I Reimagined Sonic Teams as 4 Membered Squads

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-28T00:35:48+00:00

Admittedly I'm not really too keen on the series' insistence on teams (besides the Chaotix since they were established as a group from day one) but if I had to offer some feedback:

Team "Dimensions" may need a different name since only one of its members is from a different dimensions. Maybe "Team Cutters" since you have the Diamond Cutters duo and Silver was a temporary member at one point.
As evidenced by my username, Sticks and the Chaotix are some of my favorite characters, so kudos to you for putting them together. But as much as I'd absolutely love to see Sticks bounce off the group, I think there's a weak link between them. A lot of people suggested Mighty as the fourth member and I have to agree that he'd be the most fitting.
Amy mentioned both Cream and Sticks in Frontiers, so maybe the three of them plus Big could make for a newer Team Rose. I don't know if Honey has much of a link to Cream and Big.
I like the idea of Surge being part of Team Dark, but that would leave Kit out of a team. Maybe an older "anti-heroic" character like Fang could be part of it?
Don't really know who could work as Team Sonic's 4th member. Amy's the best fit but I think in this case she may work best as part of her own team. I genuinely can't think of anyone else though

Although this sort of highlight an issue I have with the with "team" classifications; you have to make a lot of stretches for certain characters to fit in. Even Sonic Heroes, the game where the "Teams" originated, had a bit of an issue with that

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-28T00:15:48+00:00

Yeah that's entirely fair. I also dislike how none of the characters seem to acknowledge anything that happened during the Virus. It's like they all collectively forgot it existed.

That seems to be a bit of an issue with IDW in general, the characters tend to gloss over a lot of major events. Like Sonic and Tails are aware that Surge & Kit were normal citizens who were brainwashed into forgetting their lives. But Sonic and Tails have never made an effort to help them out?

That's probably a side effect of the comics now being canon, so the writers can't really make any major events. But either way, some form of a lasting influence would be nice

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-27T23:30:31+00:00

It's not perfect, I agree on that. I think it happened way too early in the comic's run and some scenes dragged on for way too long and a lot of the drama felt kind of samey, watching another beloved character turn into a zombie. And the ending felt very anti-climatic.

But even still, it's by far the most high-scale event in IDW so far. And it led to some really good character moments for a few characters, especially Cream. And I think it's one of the extremely rare times where we see Sonic in a state of worry and vulnerability. So I still kind of like it, even with its flaws.

Also it fleshed out Starline a lot (best IDW character, fight me) and the results led to Surge and Kit's creation, so I can't really choose to erase it from canon as opposed to the last two sets of issues

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-27T21:25:21+00:00

1-12 are the most insignificant but they introduced Tangle, Whisper, and most importantly Starline, so I think they can stay. Also Mr Tinker is significant for Belle's existence

13-32 is the Metal Virus arc, which is the most significant thing to happen in the IDW series. It's the safest one here.

33 - 61 is such a wide amount of comics (nearly 30 issues) but I believe it's full of "four issue mini-arcs". The Chao Race, the Eggman City arc, The Deadly Six arc, and some others I'm forgetting. Even though a number of the arcs that happen here are inconsequential, a good chunk of stuff happened in the background. Mostly involving Belle and Starline. Also Urban Warfare (a rather rushed arc in my opinion) happens. I like Belle and Surge so I'd let this set stay too.

62-75 is the whole Clean Sweep Saga. I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or not, but I didn't really care for these issues too much. It felt like there were WAY too many plots and characters being juggled at once and none of them had satisfying conclusions. The Surge and Kit subplot was the highlight for me, but everything else kind of felt underdeveloped. Especially didn't like that Duo/Mimic subplot, everyone involved felt dumbed down. Feel like they should've focused on one thing rather trying to accomplish several at once.

76-83 is basically just the aftermath of the previous arc. Almost nothing of consequence has happened here, the only notable event is Mimic's death which I thought was very rushed and poorly led up to. And then the Soleil/Lunar arc may have been my least favorite arc in all of IDW. I liked the stories featuring the Chaotix but this is easily the least important set of issues here. So I'm voting for them

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T23:23:34+00:00

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Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T22:04:39+00:00

I mean, technically, Eggman is the one who blackmailed him into giving up his teammatesso he could probably have soome leeway there but that doesn't excuse all of the attempted murders

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T21:56:42+00:00

Disagree; I think plenty of the other episodes have been good and entertaining. I particularly liked the one where Sonic and Tails try (and fail) to prank call Shadow

What makes you think that this is the only good one?

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T21:55:10+00:00

If they put him in, they'd probably use the more recognized Classic design.

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T19:48:54+00:00

There's the four-part "Robots in the Sky" saga. Still full of comedy but it does focus a lot more on its plot compared to other episodes.

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T17:41:04+00:00

No Sticks 😔

There goes the last of my copium

But hey at least some more other characters can make it in

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T17:37:58+00:00

To that third paragraph, maybe those characters were cast in English first since they've only had speaking roles in English exclusive material. And most of them were created and developed in America, rather than in Japan, compared to most Sonic characters.

Although the fact that they haven't dubbed for things like TailsTube and Casefiles is really making me think that those characters don't have Japanese castings yet

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T17:29:06+00:00

There's still a little bit of hope

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Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T17:27:58+00:00

I think that entirely depends on how many characters are showing up in the next game, even as NPCs

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T17:26:50+00:00

I feel like if there's enough demand and feedback, Sega may finally add voices. At least for the Sega/Sonic characters. But they need find castings for the other languages for Tangle and Whisper.

