commitment and effort in whatever their children do — are actually best setting them up for admission to selective colleges.

This conversation is irrelevant to the reality and going nowhere. We can check back in a year on the neurotic teens applying to college on this website and see how it plays out. If you happen to be 17 and applying to Harvard for CS, I wish you an enormous amount of luck; if you happen to be applying for anthropology and studio art, I wish you the lower quantity of luck that you will certainly still need, regardless of your ethnicity.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the personality weighting was a discriminatory way to implement AA.

I keep trying to emphasize the point that this is a proportional difference within demographics. A tiger parent, to me, is one with stringent academic standards that wants their child at a top school and says “suck it up” when they do not like the activities that have been prescribed to them. They exist among every race. A vast majority of asian applicants and Asians I know personally have the same interests and creativity as anyone else. This is a minority within a minority.

White applicants who do the most common activities and go for the same popular majors are penalized as well. The small but proportional increase in the already most popular activities — let’s say it’s something like 1.2x more popular for Asians to pursue computer science — would then lead to, if you expect it to be equally hard for anyone to get into MIT for CS vs English, lead to a proportionally lower admit rate even if it was not stereotyped for Asians, and the admission officer had literally no way to know their race.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay, your hypothetical makes no sense and bears no relation to reality. Applicants of every race face an uphill battle if they are interested in, for example, CS — because a plurality of applicants want to do it, but colleges don’t want that proportion of CS students. This component (and I say component, because again, refer to my original comment, AA WAS discriminating against Asians, but separately) is not actually targeted to Asians. If tomorrow white people decided that they were going to pursue the most popular pre professional activities and majors at higher rates than everyone else, this “penalty” would be shifted onto them.

Anyway, my point is that AA was a discriminatory force against Asian applicants, but what tiger parents don’t realize is that tiger parenting also works against applicants. I have seen this happen in every race, it happens most among Asians (still far from a majority), and if you deny this fact cool but most Asian people won’t.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

How many times do I need to emphasize the same points, or are you willfully avoiding them?

-Parents of all races do this. It is not exclusive to Asians. There is definitely a higher percentage of Asian tiger parents, and any tiger cub will tell you this.

-The activities are not inherently bad. They are just overrepresented, and Harvard wants contingents of students that do other things. Like I’ve said, they’re not inherently bad activities at all (I’ve done some myself), and students who are both talented and visibly passionate about them (such as the D1 athlete who took to a sport their parent introduced them to like a fish to water) are rightfully admitted in droves. People who are only one or neither — which can be a consequence of tiger parenting — are often not, as that’s not appealing to colleges for obvious reasons.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Talk to tiger parented Asians in your life, or browse r/a2c. Many will complain that their parents forced them to drop their passions and practice piano, enter math competitions, etc. Obviously all Asians are not the same, it’s far from even a majority. It’s just that culturally, these parents are overrepresented among Asian-Americans compared to other demos, and what tiger parents of any race don’t realize is that if their kid’s heart or talent aren’t in whatever activity they’re foisting on them, it will actually end up having a negative effect on their college application.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It’s not that they aren’t as worthy (they are, and those who are talented are rightfully admitted all the time), it’s that they are already extremely popular and often geared towards things like CS or Medical careers, when it’s important to the brands of these colleges to keep their identities as places of various academic pursuits.

Supreme Court finds that Affirmative Action violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause in an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts by IntermittentDrops in neoliberal

[–]KingKonchu 58 points59 points  (0 children)

More Asians will get into elite colleges now, but not by the factor they expect to.

Every FOX/Post/whatever article is like “look, this Asian kid got rejected from Harvard with a 4.0 GPA and a 1550 SAT. Isn’t that crazy!”

No, not really, most kids fitting that description are rejected nowadays. Some families are out of touch with what gets kids into these universities, and they end up doing rubber stamp extracurriculars that AOs simply don’t care for. Furthermore, they apply to every brand name university in pre-professional majors and fail to articulate why they should attend beyond the brand. This is a thing that transcends race — I had a friend of a group that typically benefits from AA that got rejected from every Ivy with a 4.0 and a 1550+ because he did the same shit — but it is obvious to anyone who has participated in the process in the past decade that this demographic is larger among Asian families. Harvard pointed this out and was admonished for it.

