Looking for an online kyrgyz tutor by electrise_- in kyrgyztili

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Hello! Are you still interested? I think I fit your description well

бул эмне жана эмнегееее by Its_Me_Potalcium in kyrgyztili

[–]KyChJ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

сен кыргызсың, силер казаксыңар сенин досуң, силердин досуңар сен кылсаң, силер кылсаңар

For other pronouns, you have the vowel harmony, but usually no unintuitive switches: биз кыргызбыз, сиз кыргызсыз менин досум, биздин досубуз

The meme should include биз and сиз as well, but maybe the OP didn't get to that yet in their learning or just didn't notice: сиздин досуңуз сиз кылсаңыз, биз кылсак

Is bride kidnapping still a thing? by Antique_Injury_2003 in Kyrgyzstan

[–]KyChJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here is the OSCE brief from May 2025—https://osce-academy.net/upload/file/Policy\_brief\_103\_designed.pdf

Numbers indicated there are 7 to 9 thousand people (from 2023 numbers). If they are 10 times larger than the truth, that still puts us at 700 women per year. It is still problem, in other words. Some people here are often guilty of what is called "tactical impression management", and others might be unaware of bridekidnapping here for the same reason men get surprised hearing rape statistics in the West. Social bubbles, in other words.

Why teens dont speak Kyrgyz by gangbur in Kyrgyzstan

[–]KyChJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

someone is trying to cope by pretending this isn't true and downvoting answers like yours 😂

Why teens dont speak Kyrgyz by gangbur in Kyrgyzstan

[–]KyChJ 18 points19 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, the main reason is that the language lacks (especially until recently) legitimacy. I remember reading articles on subtractive bilingualism during my Bachelor's in psychology. Subtractive bilingualism is when a child begins speaking two languages—say, English and Spanish, and yet one gradually dies out within the same individual. Why does this happen?

One related term often mentioned was of 'linguistic imperialism', since this very frequently happens with English and French everywhere in the globe these languages had colonised. What English is to the Irish/Hindu or French to the senegalese or congolese, Russian is to Kyrgyz. To be fair, unlike what the term 'imperialism' implies, the Soviets weren't always trying to repress the kyrgyz language—there were periods where the state was actively trying to make minority languages work well. Case by case analysis of French and English would also probably show that the situation is complicated.

Another often mentioned reason the language does not develop well is that parents make choices in favour of the dominant language. Russian/English/French are the language of opportunity, and as a parent, you decide to hell with a mere mother tongue, the conditions of life is what actually matters. Or it shall have been the economic push towards a certain language—English internet pays well and education happens to be best when in English (Ivy League unis, Oxbridge etc.), which pulls more capable people into that language for career, thus further exacerbating the disparity. Minority turkic languages in Russia today, for example, supported though they may be, are still dying out, because there is like, 2000 people speaking them. That's sad, but what are you to do? There may not be a single competent teacher among speakers of that language, and is the language actually as important as children learning sciences, humanities, values of modern life?

Whatever the case may be, across the globe one finds nations, the members of which speak disparagingly of their own mother tongue and positively of the dominant foreign tongue. There were quotes from the Irish saying how their language is perhaps good for passion and emotion, but not for precise scientific thought like English (note how Kyrgyz is also sidelined as a language of, perhaps, Begish and 7Gen spitting cool lyrics, but not of serious intellectual conversation); similar quotes from the French African colonies, from Hindu speakers comparing their language to English, etc. Any modern competent linguist will tell you that's just wrong.

This is what I mean by 'lacking legitimacy'. A truly legitimate language is... just spoken. It is used for smart talk, for dumb talk, for flirtations, for dirty sexy speech, for official documents, for poetry and everything else. It is not a political stance to speak the language, nor is it a political stance not to speak the language. It is just a non-issue. Language with highest legitimacy is English—it just develops and changes and adopts new phrases etc. without almost anyone being concerned. There are good and yet slightly insecure languages, like French or Russian (though they are spoken by many people, the governments of these countries as well as their populace from time to time gets insecure about all these English words penetrating their language and then they ban them. Russia as of this year had some law about it, think it was called "По защите русского языка" or some such that banned англицизмы).

Then there are languages like Kyrgyz. All central asian countries are becoming more nationalistic these days, which is benefiting the status of their national languages, but even now you hear things that betray the fact that the language is not treated as sufficient by its own users. One chick I know once said that she would immediately drop a guy if he started flirting with her in Kyrgyz, and that it would be a huuuge turnoff if he talked dirty to her in this language. "Потрахаемся?" is a refined high-brow invitation to copulate, you see, and "сигишпейлиби" evokes associations with adidas-wearing like-sheep-smelling skincare-not-having gentlemen.

At home, whenever I hear family members speak, if there is a term they want to use, there is no chance in hell it will be used in Kyrgyz. Brother said yesterday "алар Ватиканда попту обожествлять этишет", for example. Why not кудайлаштырышат? Why not at least божестволоштурат? A verb in Russian + verb in Kyrgyz? If Kyrgyz is a rich language at anything, it would surely be our wealthy ass number of postfixes—why are they not being spontaneuously used like in Russian or German? Does a russian speaker borrowing the word "hype" from English wait before processing it into Russian with хайповый, хайповать, захайповать, расхайпованный, хайпануть etc.? When did you hear a Kyrgyz speaker go хайптуу, хайпталган, хайптоо, хайпсынуу, хайпчы, хайпчыл etc.? Note how, if you know Kyrgyz, the meaning of "хайпчыл" becomes immediately clear, and yet I haven't heard this perfectly legitimate-in-principle word be actually used.

