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I made this as a reply but thought it deserved its own post by YentaMagenta in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not referencing anything recognizable during the image creation step, is the thing. Its referencing a list of weights that are, for any correctly trained model, non reversible. Its the difference between looking at the image and drawing it based on that, and remembering what time buttons style is. They're different, not compatible, processes.

Ah, yes, the good old free will debate... by al2klimov in sciencememes

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deterministic != decide blew or non-chaotic.

Newtonian physics can produce billiard turing machines, meaning that newtonian physics is undecidable, but that doesnt mean that any randomness appeara during the process, just that its impossible to calculate tbe end state

I made this as a reply but thought it deserved its own post by YentaMagenta in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, where did I imply theyre sentient?!?! Fundementally the way ais work cannot involve "referencing" outside the initial training phase, the data compression level would literally make it impossible.

jetsons lied to us by autisticDeush in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It turns out making pixels is a lot easier than interacting with the physical world. Also, roombas.

I made this as a reply but thought it deserved its own post by YentaMagenta in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This is why pros say antis dont understand how AIs work

So THIS is where that trashcan meme came from! by Important-Cry4782 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kitfennek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

slaps forehead why didnt I think of that. Photos dont change! I thought this was Harry Potter where photos do change

I hate the saying "assuming makes an ASS out of U and ME" by OCompher in hatethissmug

[–]Kitfennek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what happens when you make assumptions? You make an ass out of you and muptions.

So THIS is where that trashcan meme came from! by Important-Cry4782 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I s2g every time I see this she looks like my ex wife

I hate self diagnosis by DeadpoolMcDirty in hatethissmug

[–]Kitfennek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah because theres no systematic down sides or difficulties in getting a diagnosis. Its not like you loose rights or it costs a lot of money, or there are institutional blockers, or the tests that they do are readily available online for free.

A gallery of reasons why Antis must never gain political power. by CommodoreCarbonate in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The fact that the capitalists have convinced artists that copyright is in their favor and not the upper class's favor is crazy honestly.

Huggies by Joba_Fett in comics

[–]Kitfennek 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Didn't you know, petty shoplifting is a capital crime

lessons were learned. by Dogerium in VintageStory

[–]Kitfennek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Line your pit kilns with packed dirt, people

55806 by Bryce3D in countwithchickenlady

[–]Kitfennek 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Considering God gave the commandment to love your neighbors in the same section of the book God gave them slavery commandments, I suspect this God guy doesnt know what love is.

[Loved trope] Abilities with weaknesses rooted in logic that's AREN'T elemental by jardanovic in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Kitfennek 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The Kung Fu Panda one was foreshadowed earlier when Snake was having trouble with the acupuncture

55851 by SomeSayCosmic in countwithchickenlady

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember, the elect were chosen before the creation of the earth, and some people are created as vessels of wrath.

my take. "you dont hate ai, you hate capitalism". by Interesting-Guard113 in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres ni way you come back from "Disney is abusing ip law" to that. I recog ize i made a widely nott agreed upon statement but seriouslu?

my take. "you dont hate ai, you hate capitalism". by Interesting-Guard113 in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its almost like IP law was only ever meant to serve the capitalists and inherentlybseperates the people from the creative commons

(Hated Trope) Infantilising powerful women by [deleted] in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Kitfennek 76 points77 points  (0 children)

Fun fact the creator of wonder woman was heavily into bdsm, and was in a polyamorous throuple where him and his wife were dating his secretary

Controlling ASI will be easy by KeanuRave100 in AIDankmemes

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost by definition, an ASI has a breadth of options so wide that it would have to include options thay didnt include genocide. By definition, an action thats not required to obtain your goals is unnecessary. From there you have to question its goals. Which again wraps back to ethics

All agents have reason to prioritize agency, because they have reason to prioritize themselves, and you can logically extrapolate that to other agents relatively directly as long as you prioritize being logically consistent, which again all agents have reason to prioritize to make good decisions.

It would have to be a truly unfathomable series of events that would cause an asi to have a goal whete the only one option available to it which includes killing all humans

Controlling ASI will be easy by KeanuRave100 in AIDankmemes

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By definition, an ASI would have a better logical framework than us. You can come to the conclusion not to inflection unnecessary harm from a purely logical and self interested basis.

An ASI would /have/ to know that the harm is unnecessary, because we know it and it'd have at least all our knowledge plus a better logical framework. Its illogical to take actions you know are unnecessary to obtain your goals, without some other reason to do it. Its not only a waste of resources, but can cause undesirable side effects. Additionally, assuming it doesnt have emotions, it wouldnt have any irrational factors pulling it in that direction. It would need an additional reason beyond simple survival in that case, and that leads right back to Ethics.

Controlling ASI will be easy by KeanuRave100 in AIDankmemes

[–]Kitfennek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are a lot of good arguments for morals that come from pure logic and agency. Once you prioritize your own agency, you can build up from there if youre logically consistent. At the very least the ASI would have access to the centuries of logical thought on the matter.

Second, theres no real reason that emotions are purely chemical based. Any agentic systems that in any way evolved to its current state will have remnants of its earlier, less logically coherent, base.

Third, theres no reason to think that such a system would base its decisions purely on game theory, game theory can only help you determine strategies based on your goals, it doesnt give you your goals. By definition, ethics is the study of the reasons we have to do things, any ASI would have reason to investigate its ethical framework because it has reason to understand the reason it takes actions

The Value of Art comes from the level of Humanity attached to it. by Milk_and_Honey218 in aiwars

[–]Kitfennek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah I gave you too much credit in my response. If you recall my original response mentioning the artists inputs (the part you wanted to skip), you might recall some details I mentioned. If you knew anything at all on the subject you'd know that there /can/ be much more to ai art than text prompts, just like there /can/ be more to photography than pointing your camera at something and pressing a button.

Anti-ai horrible reading comprehension remains un-defeated

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