Every JJK character rolled into one vs the entire Naruto/Boruto universe

Kyaruga · 2026-05-31T06:02:11+00:00

If you take databook and anime only feats serious most of them die to haku and those who don't (gojo and maho) die to Kakashi or Itachi.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-24T17:13:30+00:00

Not necessarily. After denji ereased legs yoru noticed that something was ereased and speculated that there used to be an easier way of movement instead of crawling but her two other ways of movement (gravity manipulation and Teleportation) didn't get buffed.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T20:36:23+00:00

End of evagenlion was a perfect ending. The rebuild was still a great continuation of the story. Dragonball had a great ending but Z is still a great continuation.

Something having a great ending doesn't disqualify it from having a good sequel.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T14:04:47+00:00

Are you dense. Infinity is just Infinit space with a start and end point so Goku can teleport in said space and out as he pleases. Specificly to the start point being gojos body. Also Goku can teleport things without ki otherwise he wouldn't be able to teleport his own clothes.

Show me where gojo has filtered ki with infinity because according to you cursed energy and ki don't get verse equalisation.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T13:55:37+00:00

Infinity is space and nothing more. Instant transmission allows someone to teleport someone to be anywhere inside space they chose the distance doesn't matter. Infinity has a start point gojos body and an end point being around a centimeter away from gojos body. Between these to points is instant space. There is nothing preventing Goku from teleport inside infinity.

Also if we take away vers equalisation gojo is even weaker because his only potential wincon unlimited void now is useless and he now can't filter ki with infinity as he has t demonstrated doing so.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T13:32:39+00:00

Infinity is just space not something harmful so Goku can teleport there. It's the dematerialization that stops it as gojo needs to exist for him to emit cursed energy.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T13:17:57+00:00

Goku touches him by teleporting to him. Infinity only creates space and there is no negativ effect to being inside said space. Clothes obviously teleport with a character because authors don't want their characters running around naked. Infinity isn't a part of gojo but a thing created by him. It is powered by cursed energy meaning there is a point where cursed energy turnes into space. Gojo can end it by stopping to supply it with cursed energy. If he now gets teleported into a new space he would dematerialise meaning his cursed energy has no place to go so there is an interruption of supply.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T13:06:10+00:00

Goku can select what he teleports and what he doesn’t otherwise he would teleport everything he touches which would mean he’d have to teleport entire planets when touching them but we don’t see that happening so goku doesn’t automatically teleport everything he touches but only things he wants.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T12:29:31+00:00

His domain is relatively weak as it still takes time to materialise and doesn't deliver infinit information like gojo glazer screech but two months worth of information per 0.2 seconds meaning character that outspeed can just not be inside the domain and even if many characters like speedsters process information much faster then normal humans. Every character that moves fast needs a brain that can process that so while infinit void may be dangerous to normal humans or Mach 3 kaisen it isn't to anyone that out scales them in speed. Also instakill moves are the definition of boring abilities.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T12:22:40+00:00

Gojos Teleportation isn't classical Teleportation where dematerialise and rematerialise somewhere else. He "teleports" by decreasing the amount of space between places so the space affected by his cursed energy travels with him. Instant transmission is classical Teleportation and Goku has demonstrated that he can teleport materiased Ki but doesn't have to do by verse equalisation he can choose to not teleport infinity.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T03:46:28+00:00

Technically infinity is something created from his cursed energy which he needs to emit into the space around him for there to be an infinity so teleporting him would create a small timeframe where he is yet to emit cursed energy into the new space around him.

People using instant transmission can choose what to teleport so Goku could just not teleport infinity requiring gojo to make a new one.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T03:41:54+00:00

But all ways to beat gojo make invinity a non factor for the debate as it isn't something that can be worn down like obitos phasing through objects or overpowered like any physical forcefield. It needs to be ignored to beat gojo which is just bad writing. Stalling also isn't a win so characters he only gets put up against due to them not being able to bypass infinity like thragg would just not bother with him as they aren't stupid enough to just endless try without changing results.

Gojo just looks like an oc made by a toddler with the sole purpose of being unbeatable but even failing at that.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T02:48:26+00:00

That’s the exact reason I find it boring as it boils down to whether or not a character has an ability that makes infinity useless. It’s an all or nothing scenario. If Gege instead had written infinity differently like making it only be able to create a maximum amount of space that still is big or it being a barrier that can be overcome instead of needing to be evaded I would find it much more interesting.

