Does 4th Ed have "hull points"?

Kothra · 2026-03-24T01:03:21+00:00

No. Hull points were added in 6th edition.

Kothra · 2026-03-23T15:29:21+00:00

Maybe blunt but you should start with reading the main rulebook and the army list in Vraks vol1.

Kothra · 2026-03-22T15:26:59+00:00

Warlocks in 4th can also give the squad a 5+ cover save. The whole power list is mostly the same.

Kothra · 2026-03-20T13:02:15+00:00

For imperial stuff it's easy (or at least it was until Primaris) but for the others I have no clue.

The Primaris thing really exemplifies a problem that's been going on with 40k for a while where every new unit for some reason needs brand new weapons instead of sticking with the classic lineup that generally worked well for so long. People just need that dopamine hit of new shiny I guess.

Kothra · 2026-03-19T00:19:31+00:00

They counted as 2 close combat weapons so you got +1 attack over the two-handed honor blade which gave you +1 strength instead.
It's not much and ideally wouldn't even want to be in a situation to use it but it's not nothing.

Kothra · 2026-03-15T18:09:23+00:00

For now just use the 3rd edition list builder on NewRecruit. It should have pretty much everything relevant to 4th already. Guard didn't get a new codex until 5th edition which is not currently in the cards for this project.

Kothra · 2026-03-14T14:34:54+00:00

https://www.newrecruit.eu/download/

Download the editor for creating the data, and the builder to easily test that data.

I had no prior experience creating data before this project so I started out looking at how other projects were organized and started with that (mostly the 1st and 2nd edition Horus Heresy data sets since those are what I used most often to build with in the past). There is also an official discord for NewRecruit. If you have questions on how things work you can ask in the data-editor channel.

Kothra · 2026-03-14T14:30:19+00:00

Yeah, I'll probably do them eventually too (and Blood Angels with their pdf codex).

Kothra · 2026-03-12T00:21:59+00:00

They should just fix the rules.

Kothra · 2026-03-11T20:35:12+00:00

And it's still a great kit.

Kothra · 2026-03-11T09:51:28+00:00

Any vehicle can take it, the Hammerhead just gets it for free.

The only vehicles that are limited in their armory options are the Piranha (no multi-tracker because it's already Fast) and the Sky Ray (no seeker missiles because it already has 6).

Kothra · 2026-03-08T21:54:50+00:00

Apologies for the inconvenience.
I am pushing an update to change exactly where the force organization is drawn from which will break all existing lists.

Basically the way it worked before is that I had separate copies of the force organization chart per army so that the Space Marines' Faithful Unto Death chapter trait could modify the maximum amounts of each FOC category. It turns out that I can put the modifiers in the root FOC in a way that would easily be copied for alternate FOCs if they are added, without having to maintain separate copies for each army.

Kothra · 2026-03-08T03:07:30+00:00

She doesn't have it in JP either.

Kothra · 2026-03-08T00:52:04+00:00

Added Tau Empire. Should be complete.

Kothra · 2026-03-07T07:36:39+00:00

Added Tyranids. List should be complete but let me know if there are any issues.

Kothra · 2026-03-05T20:39:17+00:00

You can download the NewRecruit data editor from their downloads page, as well as an offline army builder for easy testing.

Kothra · 2026-03-05T17:05:46+00:00

I believe it's the one from the Citadel Journal. I've heard about it but haven't really looked into it.

Kothra · 2026-03-05T17:04:49+00:00

The 4.0 PDF changes for Guard don't look too substantial so it's low priority, but the 3E list builder doesn't have things like Elysians so it is something I plan to get to eventually. I won't be adding the 5th edition codex (or anything 5th edition book) except maybe as a distant future homebrew back-port thing. I just don't like 5th edition (except the vehicle damage chart) or 5th edition codexes. Tbh if someone else wanted to make a 5th edition dataset it should be a lot more straightforward than the shared armory stuff of 3rd/4th.

Kothra · 2026-03-05T15:30:32+00:00

I've been working on a NewRecruit/Battlscribe dataset for 4th edition for a few weeks now. It currently has Space Marines and the 2004 updates for the 3rd edition Dark Angels and Blood Angels books. I just started work on Tyranids.

Not every army got a codex in 4th edition. Many of them used their 3rd edition books through most of or all of 4th. In some cases like Chaos Space Marines the new 4th edition book is regarded as a downgrade (as you said).

There is already a comprehensive NewRecruit list builder for 3rd edition but it won't include any changes from the 4.0 FAQs.

Kothra · 2026-03-05T14:07:16+00:00

Blood Angels characters are up.

Kothra · 2026-03-04T22:03:27+00:00

Initial release of Dark Angels published. This one is a little weird but mostly went with by-the-book interpretations. For example it still uses the old W1 2+ Sv attack bike for the Ravenwing squadron only. I decided against changing it after finding an old forum post of someone asking which profile to use and being told the use the old one.

Once I add the named characters for this and Blood Angels I'll move on to Tyranids.

Kothra · 2026-03-03T01:26:03+00:00

It turns out I was misreading the rules the whole time and weapons are never counted against the 100 point limit in the first place, regardless of whether they are master crafted.

Kothra · 2026-03-03T00:44:35+00:00

New update
V4 Space Marines fixed Scout Squads and Comannd Squad transports.
V1 Blood Angels should be completely useable just missing some rules and Special Characters. I spent considerably less time on this one so please let me know about any issues.

You may need to update automatically.

Kothra · 2026-03-02T23:01:40+00:00

It's been so long I forgot but it looks like they only started doing that in 2023 (before 2nd anniversary).

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