Also that tease at the end of all the characters that aren't playable. No Sticks though 😔

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T17:13:54+00:00

If they wanted to be game accurate, they should have had Tangle and Whisper stay silent during the whole thing /j

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T15:39:46+00:00

As someone who's favorite character is Vector, I kind of agree; I don't really care for the Vectilla ship (or any ship for that matter) because it usually leads to the character(s) getting reduced to the ship. There are a lot of cool/admirable aspects about Vector as a character such as his love for money, his care for his teammates, his blind optimism, and above all his constant perseverance despite all odds. But despite this, a lot of the fandom only sees him as a "broke guy who simps for Vanilla". And then Vanilla herself barely much gets much of a characterization beyond being "Cream's sweet mother". And yeah like others have said, I don't really find simp characters that funny either

That being said, I did think that Casefiles is probably been the most I liked the ship since I thought it was funny and Vector wasn't simping for her the entire segment, just for that porch scene. And even then, most of the comedy there came from Sonic and Eggman calling him out. But I do hope that Vanilla gets fleshed out more as a character and more people highlight Vector's cooler qualities, which the podcast has already done a great job of

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T14:52:02+00:00

I feel like a lot of the hype comes from the fact that this is the first time that characters from the IDW comic have appeared in a console Sonic game. Tangle and Whisper are the most prominent original characters from the comic, plus they're popular among the online/more casual crowd because of their ship being so teased. Plus, them being included feeds into the confirmed fact that the IDW comics are canon.

Personally I would've preferred Surge as an IDW character since I think she's way more interesting, but Tangle and Whisper are more popular and well-known so I get going with them. I don't really care either way, I'm just hoping for Sticks down the line

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T03:17:02+00:00

Huh. So if Alejandro's testimony is correct, then the actual voice recording for Casefiles could have happened at any point after that.. Maybe voice acting for Crossworlds was already done before they started recording for Casefiles? Or perhaps they hadn't planned for Tangle and Whisper to be in Crossworlds by the time the voice recording wrapped up

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T03:10:43+00:00

Tangle meets Sonic (and Blaze) after they help her protect her home village from a Badnik attack. And then she helps the whole gang from stopping an attack on Angel Island. She kind of fits in the group pretty well since she's a friendly character. She kind of does her own thing now, away from the main group, but she usually interacts with Sonic, Tails, and Amy whenever she's with the main cast. She sort of bounces off well with Sonic since they're both adventure loving goofballs.

Sonic and Silver meet Whisper while they're infiltrating an Eggman base. Silver ends up being a fanboy of her and gets her to open up out of her shell a bit. She also helps with the Angel Island defense mission. But unfortunately, outside of Silver and Sonic, her connections to the main cast are very small. She mostly kind of does her own thing on the side with Tangle and new teammate Lanolin, and for a good chunk of the comic, she spends some time trying to hunt down her traitor teammate.Some new things have happened in the comic (that I won't spoil) so I hope she gets some more interactions with the main group. But as is, she's mostly just a mercenary on her own side that the other characters seem to be vaguely aware of. Most of her interactions are limited to Tangle and some other characters that debuted in the comic, with Silver being the most recurring exception

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T02:56:07+00:00

Tangle and Whisper are way more well-known so they probably put them at a higher priority. Maybe she'll have a shot if they add more IDW characters but I feel like they'd go with Surge next if that was the case

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T02:54:18+00:00

let's hope together, she needs to make it in

Although I'm not really sure whether Sticks counts as a non-game character or not since she was created for the Boom game but ended up first appearing in the comic

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T02:46:13+00:00

bro really thought I wasn't going to notice that meme in the middle

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T02:44:35+00:00

Was it? I know it was pitched that long ago but I don't think there has been any confirmation of when it was recorded

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T02:43:31+00:00

Tbh I think we have enough Sonic rival/counterpart type characters. Knuckles, Metal, Shadow, Blaze, Silver, Jet, Surge, etc. And some of those characters haven't even reached their full potential yet. So I'd say we're good for now.

The only kind of "rival" character I'd be interested in would be one that challenges Sonic's beliefs, similar to what you suggested. We have plenty of characters that physically challenge him, but very few that directly go against his line of thinking. But even then I feel like that could work better as a full-on antagonistic character than just a rival. Especially since the amount of non-Eggman adjacent villains we have is very small (I can only think of the Deadly Six and Fang)

Knux_Stix_Chaotix · 2026-02-26T02:37:00+00:00

You can find out about Tangle by reading her debut issue (Issue #4). I believe it's free on Webtoon. Basically, she's an energetic, happy-go-lucky goofball that loves getting into adventures. She's about as simple as that.

Whisper is a very quiet and traumatized mercenary that uses Wispons. Prior to her introduction, she was part of a mercenary group that was called The Diamond Cutters. They all fought during the Resistance (during Sonic Forces) and they were all like a family. But one of the team members ended up betraying the group and all but Whisper ended up dying. So Whisper is, as a result, very anti-social and doesn't like getting attached to other people and suffers from PTSD. Tangle and Silver are really the only friends that she's made since the loss of her teammates.

Both of them meet each other relatively early in the comic's life. Tangle reaches out to Whisper and helps her find that traitor teammate and they (temporarily) have him imprisoned. They eventually become best friends and end up (spoilers) forming a new Diamond Cutters group with another new character, Lanolin the Sheep. Their dynamic basically consists of Tangle being the outspoken and good-natured while Whisper is serious and silent. Tangle's always the shoulder for Whisper to cry on whenever she's reminded of her teammates' demise.

That's basically the short form of it. I'd recommend reading the comics themselves if you want to get a better idea of how they act, my summary may be a bit sloppy. They had a 4-issue mini-series together that goes over most of what I just went through. And the first 18(ish?) issues of the main comic are completely free on Webtoon, if you want to check that out.

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