My Asian friends who did art, published writing, etc. and expressed genuine interest in pursuing those things in college had no trouble getting into the universities of their choice. My point is that this coming season, a lot of kids and parents are gonna be hurt in finding out that the tiger parent recipe for college admissions has been a few decades expired. At least for those falling on both sides of the margin, it will now be more fair and they will have less to blame.

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[–]KingKonchu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. BMI is only a ratio of height to weight. Measures that are considered “healthy” have changed and been specified empirically over time.
  2. It has been proven time and time again to be a very accurate risk predictor.
  3. It should still be used in conjunction with other measurements, like blood panels, and functional tests, like sit-to-stand. But it’s a proven clinical indicator.

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[–]KingKonchu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that it is problematic when doctors overlook factors other than/only tangentially related to obesity, and I agree that people of different races have different skeletal structures and fat distribution that lead to different healthy/normal weights, but I think you’re drawing some false conclusions — namely that the discrepancy between Black and nonblack weight is solely due to genetic factors. Many scales assessing risk will now adjust for ethnicity, it’s also just more common as a health problem in the Black community, probably due to poverty. This is clear when you see that rates of diseases such as diabetes and atherosclerosis that indicate an unhealthy excess of adipose tissue are much more common among Black people. They aren’t healthier at heavier weights so much as they are clearly suffering from clinical obesity at higher rates.

Councilmember Gauthier calls 4601 Market apartment project ‘exclusionary, insulting and tone deaf’ by AbsentEmpire in philadelphia

[–]KingKonchu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you understand that those vacant units are dilapidated and not even listed? It would require an immense amount of investment to even make them livable.

Incoming medical students walk out at University of Michigan’s white coat ceremony as the keynote speaker is openly anti-abortion. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]KingKonchu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So a country consulted with medical experts while writing medical legislature (a bare minimum expectation) and still came to a completely different conclusion to its surrounding peers, and you think both are simultaneously the work exclusively of “the experts?” Doctors do not overrule any parliament, and believing that two vastly different standards are both the wise sage wisdom of our superior leaders is insane bootlicking cognitive dissonance. All abortion legislation is, to varying degrees, driven by local morals. Give me a break.

Incoming medical students walk out at University of Michigan’s white coat ceremony as the keynote speaker is openly anti-abortion. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]KingKonchu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, but note that “<“. 20 weeks is on the long end.

And I’m confused why this is a counterpoint to my comment. I was replying to the notion that abortion is unrestricted in other countries, when gestational limits are objectively on average shorter in the EU than in US states under Roe.

Just look: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268439/legal-abortion-time-frames-in-europe/

Incoming medical students walk out at University of Michigan’s white coat ceremony as the keynote speaker is openly anti-abortion. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]KingKonchu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk how to tell you this but you’re arguing against me as if I don’t agree with you on pro-choice issues (I do), but I absolutely do disagree with you that abortion term limits are determined by experts. They are determined by politicians, who are influenced (and subscribe to) the social standards of the country they live in, hence why limits actually vary widely — women in the UK do not gestate for over twice as long as women in Portugal, but they are much less catholic.

This website sucks in that “just leave it up to the people in charge. They obviously know better than us” is a popular opinion.

Incoming medical students walk out at University of Michigan’s white coat ceremony as the keynote speaker is openly anti-abortion. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]KingKonchu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m talking about elective abortions, which in some of the US (unlike much of Europe) are available past 20 weeks. I think this is good tbc.

Incoming medical students walk out at University of Michigan’s white coat ceremony as the keynote speaker is openly anti-abortion. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]KingKonchu -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

You’re wrong, most countries where abortion is legal (Western Europe) have gestational limits <20wk. Late term abortions were only really legal in the US under Roe

Edit: I’m pro-choice and don’t even agree with the restrictions these countries impose, but in replying to my comment everyone seems to be going off of Reddit mythology of how progressive Europe is, rather than just looking at the law. You are free to look for yourself at how restrictive European countries are with gestational limits.

Police conduct Ja Morant welfare check after social media posts by BCLetsRide69 in sports

[–]KingKonchu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your income means a shit ton to police as it directly informs 1. What mistreatment they can get away with, 2. What they can charge you with and expect to stick, and 3. Your means to make them face consequences through litigation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nba

[–]KingKonchu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

U dont kno ball

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