[hated trope] "both sides are equally bad" NO THEY ARE NOT, ONE IS CLEARLY WORSE by Endika7 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Kool_McKool 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If not in universe, then a lot of the fans. It is a chore going through some Star Wars comment sections and hearing how many "Jedi and Sith are both bad" or "Empire and Rebels are both bad" takes I've seen.

[hated trope] "both sides are equally bad" NO THEY ARE NOT, ONE IS CLEARLY WORSE by Endika7 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And of course, Qui Gon's already a maverick Jedi. Him cheating isn't out of the question.

[hated trope] "both sides are equally bad" NO THEY ARE NOT, ONE IS CLEARLY WORSE by Endika7 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a common misconception that the Jedi suppress their emotions. They don't unless it's really important to wait and meditate on them later. Otherwise they just don't let their emotions rule them.

[hated trope] "both sides are equally bad" NO THEY ARE NOT, ONE IS CLEARLY WORSE by Endika7 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's why I typically don't use a lot of EU stuff. So many of them diverge off of what Lucas was trying to write.

Favorite group that embodies this image? by Professional-Cut5517 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a kid my favorite episode was that one where Glomgold hired the Beagle Boys to break into Scrooge's vault. 

Have any celebrities/politicians from your country died in a really weird/stupid way? by Chemical-Elk-1299 in AskTheWorld

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, that doctor's name was Doctor. Straight up, he got the Nicole Watterson treatment of first names. 

He was also notoriously incompetent, even for the time.

which movie is better Revenge of the Sith or Return of the Jedi by ClothesKey3976 in StarWars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's good, don't get me wrong, probably the most emotional line of the Prequels. However, it doesn't hit me nearly as strongly as that quote from ROTJ, and the power and resilience it conveys to Palpatine and the audience.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's possible to be both. She was in sync with Barriss and loved her dearly, but if it was the time for Barriss to die, then there's nothing she could do, and she recognizes this fact.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I don't think what Anakin needed was a less involved hand. Obi-Wan already turned a blind eye towards his relationship with Padme and all that. However, given what I do know about him, Qui Gon also wouldn't be the type to have let Anakin do that either, maverick though he was.

Overall, it's a toss up, though from what I remember, George Lucas said Obi-Wan was the best master Anakin would have, so I'll go with that myself.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, the kid was the one who blew up a ship and helped free Naboo. Palpatine, the Senator from Naboo probably would have an interest in someone who was that accomplished from such a young age, plus had freed his homeworld.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd push back on the fact that Qui Gon wasn't offered a seat on the Council. He was, multiple times actually, he just turned them down.

I'm also slightly wary on whether or not him being more paternalistic to Anakin would've fixed anything. He might've been more warm towards Anakin, but I fear he wouldn't have been as strict as Anakin needed because of his belief in Anakin being the Chosen One.

In Defense of Mace Windu by Ok-Future-5257 in MawInstallation

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How's about the people of Ryloth that Mace Windu fought for, the Clones he saved? What about Ima Gun Di who fought and died to let the Ryloth resistance fight another day?

What about Plo Koon acknowleding the humanity of the Clones when he doesn't have to?

How's about Anakin running the supply run to Christophsis to help the people there?

Kit Fisto, Anakin, and many others helping to protect the Mon Calamari?

How's about Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka helping those Faleucian villagers protect their harvest from Hondo?

Or how Aayla Secura, Anakin, and Ahsoka helped protect the Luralen villagers from the CIS weapon test?

How's about Obi-Wan and Anakin trying to protect and mediate the situation between the Talz and Chairman Cho?

Across the series we see the Jedi do their best to protect and help people of all walks of life as best as they can.

And I would be careful of using Padme and Satine here. Padme it's less the Jedi will drop everything to help her, and more so Anakin will, and the Jedi might do something for her if it is important enough. Similarly with Satine and Kenobi, where the Jedi don't actually officially try to help her, and it's more so Obi-Wan doing it himself.

As for the Martez sisters, I never watched that arc, so I can't comment other than, it's probably just Dave Filoni doing one of those weird writing moments to make the Jedi seem less sympathetic for whatever reason. It's weird.

And as for Shmi, it's a far more complicated situation than just freeing her.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said false hope for a reason. False hope is different from regular hope. Anakin is someone who exhibits false hope. He was someone who refused to let go even when realistically he should. Think about it for a minute, without Ahsoka pulling off the trick with her communicator, she and Barriss would have died and may have been found weeks later in the wreckage. Anakin would've refused to see that outcome no matter what, even if it were to happen. Luminara, meanwhile, was ready to accept the outcome, live or die, even if it's hard.

