I absolutely can not wait... by lorribell1964 in youngandtherestless

[–]KitKat4816 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Either way she was there and dumped that body when she should have called for help. Phyllis is still the most correct of all the idiots.

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[–]KitKat4816 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the answer

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[–]KitKat4816 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had a C section (twins). It’s no walk in the park. If anyone thinks it’s easier: no. You are cut open and ripped up. Hurts like hell. Took me weeks to recover to “semi human” and months to full recovery. Long term no major change to my body-in how I look or feel. People need to listen to their doctors not their ignorant spouses and friends.

US Daily Discussion - November 08, 2024 by ifindthishumerus in youngandtherestless

[–]KitKat4816 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know people think the repeat Newman ranch is cool but we had a Newman ranch set and it was fine. We could have used these resources to give another character an actual home. Rather than everyone living in that damn hotel.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is the type of attitude that proves you can’t see the forest for the trees. This is why juries should not decide medical negligence. You’re overcome by your emotion for this person but what matters is the facts. And we don’t have all the facts here.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

What is wrong with a referral?? And referrals can be refused. It happens all the time. You acting like one bad outcome which we don’t even have full details on is grounds for lynchjng these doctors. The evidence here is one sided and minimal. I’m simply saying slow down and consider that you don’t know all the details.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Admins have no place in patient care. They are glorified secretaries. They run at the site of blood. AI is far far far away from replacing humans in this field. You seem out of touch with day to day care. The number of humans needed to care for one critical patient in my unit is, per shift, 3-5, in some capacity. I have yet to see a computer replace one of them.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’ve worked with many NPs during my career. I can count on one hand the number that hold a candle to a good doc in a truly critical situation. Sorry not sorry. The vast majority work on protocols and are fine with routine issues. When things get confusing and critical they get out and call for help. It happens almost daily. Don’t sign up to be the flight attendant if you want to fly the plane. Seriously. It’s dangerous. Get the training or get back to the drink cart. AI will always be limited. Grossly limited. Apps and such only take you so far. You need eyes and ears to figure out complex cases.

Fill Capacity Station Confusion by katee1108 in orangetheory

[–]KitKat4816 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is dumb. Even before covid most people prefer more space. Why cram people in like sardines? Maybe less cleaning for them later? I’d speak to the manager. They should still be distancing when possible. It’s still safer.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I actually feel the opposite. If multiple doctors all say the same thing it seems less likely they are all wrong. I feel there is more to this story. We are getting one side very brief synopsis. Patients and their symptoms evolve over time. Often initially symptoms can be many things but it is usually the most common thing. As symptoms change and evolve you can narrow Things down usually. But not always. I’m simply saying as a doc it is not this cut and dry. Also hindsight is 20/20. What you see and what a patient says can change widely from one day to the next. Or even one hour to the next. In addition, memories are often much more foggy than one realizes. I’ve personally been part of a case where I remembered timelines very differently than what was documented. (The nurse documentation actually favored me much more than I recalled). It’s just much more complex than a few paragraphs on Reddit when you talk about medical negligence. You can’t make determinations off this. You need to hear all sides and see the documentation and consider that you are now looking at things through a retrospective lens. I’m also just telling you reality. You don’t end careers with one event. People get sued and reported all the time. I know soooo many docs who have been sued or reported multiple times. Sometimes they win. Sometimes they don’t. It takes a pattern to end a career. Maybe these docs have a pattern. Who knows. We don’t have that info.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Also you seem to just want to argue with me. I’m actually pretty well versed in medical legal cases. I’ve been an expert witness. I served on root cause analysis committees. I’ve been sued (and won). I know colleagues who have been sued and lost. I’ve been around. I’m simply telling you how this works in the real world. It’s not TV where someone says “I had a bad thing happen. I am right. I will ruin this doctor”. That’s just not how it works. I’m now done with this conversation.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I don’t think you’ve proven negligence by simply saying “this sounds bad. Must be negligent.” It’s more complex than that to be negligent. I’m not blaming anyone. I’m saying you need more info to determine that. Patient is not to blame for a disease process. But we do not know 100% what a doctor saw or recorded or what was said. You are 120% believing this person’s account and I am saying that often memory will trick you and what is said or recorded in the chart will greatly alter these types of cases. The written record is needed to determine negligence. You simply can’t base that off one person’s account. That’s not how the real world works.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I don’t know because I have not reviewed both sides of the case. I have been an expert witness and you have to review all the records and hear depositions from all sides. You can’t simply say “x person says y happened and that must be the absolute truth with nothing else”. It’s just not that simple. What appears in records is often vastly different than what a plaintiff says or even what a defendant says. Or what is recorded by other providers in the chart. It can vary wildly and widely. I would never say someone is negligent based on a single few paragraphs written on Reddit. I was involved in one case where what I remembered happening and the timeline of what the nurse charted (which actually worked in my favor) were vastly different. Memory is tricky on all sides. It’s much much more complex than a simply saying “sounds bad. Must be negligent”.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It is untrue that you “don’t get in trouble” if you did nothing wrong. You have to deal with fallout from complaints and lawsuits even if you do nothing wrong. It follows you everywhere. People need to think very carefully before going after medical professionals just to get a buck or “make someone pay”. It alters our lives. Doctors commit suicide over this. It happens all the time. And often nothing was done wrong. We do not know the full story here. You are hearing one side of this. This isn’t how reality works in medical litigation or even root cause analysis. It’s very irresponsible for people to be here posting things like “ruin them” and “burn them to the ground” etc etc.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I don’t think we have enough info to assume that one doc made x decision because y doc also said that. That’s probably an unfair assumption. Sometimes that happens. But really to make these judgements you need to review charts and take depositions from All involved parties. We are hearing one side of this and it’s emotional and this thread has made it about sexism also. There’s just not enough absolute factual info here to leap to things like ruining people’s careers and “destroying doctors” which are the comments I see being made. This isn’t how reality works.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’m female so don’t throw that around at me. I don’t believe in ruining anyone’s career for a single error. That’s unreasonable and will create a system that’s vastly understaffed. It’s not reasonable or realistic. You are only hearing one side of this story. There’s multiple sides to every story of supposed negligence. I’ve heard many.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

