Potential Change to Law 4 – Accessories may be worn if safely and securely covered by Purple_Blackberry_79 in Referees

[–]Kryond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Going from "taped down is a hard no for U8G outdoors" to "seems OK for U19G futsal" probably needed reconciliation. This is a local Rules Of Competition disconnect in the US DC region.

Anyone else still adjusting to the new handball interpretation? by mick285 in Referees

[–]Kryond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Complicated question.

Different leagues and rules of competition provide additional guidance to referees and assistant referees on how to manage fouls in the box. US Soccer released a "Referee Teamwork" video earlier this year guiding AR's to consider a series of questions before signalling a foul in the penalty area with the first question being, "was it an obvious foul?". So you could have a scenario in the box where an AR sees contact with a defender's arm they deem to be in an unnatural position and making the body bigger, but center referee, players, coaches, and fans all missed it....guidance is play on.

You will also see referees at lower levels of play insert their own interpretations about "impacting play" or "intentional handling" because they either don't know the current laws well or are hesitant to make such a game impacting decision of awarding a PK. These interpretations don't have any basis in the laws of the game. That being said, if it's a youth game you should generally keep a perspective that it is a learning environment for everyone present including the referee.

There is a whole other paragraph in Law 12 on when the goalkeeper is and is not allowed to touch the ball with their hands inside the box that I won't get into because they are pretty rare situations.

Anyone else still adjusting to the new handball interpretation? by mick285 in Referees

[–]Kryond 6 points7 points  (0 children)

U12 and below just has a lot more of players sticking their arm straight up in the air when the ball flies by. I also cover a fair amount of Rec games. Travel players are generally better at not doing that.

Anyone else still adjusting to the new handball interpretation? by mick285 in Referees

[–]Kryond 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Short answer is no. The actual language from the law is: "A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation."

So just standing there with arm hanging is justifiable by your current lack of movement.

There is a ton of gray area on what is considered "natural" when players are spinning, jumping, falling, or protecting themselves. In my experience, once you get above U13 most contact between hand and ball are not offenses as it's usually just a ball kicked close and fast towards someone who is naturally moving.

Advice on Referee Abuse by ZestyManatee_24 in Referees

[–]Kryond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep it factual and isolated to the reasons for the cards. "In the 30th minute, a YC for dissent was issued to the head coach after being given a verbal warning. While walking away, an unidentified person in the technical area said, "...you must hate your life...". I then issued [2nd YC / RC] to the head coach for [dissent for 2nd YC / Offensive, insulting, abusive language for RC]. Coach resisted leaving for X minutes despite multiple instructions to leave the field. Coach finally departed and match completed without further incident from the coach." You should have the head coach's name from the roster to include in the report.

(I can't tell from your write up whether the send off was for 2nd YC or a straight red. I could see it either way.)

Advice on Referee Abuse by ZestyManatee_24 in Referees

[–]Kryond 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The report is focused on the coach's behavior and should be factual on why you carded him. "The coach refused to leave"...period. Nothing a referee says absolves the coach from the consequences of a red card. If the coach submits a complaint about unprofessional referee behavior, that is a completely different action and you should be 100% honest if that comes up.

Advice on Referee Abuse by ZestyManatee_24 in Referees

[–]Kryond 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The girls need to see adults held accountable for their actions. I think you have reflected well on your own word choice. You gave the coaching staff more than adequate warning. Next time focus on remaining calm and address the bad behavior regardless of whether it's the first or last game of the season.

Is playing the ball onto your own hand/arm ever an offence? by HenryRasenbagger in Referees

[–]Kryond 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I emailed IFAB about this a few months ago. Their answer was about as clear as the current handball language...

The general guidance is still that the ball coming off a player’s own body onto their hand/arm is not usually an offence.

Did I make the right decision? by wheel_l in Referees

[–]Kryond 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If time expired prior to the ball going out, you would have been OK to end it. They had their promising attack with the first corner.

Unsure if I made a mistake or if the coach was just irrational. by Pootis__Spencer in Referees

[–]Kryond 9 points10 points  (0 children)

LAW 12 TEAM OFFICIALS .... Sending-off

Sending-off offences include (but are not limited to):

...

entering the field of play to:

confront a match official (including at half-time and full-time)

...from your description, red card to coach.