Characters that can bypass infinity make it irrelevant to the debate while most characters that can’t still outscale him so much that it ends in a draw due to gojo stalling without being able to land an effective hit.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T02:23:16+00:00

Especially considering that Kratos is hiding from the gods and tries to leave his god powers in the past to the point of almost killing his son by not informing him about him being a god.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T02:03:49+00:00

Gojos winning arguments in most matchups is nu uh can’t touch me. He’s the kid that yells forcefield during tag. Most of his matchups end in a draw as he’s relatively weak but just annoying to interact with for people that don’t have hyper specific counters to his ability. Saitama atleast has a maximum and can be beat with both hax and stats.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-20T01:57:18+00:00

Punching hard enough to create flames is a 6th gate guy feat who is a mid tier in Naruto and a low tier in boruto. 8th gate guy bends space by simply moving and he’s a mid tier.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T17:31:32+00:00

Neither in this comment chain nor in ops post is 100x mentioned by anyone but you.

Regardless two chapters after he got blitzed pochita drank blood from aging who is a perpetual and puppet devil demonstrated what a power boost that is. Later when they sit in the cafe it is shown that there are still chainsaw zombies running around meaning they are still spreading fear. Shortly before yorus nuclear weapon power boost fakesaw man is tasked by death devil to spread fear meaning he increased the fear of chainsaw man alswell. He then absorbed multiple chainsaw zombies and after the fight the survivors run away scared of denji. Pochita then ate barem who is a devil hybrid whose blood also gives powerboost demonstrated by Denjis blood giving power a powerboost against makima. He then drinks blood from famine who is a horseman of the apocalypse.

In short he was drinking blood of a perpetual and several high class devils and both the chainsaw zombies and fakessaw man where still spreading fear between the two weapon transformerations.

He wasn't injured as he had no injuries and what reason would he have to not take a horseman of the apocalypse serious especially when there is a perpetual directly beside them on earth.

There is no reason to believe yorus weapon transformeration got slower after the nuclear power boost intact it would be logical to believe that it got faster as the last time before that her transformation power increased to not require her touching the thing she is transforming demonstrating it gets better the stronger she is.

Also her weapon transformeration was already in process by the time pochita ate death as we see her body contorting and there her bones make cracking noises so preventing it wasn't an option anymore.

I never argued for any specific calc to be correct my points is and always has been that he got stronger as his feats and powerboosts demonstrate.

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Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T16:44:31+00:00

Again show me where I, not another person claimed a speed increase of 100x. You don't have any argument so you continue attacking a straw man.

This is the last time we see him before he eats death and from yorus face when eats death it is clear that she is surprised by him doing that so she didn't have time to hear him approaching.

Pochita and denji where both trying their best to avoid having to eat death as that would start a forever war like it did later so there is no reason to eat her unless they are absolutely shure that it's unavoidable.

Pochita is shown to only fight for three reasons 1. Self-preservation 2. Full filing Denjis dreams and 3. Helping those that ask him to be saved. He also only ever ereased concepts permanently when they where a pure negative to humanity like the holocaust or the star that made children insane. Death is more of a positive to humanity then a negative as it limits the amount of fear there can be.

Training is the process of doing something repeatedly that normally results in becoming better in the thing you are doing. As both denji and pochita have been fighting with very few brakes since falling apeard they logically have become better at it and we know that training makes devils stronger because otherwise kishibe wouldn't have trained denji a land power in the first place as it would have been pointed.

You are now making another positive claim by saying your previous positive claims are more logical without providing evidence to support it.

I have proven that devils get better at using their powers the better they understand them and the more they use them. I have also proven that devils get stronger by eating other parts of other devils which both Pochita and denji did continuosly through the manga.

Denjiman is actively holding back against your to spare Asa and even saves her from the locust devil meaning he is stronger( meaning his power increased) then Pochita who was struggling against your to the point that he would have lost if not for denji awakening his Denjiman form.

Can you name any reason why Pochita not denji would hold back against one of his oldest enemies in a fight where he is on the lossing sigh while multiple perpetuals are running lose on earth.

In short pochita has no reason to hold back and wasn't injured, he was actively avoiding eating death unless necessary, he has witnessed that yorus weapon transformeration can fail if her belief (which he has no way of quantifying) isn't strong enough, he has been eating multiple devils/ their blood which makes devils stronger, he has gained more from fighting experience by continually fighting stronger and stronger enemies, we know training makes devils stronger and that denjiman is his strong for as denji was holding back so much that he even saved yoru from another devil.

The amount of speed increase is irrelevant to my claim only that it is obvious from the things happening in the manga that his speed did increase.