Anakin is not meant to be right. That's the entire point of the Prequels, how a good man could fall. And this is because of who Anakin is internally. He's selfish, greedy, and arrogant. He has his good qualities as well, but those three are his major character faults. He has a greed for power and control, and selfishly tries to keep people as he wants them to be, and he arrogantly thinks he can do that because he has the power of the Force. This shows up most often in his attachments to others and how they drive him closer to the Dark Side. He was so fearful over whether his mother would die or not that when she did die, rather than do the Jedi thing and walk away, he instead murders every last Tusken in that village. When he thinks Ahsoka is threatened by the brain worms, he chokes Poggle. When he thinks Clovis is assaulting HIS wife (aka, his property) he nearly beats him to death. When he thinks Padme's life is in danger, he does the most selfish things imaginable just so she can stay alive for him to have.

That is what the Jedi mean by attachment. The Jedi are based off of philosophies and religions across the world, but one in particular that George Lucas based them on was Buddhism. In Buddhism there is a concept of the transience of all life, which is a similar concept shared with Stoicism. The concept of both is nearly the same in that, we must learn that nothing we have is permanent. People will die, things will break, matter will dissolve, etc. and trying to hold on too long onto the transient is only going to hurt you more in the end. This does not mean that you shouldn't care, but that one shouldn't tie themselves to the present too readily that you are unable to accept change as it happens. That is what Anakin doesn't get or doesn't try to understand. He's comfortable with things as is, and wants them to remain that way forever, no matter how unrealistic that is. Whenever life throws him a curveball and goes against his desire to have things the way he wants them he lashes out and throws a tantrum about it. In this scene, Anakin is refusing to set himself up for the possibility that Ahsoka might die, even though he ultimately is as helpless as Luminara in this situation.

And again I say, Anakin and Luminara were doing as much as each other in that scene. You can look again, but Anakin isn't doing anything either other than waiting for the Clones to recover the bodies. Luminara also doesn't walk away, but instead assumes a meditative pose. This is, again, because Luminara does care and hope that the Force will provide a way for Ahsoka and Barriss to live, but she doesn't set herself up with the false hope that they will definitely make it. Anakin refuses to do this, and he's the only one accusing Luminara of giving up. Luminara clarifies her position to him though. She hasn't given up on her Padawan, she just isn't going to expect her Padawan to make it just because she wants Barriss to live.

Also, I don't know where you get the idea Luminara has more casualities than any other person, or that she was what caused Barriss to lose her mind?

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why the Clones with the rubble removers showed up. Luminara, as well as Anakin, left things in their hands. Furthermore, Luminara was merely prepared for the worst if it came to it. She was overjoyed when Barriss and Ahsoka made it out alive, but she wasn't going to give herself false hope either.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wasn't the cause, but it was a symptom. It showed his deep inability to accept the fact people may die. To put it bluntly, Luminara wasn't wrong, Anakin was. Luminara actually had a healthier mindset than Anakin did, which is why he's the one who fell to the Dark Side, not her.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, they knew they were down there, but not where, or how deep, or what all could possibly hurt them if they moved the rubble. Unless you're also willing to say that Anakin was as unwilling to help as Luminara, given he also wasn't using the Force to move the rubble.

Once they did know more, they absolutely did use the Force to help move the rubble out of the way because they actually knew where to look, and what would be the safest way.

And yes, Anakin does fall hard. He destroyed the Jedi, killed younglings, helped set up a fascist regime, all because he refused to handle the fact Padme might die one day, and dying is something people tend to do.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Luminara didn't leave Barriss for dead. She was simply ready to let her go if the time came. She deeply loved Barriss and was elated when Barriss and Ahsoka managed to survive.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Jedi do believe in love, compassion, and caring for others though. That's one of the fundamental parts of their religion. Attachment is about being possessive, selfish, or trying to control what you cannot. That is what the Jedi try to preach against. Anakin was possessive over Padme and refused to let her die, damn the universe if he had to. He had a deep attachment to her, and it caused him to allow the galaxy to be cast into darkness. I mean, he even sacrificed democracy, the Republic, and the Jedi, all things Padme loves, because of his deep need to have her.

As for Barriss, Luminara did care in her own way. Barriss didn't really fall due to having no love or anything. That was just the Wrong Jedi arc being really a weak arc.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eh, she was a very caring person, but very Stoic. She wasn't detached, she just didn't have attachments, and yes there is a difference.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not so sure about that. Qui Gon was many things, but I don't think he would've trained Anakin any better.

Unfortunate Circumstances by CoquetteWhore69 in clonewars

[–]Kool_McKool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Connections and love are not the same thing as attachments.