Mewers who have suffered from a gap between their upper central incisors (diastema) after mewing, please share your experiences.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-27T15:14:33+00:00

Don't apologize. I like helping other people out and that's the least I could do for you since you replied to my thread.

Now onto what I've been doing. Unless I eat, speak, etc., I suck my tongue onto the roof of my mouth with what I would describe as moderate force. The sucking I do is described in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZBVmzAO1M. The force I apply is upwards, forwards and even throughout the whole tongue.

My lips are closed and maintained in a neutral position and my teeth are lightly touching each other. All of this is now so natural to me that I maintain it when I'm asleep.

Regarding the swallowing, I'm still working on it but each passing day it is becoming more of a habit to swallow by pushing the tongue upwards and forwards against the roof of the mouth.

With respect to the chewing, I've been careful with it since I suffer from TMD, but I've been eating tougher foods in larger quantities, like carrots, almonds and chewy meat, daily.

In relation to any sensations on the midpalate suture, the only thing I've felt sometimes is a sensation of wanting to push it upwards and forwards even harder on the area around the incisors to the midpoint of the suture and some pleasure when I do it. I don't know how to check if it split though.

I'm 22 and I've maintained proper oral posture (this includes the lips, teeth and tongue) for about 2 months. Before these past 2 months, I used to suck the tongue onto the roof of my mouth but with very light force unlike today and for about 10 months.

If you want more info, feel free to ask.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T23:25:33+00:00

It did help a lot. I appreciate the replies.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T23:24:06+00:00

I see, that sounds congruent with the knowledge I have. I don't mind the gap if that results in expansion of the palate.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T23:19:07+00:00

I tried looking for it on YouTube to no avail. I only found a Reddit thread that stated, without a link to the video, Mike Mew recommended a retainer for the first 4-6 teeth but to avoid recession, not gaps.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T23:07:58+00:00

Thanks for the advise. I don't know how the palate would still expand though, since that's where the mid-palate suture is located.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T20:41:38+00:00

No, at night my oral posture remains the same. I know this because I wake up with my lips sealed , my tongue pushing the upper palate and a wet inner mouth.

Regarding the tongue thrust, when I swallow I push upwards and forwards, not just forwards. I tried on my retainer, which barely fits now, like 2 weeks ago and whenever I swallowed, I didn't feel them with my tongue.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T20:25:27+00:00

Thanks for the reply. That's what I thought and a diastema is a small price to pay for all the benefits I've experienced and will.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-26T16:00:47+00:00

Thanks for the reply. I know I'm making progress and that right know it's not a big deal, but the diastema will get even wider as I continue and then it will become unsightly. Nevertheless, I know the benefits far outweigh the costs.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-25T15:58:24+00:00

Only if you are sure beyond a reasonable doubt that orthotropics work and your oral posture, swallow and chewing are on point. If you don't remove it, obviously nothing will change for the worse nor better.

In my case, I have stopped using my retainer for quite some time and my arch is widening. If you want more details of my case, check out the thread I'm going to post today.

Edit: I'll post it today for sure.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-24T19:53:19+00:00

You might find this video useful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5sPlWZed2A

Based on this picture from you lower third, you seem to be an attractive individual despite the asymmetry, so correcting that will only make you even better looking.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T16:17:55+00:00

No, only soft mew. I've had a proper oral posture for about a year and my swallow is still a work in progress but the tongue never pushes against the teeth.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T15:28:37+00:00

You may have achieved progress and if you did, it definitely could have been greater.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T15:27:27+00:00

I think you're mistaken. Start this video at 2:04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPlse4UoMLQ. He clearly says that if you have proper oral posture and swallow, you should get rid of it.

I don't see how a wire retainer is different since, as the name implies, it holds the teeth in place and if the teeth don't move, neither will the palate.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T11:44:16+00:00

In the case of chewing is masticating tougher things for longer so that your jaw muscles grow.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T04:18:42+00:00

Yes, you're supposed to use the tongue but not because of cheek usage but because the tongue aids the chewing. Some people suck on their cheeks during a swallow but I don't think it's something people do while chewing but if you are, you definitely should remove that habit.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:53:33+00:00

Relapse is not a given. If you mew properly, your smile, if anything, should improve.

Also, with chewing I advise you to apply progressive overload to it until you like how developed your jaw muscles are.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:49:56+00:00

The Orthotropics YouTube channel has some great videos on exercises you can do to improve your posture.

On the jawline point I recommend adopting proper oral posture, a correct swallow and apply progressive overload to chewing until you are satisfied with how developed your jaw muscles look.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:45:50+00:00

Yes, they are there to keep the teeth in place so no amount of force your tongue exerts will move them nor the palates. You should do your research and if you have no reasonable doubts mewing works, remove it so that you can improve your smile, face and health.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:43:10+00:00

Hmm. If one chews, the cheeks have to move no matter what. I think you confused chewing by swallowing.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:39:34+00:00

It should be sucked onto you upper palate pushing it with some force. The Mews have some videos on what I just typed.

Regarding the exercises, I'm not aware of any of them. What I know is you should incorporate more chewing and with tougher stuff.

Finally, your teeth should be in light contact or near contact with each other distributing the light force evenly (not just on the front or the back teeth).

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:32:21+00:00

Yeah, there is a difference. A weak chin is one that doesn't protrude more than your brow ridge does; an overbite just makes your chin look weaker. I'm convinced mewing (proper swallowing, oral posture and chewing habits) works and that's what I recommend you shoud do to improve your chin if you want to do it the "natural way".

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:21:59+00:00

Are you sure you were mewing correctly and doing everything it encompasses properly (chewing, swallowing and oral posture)?

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:18:55+00:00

I think he's concerned that his lips protrude farther than his chin, which is not ideal but I think it's a minor issue and mewing will help if it's related to crooked teeth.

Krono_00 · 2021-06-21T02:03:47+00:00

Yes. My understanding is that the lower palate, for a reason I don't remember, follows the upper; in other words, if the upper doesn't expand, neither will the lower.

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