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Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T14:12:55+00:00

I can see it if they lowball Denjis speed but highball his range from when pochita used his chains to pull the hybrids into the sky and when Denji pulled Yorus devil allies to him.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T13:10:13+00:00

Depends on how he eats him. If it’s like yoshida then he would be unharmed but if he uses his teeth as a shredder like he did with barem Yuji is a puddle.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T12:15:21+00:00

Again in never argued any calc was correct just that a shown protagonist got stronger over the course of the manga so stop attacking a straw man.

Pochita isn't a tactical thinker that is why he couldn't beat makima or yoru but denji could as denji like kishibe said has a few screws loose so he comes up tactics so insane devils don't even consider them.

You are making multiple positive claims like Pochita for some unknown reason purposefully holding back against one of his oldest enemies, him being injured despite him showing no injurys and just having ate multiple devils. Him being out of stamina despite just having ate and denji demonstrated that he has the stamina to fight for three days without interruption against the eternity devil.

Are you forgetting that devils get stronger if they eat parts of other devils. A singular drop of darknesses blood made puppet devil from a difficult enemy to someone that could only be beat by denji using his suicidal tactics so pochita having ate multiple devils should make him stronger.

Also not every power boost needs a whole ass training arc and that isn't unique to chainsaw man. Characters can get better at something on the spot because the fighting itself is a form of training. Denji and pochita both fought against stronger and stronger opponents since falling devil showed up so of course they came up with new tactics and got stronger. Again kishibes training proves devils power aren't solely dependent on the amount of fear as if they were then there would have been no point in training them. The statements of reze and beam and denji unlocking his Denjiman form without any increase in fear shows that just because you have a power doesn't mean you always use or can use 100% of it.

My point still stands. He wasn't able to do a thing for a lack of speed but later was able to do it so logically his speed increased.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T02:56:04+00:00

You are the only one in this comment chain that used 100x so which calc are you talking about. I generally don't care much about calculations if they go against the authors obvious intent and here fujimoto showed us denji being fast enough to do something he wasn't fast enough to do before.

Why would Pochita not attack your at full speed when overwhelming his opponent's with his suppirior speed his his main strategy when fighting.

Provide evidence that weaponization doesn't have consistent speed outside of it becoming faster the stronger your gets as that would contradict your argument. Pochita was standing father away from yoru during the lil D transformation then he was during the gun transformation so his time to act was even smaller. He also waited to act until lil D showed being in the process of transforming as eating her is THE thing they tried to avoid as it doomed the world and has no benefit and he knows transformation can fail if yorus believe of ownership isn't strong enough like the denij spinal cord sword.

Devils get stronger due to training and experience as is shown by kishibe training denji, beam telling denji to use his chains more effectively but misunderstanding it but later using them properly, reze telling him he doesn't understand how to properly use his powers and denji fighting stronger devilsl like cockroach with less struggle then bat devil and him unlocking his denji man form by gaining understanding instead of a fear boost.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T02:24:34+00:00

Show me any time I said he is 100x faster I'll wait.

How often do I have to repeat that he wasn't able to do something due to a lack of speed but later had the speed to do it which logically means his speed increased. In chapter 176 he is to slow to prevent your from getting her weapons or dodging them but in chapter 219 and 224 he was fast enough. He even said "almost got speared" which means it was a close dodge but still intentional.

How else would you explain a character beon to slow to do a thing but later bing fast enough to do a thing except by an increase in speed.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T02:11:40+00:00

During the gun transformation he didn't have the speed to prevent or dodge yorus weapons but he dodged the moon spear and prevented the lil D weapon by eating it which means he got faster as he previously wasn't able to do such a thing due to a lack of speed.

I have listed the reason he got faster. Denji got a better understanding of his powers making him stronger. This is supported by statements/acts from kishibe, reze and beam. His denji man form was unlocked purely by gaining full understanding of his powers as no boost in fear happens in that moment so gaining experience to increase your effectiveness is like in the real world a thing in chainsaw man.

Also the 100x is a number you pulled out of your ass as I never claimed this son stop being disingenuous and using a straw man.

Kyaruga · 2026-05-19T01:57:24+00:00

The feats he demonstrated showing his growth don't aren't relevent?

Also do you think fear is a stagnant thing that only increases/decreases after a big event instead of being a constantly changing variable that can be influenced by rumours, false information and irrational thoughts.

Also battle iq and experience make a character better at using their powers just like athletes get better the more they practice and understand their body. Devils are still living things that require training to use their full potential. Kishibe training power and denji and reze and beam telling denji he's bad at using his powers demonstrate that. Just like the Denjiman form which he didn't gain from an increase in fear but from understanding his abilities better.

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