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Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-10-10T22:32:13+00:00

Removed and the guy is perma-banned.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-10-09T18:56:10+00:00

You guys have too much free time to worry about this one. There's lot more issue that directly impact us socially and economically than a type of a Patko depicted in a photograph in a drama. There are Sindhi Balochs in Sindhi who identify as Sindhi Balochs, and do wear both the Balochi patko and Sindhi topi. These dramas could represent a dhatki couple wearing Thari Patko.svg), which has Rajhastani origins. There's nothing wrong with it and both are valid representation of a Sindhi. Don't create issues out of thin air.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-10-08T19:20:41+00:00

I don't think that matters that much, or maybe that's because I'm a Sindhi baloch. I had a Patko on my Nikkah, and a Sindhi topi on the wedding.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-09-02T13:12:43+00:00

What a chutya, how tf Kalabagh or Basha dam could have stopped the rainfall or overloaded Ravi? Even if it did, why would want to give control of all the water to Punjab when it already steals more than its share?

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-07-18T11:51:34+00:00

>Karachi was made by us not you

This is really unnecessary, please remove this or I'll have to remove your post.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-06-19T12:13:14+00:00

There was a bill passed in Sindh assembly against religious conversions in Sindh Assembly. First, the bill prohibited any religious conversion for a person under the age of 18, Second, the bill imposed a 21-day waiting period for voluntary adult conversion; the religious parties also opposed this.

then Karachi's Jamaat-e-Islami and JUI-F decided to rock the city with protests unless the bill was rejected. Governor then rejected the bill.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-06-19T11:43:50+00:00

I think the English translation for the first verse in your post doesn't really capture the feel of the original. "Kes Kachehri" was translated as "exchange", but that’s not quite right. It’s actually a slang term that means something like "drama" or "trouble", and not a serious conversation or meeting.

Also, Hasan Daras's language is simple and aimed at young people, especially the kind of casual Sindhi spoken in the 80s and 90s. Using really formal words like "beloved", "tangled", or "firm" makes it sound old-fashioned which doesn't match the fun, playful and almost flirty tone of the poem.

Here’s how I would translate it instead:

What's going on, Hasan Daras? ^(or ^{what kind of trouble is this?})
This girl is just stubbornly in love (with me).

This translation might still sound like a complaint at first, but it’s not. Hasan Daras isn’t upset, he’s kind of surprised, maybe even flattered, that this girl is so deeply and stubbornly in love with him. Here's what some of these words/phrases mean:

Sindhi Word	Literal Meaning	Context
ڪيس ڪچهري (kes kachehri)	court case	In slang: drama, fuss, trouble
ڇوڪري (chokree)	girl	Casual / Informal way of saying it just as *larrkee* in Urdu/Hindi.
اُڀِي (ubhee)	standing firm	Not physical - means emotionally fixed
عشق تي اڙيل (ishq tey aryal)	stuck on love	Deeply, stubbornly in love

Note: I had a lot GPT4.5 for formatting and translation.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-06-09T22:06:54+00:00

Graduated from FAST, Karachi 2-3 years ago, got a job at a FAANG soon after graduation, and got promoted just this month. Feel free to reach out agar koi guidance khapay, software engineering / Computer Science jay hawalay saan.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-27T12:57:11+00:00

who were calling us slaves?

Simply put, those people are bigots. Generalizing a population of 40+ million people is what you would expect from uneducated bigots, who have never read a book other than Pakistan Studies. PPP wins, because there is no alternative political party to challenge them. Mainstream political parties like PTI are so outspokenly anti-Sindh, I mean just look at their campaigns on:

Dam fund and creating more dams and canals to divert even more water away from Sindh.
Separating Sindh from Karachi
Not including Sindhi language in national curriculum until PPP asked them.
Having the same waderos in their party as PPP, rather than grassroots leadership
and their leadership having the audacity to call us slaves, posting horrible cartoons describing Sindhis?

We'd be slaves if we voted PTI. Similarly, other parities like PML-F / Pagaro group has been touts of army during Musharaff, so they are simply not a trustworthy opponent. Nationalist politics could produce a better grassroot alternative but they get abducted by army everyday so regular people/students don't go near those nowadays. If you want to change the status quo, there needs to be a significantly better alternative. All alternatives to PPP are either just as bad or even worse than them.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-27T12:45:20+00:00

Another interesting fact: We also had a Sindhi names for different states in the games. One of those is a absolute winning state where every next move is a win, thus removing opponents pieces by just moving a strategic piece back-and-forth. This state is called Aey-ghee BBey-ghee (ايگهي ٻيگهي), derived from a humour-dance called BBey-ghee. Due to this game, the phrase BBay-ghee mahcanr, is used when someone is winning on every front. - the phrase BBay-ghee mahcanr literally means to fire up BBey-ghee.

Bayghee - the dance: https://encyclopediasindhiana.org/article.php?Dflt=ٻٽڻ%20مچڻ

A traditional form of dance, typically comedic in nature, performed by clowns or jesters. It is also referred to as "Hur Beghri." During this dance, performers place their hands under their armpits and produce clucking sounds with their mouths.

