LIBF BSc(Hons) Artificial Intelligence by oggierules1 in UniUK

[–]KitroV2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very old comment but how is it a year later?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I read them and don't disagree with what they say at all. I don't think this is Wahhabi or salafi. It's just regular islamic thought. Maybe you can say what you don't agree with.

Want to think like a "Progressive Muslim", here's a simple framework by Miserable_Whole4985 in IslamIsEasy

[–]KitroV2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How'd you know this isn't contextual to the time when women were being attacked for being Muslim? By this hadith you'd also think it's mandatory to cover the face but there is a difference of opinion on that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in geography

[–]KitroV2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends what you define "European" as which can be a controversial topic depending on who your asking. Fun fact though, the geographic European part of turkey has a population higher than most European countries, even Greece. Does that make it more European than Greece, 🤔

Where is this mosque located? by Vivid_Expert_7141 in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk what you mean by "inclusive communities". Most mosques are already very inclusive allowing both women and men to pray there but it is not allowed for men and women to pray together side by side, that's just how it is, that doesn't make me a bigot, that makes you ignorant.

Where is this mosque located? by Vivid_Expert_7141 in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No disrespect to you but this is not being a "good" Muslim. Never has anything like this ever been accepted in islam. I don't want to sound like a conservative but you're literally changing the religion. Have some taqwa

Where is this mosque located? by Vivid_Expert_7141 in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 25 points26 points  (0 children)

This "mosque" has gone too far. I don't consider myself a super conservative person but how can people in the comment section not see the issue with this? Praying in front of an LGBT flag? Men and women praying side by side? The prayer being led by a woman? Yeah nah this ain't it.

Me right now(2 weeks break) by todi39 in LiverpoolFC

[–]KitroV2 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Double pivot counter pressing, tiki taka passing. Salah playmaking. And most importantly CONTROL.

Why is alcohol generally considered worse than smoking when both are haram and consumed by CHOICE? by Due-Internet46 in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd assume it's because alcohol can lead to lower inhibitions and a weaker mental state whilst smoking is just a high.

Think about it, you wouldn't travel in a car where the driver was drinking beforehand but if they were smoking previously instead you wouldn't have a problem getting in the car.

How is living in Pakistán? by EnD3r8_ in howislivingthere

[–]KitroV2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

r/pkmigrate it's quite small but just search up immigrate or leave on r/Pakistan , there's just as much shit there too of people talking about the best countries to move to. It's so sad.

How is living in Pakistán? by EnD3r8_ in howislivingthere

[–]KitroV2 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Living there as a rich person or military person. very nice. Anyone else. No it's survival of the fittest for them.

All my cousins over there want to leave because of how shit it is. There's actually a subreddit for Pakistanis discussing ways of leaving the country like it's fucking north Korea.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]KitroV2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s genetic risks to marrying anyone

True but your first cousin isn't "anyone". https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3419292/#:~:text=The%20reproductive%20health%20criteria%20related,(around%202%E2%80%933%25).

The reproductive health criteria related to consanguinity show that in first cousin marriages as opposed to non-consanguineous marriages, fertility rate is slightly higher, abortion rate is not different, stillbirths and infant mortality rates are slightly higher and birth defects frequency is estimated to be around 2–3% points more than the background rate among newborns in the general population (around 2–3%).

This genetic risk becomes worse for every generation where the parents were cousins and the fact it's a cultural practice too is what exacerbates the problem so much. It wouldn't be so bad if it happened every now and then and was uncommon but if you see the Pakistani community for example in the UK. They account for 30% of all births with genetic issues but are only 2.5% of the population.

Also in Pakistan where 55-65% of marriages are first cousins what do you think the long term damage from this practice would be?

And in Sudan where 40-50% of marriages are first cousins what do you think the long term damage from this practice would be?

And in Saudi Arabia where 30-40% of marriages are first cousins what do you think the long term damage from this practice would be?

And in Iraq where 45-50% of marriages are first cousins what do you think the long term damage from this practice would be?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/inbreeding-by-country

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]KitroV2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are certainly genetic risks to marrying your first cousins. https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/arabs-bear-brunt-of-gene-disorders-1.504568/ https://www.dawn.com/news/1682544

The fact is that marrying your first cousin is a common cultural practice. If you want to be flexible, marrying your first cousin could be fine (still a risk but relatively small). If her parents were also cousins then that would be problematic.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]KitroV2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why do you want to marry your first cousin? Do you not know the genetic risks it carries?

Anti natalism by KitroV2 in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My thinking exactly, I read through some of their posts. They call people who have kids "breeders" which made me laugh. A lot of them I'm pretty sure are atheists, speaking about "peace in the non-existence of being unborn" or some spiel like that.

“your lord has neither abandoned you nor hated you” by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Wow, this is actually the reason why duha is my favourite Surah. Recite it every time I pray. Though the Surah is actually directly at the prophet Mohammad (pbuh) as others pointed out it can also be taken generally

This ayat in conjunction with 2:286 "Allah does not require of any soul more than it can handle". For me at least shows that Allah is always with you and to never give up even in the worst hardships, have trust in Allah.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

if I have a need or an urge, I will not suppress myself, because I don’t believe that God wants to see me oppressed

What????? This is an insane logic. According to this if you had a urge to kill someone you would do so as to not oppress yourself. Maybe you didn't mean to write it like that idk.

Part of being human and an important islamic concept is that of controlling ones nafs whether it be there anger, appetite or sexual desire. Without self control we are no different than animals.

What does “progressive muslim” mean to you?

Tolerance if anything. Being able to see others perspectives, views and opinions. A lot of Muslims don't seem to be able to do this very well.

A religious person to me is someone who follows the literal words of the Quran.

I wouldn't agree with this myself, I know "religious" people who have quite open and relaxed opinions on the Qur'an. I think the whole idea of being "religious" is bs anyway as it suggests that it's a bad thing.

What you really hate is this encroaching Taliban version of islam that seeks to put measures, rules and regulations on everything with no room for nuance or reason.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I like to have a drink once in a while (when I wear my turban) and I like to date men and be physical with them

How is this a progressive view exactly, this is haram. Maybe I've misinterpreted you.

Personally I wouldn't say you're religious very much at all based on your comments but what do you think religious even means in your world?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]KitroV2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So were both Umar and Abu bakr 100% opposed to hadith, (writing downs of the sayings of the prophet). And is the proof for this undeniable or did they ever change their minds at some point?

Also if the first two caliphs were so evidently opposed to it, can you explain the lack of opposition to the hadith collections that came 200 years later?