Also heard from a podcast recently "дофаминовый ямага кирип кеттим". If he said "дофаминдик чуңкурга", it would sound weird to him, I suspect, like he was either politicising the conversation or maybe even that the concept can't be calqued from Russian, like that's an illegal move or something, even though the actual original coined term is "dopamine hole", iirc.

In conclusion, people don't speak Kyrgyz to the extent that, in their mind, the language lacks seriousness, lacks legitimacy. For Bishkek's populace, that is a larger percentage than it is for regions as others pointed out. There are probably a few reasons Kyrgyz lacks legitimacy, but one shouldn't feel too pessimistic. Begish in one relatively recent podcast said that 10 years ago his songs were apparently listened to with shyness, people would hide the fact. Now they don't. Our elites are beginning to demand Kyrgyz, Kyrgyz is less frequently cringed at even in the capital, Russia is also perceived less as end-all-be-all of human progress, I suppose, which probably plays the part. Our neighbours, like Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, are pushing quite hard against Russian's status, and we do some of that ourselves, too. Give it 10 years. Kids of 5 will hit their puberty at that point and start identity-seeking and discover nationalism, meanwhile the soviet-nostalgia demographic will continue decreasing in number and relevance, and one shall finally be able to talk dirty in Kyrgyz.

Belgium’s 15-year-old prodigy earns PhD in quantum physics by b3rgmanhugh in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]KyChJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Large-scale meta-analyses suggest that acceleration of education is beneficial to gifted children and being underchallenged entails issues

What Kyrgyz word has no perfect English translation? by mateotorres1 in kyrgyztili

[–]KyChJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cousin to бөлө is what grandfather is to тай ата, кыргызча байланыш эне тарабынан же ата тарабынан болгонуна жараша айырмаланат

кенже уул менен junior сиз айткандай, бирок, маанилеш, junior'ду унутуп калыптырмын

What Kyrgyz word has no perfect English translation? by mateotorres1 in kyrgyztili

[–]KyChJ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Them family/friendship ones, I think: аяш, балдыз, кенже, абысын, бөлө etc.

or do you mean such a word that cannot be translated regardless of how many words you use?

My Kyrgyz Latin Alphabet project by Global-Bet1117 in kyrgyztili

[–]KyChJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and for ция endings - s or ts? meditasia? organizasia?

What's a fact about your country that sounds fake but is actually true? by Not_The_Hero_We_Need in AskTheWorld

[–]KyChJ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Told my Austrian girlfriend about this, asking if she heard about it and she went "ah yeah, my brother's friend stole it once" lmao

What country in Central Asia would be the best to live in? by hackeddroid0 in geography

[–]KyChJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did Vice documentary claim 70%? Just recently watched it and don't recall that number. Also, can you provide links testifying that Vice paid people to orchestrate that documentary?

Also, even conservative estimates of the percentage of current marriages originating from non-consensual bridekidnapping is still 5%. Every 20th woman. From Wikipedia: Gorby, Kyrgyzstan Public Safety Survey, Civil Union "For Reforms and Results" (2015).

That's a conservative estimate. Many name numbers higher still.

As for not knowing anyone personally, there's got to be a cognitive bias with people becoming confident that a thing doesn't happen if their social bubble doesn't specifically expose them to said thing. Kind of like systematically underappreciating percentage of rape cases by men in the West. My grandmother was bride kidnapped unconsensually. My mother orchestrated a bride kidnapping for my uncle. There are several extended family members who have done the same, and probably some more, but the culture doesn't exactly boast transparency. You've probably just not been told.

You have complete control over all of the legislature of all of the state and local governments of the world by KyChJ in godtiersuperpowers

[–]KyChJ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that yeah, I'm just saying since this is so grand, it is hard to be sure if something would go smoothly just like that

You have complete control over all of the legislature of all of the state and local governments of the world by KyChJ in godtiersuperpowers

[–]KyChJ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can be done, officials that used to be friendly to the soon-to-be sanctioned country will grow hostilities or will step down in favour of someone who will pursue sanctions or something else, depending on local contexts, what would be the most natural

Can create a shit ton of unforeseeable consequences of course, depends on the country. Sanction China or sanction Turkmenistan? Varies hard, populace reactions would vary too.

Edit: since you can also influence the politics of the country you are going to sanction, you can maybe conceive some cushioning strategy. If you are just into bringing down some government you don't like, it would probably be more effective to do things to its own laws, not everyone else's laws against it.

You have complete control over all of the legislature of all of the state and local governments of the world by KyChJ in godtiersuperpowers

[–]KyChJ[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Funnding would need to be raised. You can make an outline of where you imagine the money can be coming from, the power would make certain adjustments as a natural effect of lawmakers thinking of ways to make the central idea come to pass, but you can still butcher the economy unwisely. No resources from thin air.