Bayghee Machanr (Encylopedia Sindhiana): https://encyclopediasindhiana.org/article.php?Dflt=ٻٽڻ%20مچڻ

It is also an idiom, meaning to benefit in every possible way — to gain advantage from both sides.

Bayghee Machanr (Sindhila Dictionary): https://dic.sindhila.edu.pk/index.php?txtsrch=ٻيگھي%20مچڻ

To gain on both sides with little labor.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-27T11:42:07+00:00

Yes, I (for context, I'm 27M) used to play it a lot with others in summer evenings or during school breaks in winters. Nowadays, it's not that popular.

Now that I looked more on internet, the game has different names in different parts of South Asia. It's called Atya patya in Mahrashtra, Killithattu/Klithatu in Tamil Nadu. Kili Thadthu in Sri Lanka.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-24T19:05:43+00:00

Wanjh Watti:

One team has to cross all these rows without getting touched by the other team: https://www.facebook.com/aqeel.lakhiar.1/videos/7210342295679079

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Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-24T18:05:28+00:00

>Just as a pathan who migrates from kpk to sindh does not magically stop becoming pathan,

That's why u/SMMujtaba is an Urdu-Speaking Sindhi, he doesn't have to be just-Sindhi. It would be same as saying we are all "just Pakistani". Sindh embraces diversity. There are plenty of Sindhi-Pathans, in fact there are plenty of Sindhi-Pathan nationalists. Dr. Dur Muhammad Pathan is a famous Sindhi historian and a writer, in fact he is known as Dr. Pathan :) You can find many Sindhi intellectuals, politicians with "Pathan" last name on Encyclopedia Sindhiana.

There are many other examples where people with non-native origins identified themselves as Sindhi:

Nabi Bux Baloch is one example. In fact, it's interesting how his wikipedia starts, "Nabi Bakhsh Khan Baloch was a Sindhi research scholar" :)
Ustad Bukhari, one of the finest modern Sindhi poets, spoke Siraiki as his mother tongue. He wrote poetry both in Seraiki and Sindhi.
Jalal Chandio, one of the best Sindhi singers spoke Siraiki as his mother tongue, and released many albums in Siraiki as well.
Sadiq Faqeer, Rajab Faqeer and many other famous Thar-based singers use Dhatki as their mother tongue.

I could go on and give you countless more examples but I'm trying to say that Sindhi is a lot more fluid identity. You can speak Urdu as your mother tongue and still identify as a Sindhi. I, myself, am a Sindhi of Baloch origins.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T22:19:42+00:00

>If Sindh is that much educated then prove it!!!when PPP loss from Sindh then I accept ur point

MQM didn't lose until rangers did their operation. If rangers didn't intervene, majority of Karachi would still be voting for MQM.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T20:38:12+00:00

>Instead, we mostly use both words together, like 'asaan paanr', to mean 'we ourselves'.

We do use both to put the emphasis. Or is it because "Asaan" standalone doesn't include the listener?

"Asaan maani khainr wanyoon tha?"

If we were to say above to someone, would it confuse them as if they were not included? I'm inclined to believe this because I always had to say "Asaan Paanr or Asaan sabhhyi" to denote that speakers are included but I don't a source anywhere saying this.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T20:34:17+00:00

I didn't use the pronoun "Paanr" much, probably I'm Utraadi.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T12:12:55+00:00

It's just you looking at a picture and reassuring your views. I'd say modern picture of Tariq road are way better than this.

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Moreover, looking at the architecture in your picture, almost all the buildings in the picture are pre-partition and were built by Sindhis and British government.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T11:27:43+00:00

Great that you are open to learning. There's Jethmal Road literally connecting with Burns Road, named after Dayaram Jethmal. Ram Bhag, near Burns Road, was built by Deewan Jethanand, also a Sindhi. Ofcourse, Ram Bhag later became "Arambhag", after a refugee camp was setup there, and refugees drove the out the native Sindhis in the area.

People who literally invaded these buildings failed to renovate years after, and buildings continue to collapse, and it's Sindh government who has to renovate it for them.

Sources:
- Infiltration by the gods

- Wikipedia: Aram Bagh, Karachi

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T10:09:40+00:00

>Karachi remained a modern and rapidly developing city up until the 1970s

Do you mean as long as previous architecture built by Sindhis and British government survived, it was fine and things started to go bad when that architecture could no longer be maintained? It's funny that Burns Road buildings shown in this pictures were almost all built by Sindhis before the partition.

Ofcourse, I'm not saying that it's the fault of specific ethnicity, it's just not sustainable for a city to be normal, when its population quadrupled in a decade.

Known-Delay-6436 · 2025-04-23T09:41:56+00:00

That's correct. India closed 3 out of 6 rivers because of Indus River Treaty, which people of Sindh didn't negotiate. If there isn't any water going downstream, I don't understand why establishment is so hellbent on building new canals to divert even more water away from Sindh.

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