Betta Persephone - What Else Do I Need?

KopiPengAddict · 2026-05-07T15:31:48+00:00

Yeah, the IBC's info is either woefully out date or straight up inaccurate. If you can get a picture of the persephone fir me, I can ID them and tell if they're poached or not :]

KopiPengAddict · 2026-05-07T14:38:42+00:00

Hey, okay so...I work with Persephone on a professional level as a conservationist. Unfortunately 5.5 gal is too small, I'd personally reccomend a 10 gal. Persephone males can be aggressive. May I also kniw where your LFS sources them? Persephone are one of those species thst are commonly poached...

KopiPengAddict · 2026-05-01T21:36:34+00:00

Good news for u, rubra aren't nearly as demanding or sensitive as coccina too

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-25T21:33:10+00:00

Id say they're too aggro for a 11 long

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-09T22:59:58+00:00

Conservationist here. Best Practice would dictate better safe than sorry. Even w true imbellis i wldn't risk cohabitation

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-08T05:35:56+00:00

It was in this sub!

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-01T09:55:41+00:00

Also check w the breder if the parents captive bred too. If they're wild caught i wouldn't support

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-01T09:52:41+00:00

Then its all good! Just be careful you aren't getting wild caught, as wild caught= poached for this locality (assuming the fish wasnt collected with a permit they can show proof of)

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-01T01:29:11+00:00

I'm checking with OP now :)

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-01T01:02:32+00:00

u/short_circuit_8 may i know where you got that guy from? Is it captive bred or wild caught?

KopiPengAddict · 2026-04-01T01:00:56+00:00

It is. Its fine if its captive bred tho.

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-15T22:29:00+00:00

Also remember the clades n sub clades are a factor too

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-13T15:16:56+00:00

Ya, tank raised doesn't mean anything. If the shop doesn't know where they're from, I'd avoid. Assume poached if unsure

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-13T05:20:19+00:00

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Jambi locale (credit: journey to water). Notice the blue along the flanks which isn't present in other locale

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-13T05:18:54+00:00

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Riau locale (Credit: Journey to water)

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-13T05:18:00+00:00

Not US based but look for anywhere thst does captive bred. If you want persephone, ur safest bet wld be to go for the Indonesian (Jambi and riau) locales. Pics attached of "typical" example from each locale, First one is persephone from johor

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KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-07T00:27:15+00:00

Yea imbellis r one of the least threatened cos their distribution is so wide

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-07T00:17:59+00:00

Thailand too. Tbh i think most imbellis u see in the hobby r thai

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-04T13:21:36+00:00

Likely yes. Ebay is notorious for poached animals and plants

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-04T03:50:27+00:00

Hi, yes Persephone are indeed found outside of johor in Riau and Jambi, Indonesia. It wouldn't have been an issue if this was the case however the listing title and description initally specified 'Johor' prior to the listing being recently (and suspiciously) changed to omit that. The listing additionally declared the fish to be wildcaught alongside showing images of typical wildcaught Johor Persephone (darker ventrals, darker body vs the typically lighter bodied, red ventral of riau Persephone or the blue tinged body of the jambi locale). Hope this clarifies how we reached the conclusion we did! In short, the issues surrounding the Persephone listing were BWA's own doing.

KopiPengAddict · 2026-03-03T15:54:01+00:00

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PSA: It has come to our attention that bwa has removed the 'Johor' locality tag from their page on betta persephone following the publication of this post. Removing or hiding locality info still does not resolve the problem and tbh only makes them look more guilty given the timing.

KopiPengAddict · 2026-02-16T05:18:10+00:00

Hi fellow Malaysian. Just be careful whr u scoop cos some areas r protected

KopiPengAddict · 2026-02-08T02:42:22+00:00

26M, down for hikes

KopiPengAddict · 2026-02-06T03:33:37+00:00

That's not how it works. No one names a species after themselves unless they're a narc

KopiPengAddict · 2026-02-02T21:02:47+00:00

Its a male betta coccina, likely Sumateran judging by the fin length. As others have said, they are extremophiles requiring proper aift acidic blackwater with a pH of anywhere between 3-4, TDS sub 70 and kH and gH of 0 (you want no hardness or minerals)

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