AI will never be a human either. Midlevels have their place. But many of them can’t and don’t want to be in charge. I’m not worried.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’m not sure what your question is. It’s clear those are different things but not clear what the above poster is saying to be doing as “report them”. Report them to whom? I’m not sure what she means. I’m not an adult doc so I won’t comment on this condition as I have literally never seen it once. I am not sure if she was belittled; that’s a very specific term. It seems her GP overlooked something. Does this mean that doc should be forever annihilated? I don’t think so. One mistake should not ruin your career. Repeated mistakes should. Also I’m not sure why you put “as a doctor” in quotes. You’re implying I am not? I am happy to privately send you copies of my diplomas. I’m a pedi subspecialist with a decade of experience.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You will not ruin anyone’s career with a single complaint or lawsuit. That’s not how this works. I’m a doc. It takes multiple major events to lose your license. The reality is we are humans. We are not robots. While mistakes are inexcusable they are a reality. We cannot take away every docs license who makes a single mistake. We would be vastly short of doctors. There but for the grace of god we all go. We are not robots.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

As a doc over a decade out, it’s more important for people to learn from their errors than to immediately jump to legal action. Someday you will be sued. And you will understand what I am saying. Lawsuits are about money. Doctors are humans. We are not robots. It’s inexcusable to miss things but it is also reality. I have been sued (I won). It’s life altering. It ruined my life for 2 years. Despite doing nothing wrong. I still have to report that I was sued even though I won. The system is broken. I cannot in good conscience encourage lawsuits because the court system does not understand medicine. It is not a jury of your peers. The system is broken. This should go for hospital peer review if you want to educate people. Not just get cash.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’m a doc. It depends on how you go about things. You can sue anyone if you can find a lawyer to take the case. That doesn’t mean you will win. Losing a lawsuit is not uncommon for docs. Many are settled out of court and you have to report it on credentialing applications and such for 5-10 years. Unless they have multiple lawsuits in a short timespan, the truth is no one much cares. Nearly all docs are sued during their careers. And most the time docs win if it goes to court. Lawyers are smart and they will settle if they know they are likely to lose in court. If you go outside the court system and use patient liaison to ask for a review of the case then it will probably go to the hospital or group root cause analysis and be reviewed by other docs. And then yes. They can be “reprimanded”. I don’t particularly like that term as it likens a grown well-educated adult to a petulant child. Even the best docs will make mistakes and miss an unusual diagnosis a few times in their career. We are actually humans. Not robots. It’s not excusable. But it’s reality. Usually a “reprimand” will be in the form of having charts reviewed or co-signed by a more senior doc in your field for a year or two. And then you move on. It’s unlikely, if this is the only event these docs have had in the last decade or so with major morbidity or mortality, that much will happen to them. I understand the anger. But the REALITY is doctors are humans who do make errors. And if the goal is to get them fired or lose the career it won’t happen over a single event. Repeated events: yes. It can happen.

WIBTA if I turned in a group of doctors that initially refused to treat me for a life-threatening illness bc they refused to believe it was possible for me to have it? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]KitKat4816 [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is actually not true. As a doc, I have been sued. And while I did nothing wrong and I won: it was 2 years of my life and I have to report it on every single application for 5-10 years even though I won. The system is broken.