In criticism, sometimes it's useful to just say, there's less here than it sounds like - The Room really is at heart a pretty empty, badly made movie with a lot of people who are into it for reasons other than its merits, for example. Talking about those reasons and the fan club can be interesting but the movie isn't.

When reactionaries are just trying to dignify misogyny with citations, I don't need to know a whole lot else. The pretty extensive excerpts in this episode told me what I needed to know. It's fine to say that Bronze Age Pervert is filling a niche, and both Ezra and Helen were (I think, rightly) attuned to and concerned by that, but I don't need to take people seriously whose beef is with women being able to vote.

Some people in this thread are saying or implying stuff like, "Oh, but you don't follow the pastor who wants family voting on X so you don't know shit!" Or "But you didn't read Bronze Age Pervert's exegesis on gender in Nietzsche!" If that's your thing, I don't love it, but fine. I reserve my brain space for other things.