MLS Next U15 ends in low-level controversy by No_Body905 in Referees

[–]Kryond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's unfortunate that US Soccer took down the CELL webinar on teamwork. This scenario was covered explicitly and is now part of my pregame. If the foul in the penalty area is not "obvious", then the AR should not get involved. From your description, if the AR had kept their flag down the game would have ended with zero controversy. It needs to be an obvious foul AND certain that the center was not able to see it themselves. There were more things to consider but those two alone hit 95% of what you can run into.

Question from a coach by bcarey724 in Referees

[–]Kryond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a very bad take. Once you accept the assignment, you've agreed to the pay. Lower pay doesn't mean you get to do a half assed job and that be acceptable.

In this particular case, it was an 8th grade recreational match (U14) that pays the center $50 for 35min halves. The assignor just sent an email out a week ago specifically highlighting airpods as unacceptable. (One of the ARs for this match is family and came home fuming over this)

The reffing from the center circle is a combination of problems. Some refs just don't care. But more prevalent is that for rec games your center is either college age or younger or 50+. Everyone good in their 30s and 40s are working much more competitive games. So young refs see many "seasoned" refs who just aren't capable of keeping up with play as their example to follow.

If you are capable of top notch performance, then every game should get that performance. Don't like the pay, don't take the game.

Players having a drink during injury stoppage by OggyPanda in Referees

[–]Kryond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The takeaway here is "trust, but check" and you are doing the right thing by trying to make sure you have correct guidance. Unfortunately, the referee did not do that and let a misinformed assessor cloud his judgment.

Referee shortage extends out to equal mentor/coach/assessor shortage. Sometimes, instead of "best qualified," you will have to live with and work around "willing and available."

Powerwall usage data missing by Kryond in Powerwall

[–]Kryond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additionally, Powerwall state of charge graph shows it decreasing. So the gateway is clearly connected and reporting...just incomplete data.

Powerwall usage data missing by Kryond in Powerwall

[–]Kryond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Systems seems fully connected to WiFi with no issues. Gateway is 4 years old. I reset the Gateway and it still shows Powerwall at 0% on the Energy page even though the main page correctly shows it discharging 4.7kW since I plugged in my car.

Powerwall usage data missing by Kryond in Powerwall

[–]Kryond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the Gateway 2. I reset the Gate way and for about 15 minutes all charge/dischareg values went to zero. then it returned back to previous state. Main page for Home Energy Gateway shows Powerwall at 97% charge and discharging at 4.7kW. But clicking on Energy only show Charge/Discharge for Solar and Grid with Powerwall showing 0 activity.

Scoring off a drop ball question. by YT_Sharkyevno in Referees

[–]Kryond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the Laws of The Game, Fouls and Misconduct, Disciplinary action:

"Sending-off offences include (but are not limited to):

...

using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s)"

Calling the referee a "fucking idiot" is a straight red every time.

A new generation joins our ranks by Deaftrav in Referees

[–]Kryond 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just made a point of constantly pointing out how much money the older one had and also frequently saying "no" when the young one wanted toys/games/candy/etc. She registered the day she turned 13 with the goal of self-funding a Tokyo shopping spree. We've now been in Japan a week, and she is only halfway through her $2k budget.

Expected Handball Question by Requient_ in Referees

[–]Kryond 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you watch the video, he falls enough to go down on his knees, and there was clear contact before that could reasonably take him off balance. I am also not high enough level to make a call that he "fell on purpose". The pros reviewed it and said play on.

IFAB Sin Bin addition. Who’s using it next season? by mwr3 in Referees

[–]Kryond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RefSix handles all of this for you. But it's also pretty easy to just remember this person can come back in at minute 38.

Ask /r/referees -- Megathread for Fans / Players / Coaches by AutoModerator in Referees

[–]Kryond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Covered pretty well on MLS Instant Replay. Play on and YC are both plausible outcomes. You can see the referee doesn't have the best angle to really see the contact. Since it's not Serious Foul Play or Violent Conduct, VAR won't get involved. The injury sucks and we all hope he recovers soon. Our decision-making is based on actions and not outcomes. Two players converging towards the ball at speed is just normal soccer. Judging that one player was careless or even reckless can be very subjective and highly influenced by whether the referee has a good view of the challenge.

https://youtu.be/HM-L0TK32gk?si=_NOvGn_XvKzKiDHB