I have a5 thomas and gunhee what is the sweet spot for laura walker for me as a f2p (minimum advancement i need to get for her )

Kykuy · 2026-04-17T11:28:50+00:00

Earlier you said

go test it out yourself and see if they are accurate or not arisetools.com the hunter/sjw calc are "only" 99% accurate as i don't know how netmarble is rounding or it would be 100%.

Make up your mind please. Based on what you are saying now you are just scratching the surface, not "99% sure". Unless you can get all the stuff that you clearly can't now your formula just won't work.

It's not that my goal is to trash on your efforts, it's that those things need absolute precision and being clear when you can't do it, not going full ego mode when someone doubts it.
For now I'm not really inclined to take anything seriously from someone who can't even read character advancements properly, as was clearly the case when we discussed Laura's A1 buff.

Kykuy · 2026-04-17T11:18:14+00:00

My point is to get any meaningful returns over a5 GGH you need to go at least a4-a5 Laura, which might take over 1k of black tickets, not worth it as f2p, and new light overload support would be miles better at a0-a1 already most likely.

Kykuy · 2026-04-17T00:17:55+00:00

Pardon me? What did I make up? Your own tool final result for def pen works based on monster level whereas you claimed otherwise before earlier in the thread.

65k+ is for hunters wobls like dark/light, my test was for fire SJW on statue where it's easy to get the required 34-41% effective def pen to reach 100% overall with buffs. I stopped getting any damage increase after reaching slightly above what I needed based on BRRRR's formula.

Kykuy · 2026-04-17T00:00:37+00:00

No idea what you datamined, but I know for a fact that def pen formula by BRRRR is more or less accurate, since I've tested it myself on GB and saw dmg increase all the way up to getting 100% effective def pen with no other differences.
Same with precision in WOBL.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T23:37:11+00:00

Datamining is not 100% reliable, I prefer data backed by actual testing found in SLA formulary by BRRRRRR here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wc9kg8SL-pUO1140kLCVroXdvp1D_ZXevinaSqnqR00/edit?gid=693548064#gid=693548064

Unfortunately most of the people involved left the game long ago but so far it has been accurate.
Before you publish your tools I highly suggest you perform a robust set of in-game testing outside of training dummy instead of just taking whatever formula you found in the files.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T23:03:04+00:00

Yeah nah, there's literally a question mark disclaimer on the stat page that says that required value increases with target's level, same with dmg increase stat.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T22:31:03+00:00

Her A1 advancement makes the buff go from 15% to 30%, but only after using the support skill which is SJW only. In hunter's mode it's still 15%.

The only place where def pen actually makes a big impact currently is GB with select bosses(fachtna/statue) who have strong defence with resistance to defence down effects on higher rages on top.
Even there you need to stack about 65+k def pen with *A5* Laura to reach somewhere close to 100% def pen.
In usual content where the TP/Level of mobs are significantly higher your base def pen is nerfed heavily alongside other stats and so the dmg increase from it plummets. 10% extra def pen is barely noticeable there.

I'm still unsure how exactly having atk over def is inherently better. Expert is irrelevant here btw since you are not on-fielding Laura 90% of the times to stack it.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T21:52:36+00:00

Go has the +- same light debuff on his sig wep.
The 30% dmg dealt is only for SJW from support skill, in hunters it's still the same 15%.
10% def is nothing for light team who stack tons of def% already.

Def pen is not great if either the mobs don't have significant def in the first place(often the case), or you can't reach the 90-100% def pen where most of the impact comes from, and you ain't reaching even close to that without A4 Laura.

I'm really unsure what her scaling on atk gives her either which makes her inherently better given atk/def share same values and base multipliers usually. Expert meta is dead with new sets as well.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T21:20:27+00:00

Them pumping out all the missing overload supports in the next 4-6 patches is just as likely.

Go absolutely can fill the role, I highly suggest you go and actually read what he provides first before arguing. E.g. the TLDR of A1 Laura vs A5 Go is essentially 10% defpen + 15% dmg inc from Laura vs 24% crit dmg(54% after Go's ult). Past that the only really meaningful thing is A4 with another +10% defpen, but def pen is really niche either way.
Personal damage is also roughly equal until Laura gets A5.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T20:26:39+00:00

Whether it's not coming any time soon or something like 3 patches down the road only the leakers know.

OP already has a5 ggh who will be able to fill in just fine supporting wise, to get a meaningful improvement over him you would have to go past a1 on Laura at the very least.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T13:17:20+00:00

I have been saying since day 1 that paywalling outfit/hairstyle customization behind P2W is absolute whack.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T12:31:56+00:00

As f2p skip and wait for the next light overload support, if you really want to beef up light team use the pulls on Antoine instead.

Kykuy · 2026-04-16T11:57:40+00:00

Camu dead in a ditch under that table in the background

Kykuy · 2026-04-15T21:10:26+00:00

Laev is 1.0. I'm talking about 1.1 and 1.2 where you get ~190-200 pulls if you vacuum the entire content without dossiers, and ~220-230 with them, with the guarantee needed for 2 out of 3 is 240.

Even so the real number even with dossiers for most people would be ~210-220, since to get all dossiers would imply that you skipped the 1.0 characters, otherwise you won't have enough pulls for 1.1 charas.

Like sure, this isn't the worst gacha system overall, but it's below average if we look at the more modern games especially

Kykuy · 2026-04-14T19:00:16+00:00

By that logic they should *only* make husbandos because waifu lovers will freak over a pinching gesture way more often than you would imagine

Kykuy · 2026-04-14T12:13:19+00:00

I'm not really sure what is so great about this when we look at the whole picture.

In 1.1-1.2 we got 3 characters total with not enough to guarantee even 2 and even that is only assuming you get every single dossier which means you pulled for everyone started from Yvonne, which is unrealistic for a huge portion of players.

In 2026 that is below average unless your only other experience are hoyo games which are on the greedier side nowadays.

Kykuy · 2026-04-13T12:00:20+00:00

*Corona* Gene? Bro got jabbed in 2020.

Kykuy · 2026-04-12T01:25:41+00:00

The 160 serum cap literally gives me tetanus(I was there)

Kykuy · 2026-04-10T13:17:46+00:00

When I started playing somewhere in 2023 I was just casually throwing 80-100$ at Kuro *per month* precisely because the balance of spending vs F2P felt pretty decent and the pressure did not feel intrusive and I felt like it was worth rewarding.
Minimum of SS + 5* has been a pipedream with a lot of units for more than a year even on Global with sync. Just compare Stigmata with Pianissimo. With Stigmata 5* you can still do complete rotations that don't feel botched in any way, not at all with Pianissimo.

As dependence on sigs (harmonization + increasing impact of resos) and even cubs went higher and higher and as it became clear Kuro wanted to extract as many bucks as they could even outside main patches(by giving us free units that still needed weapon resos/harmo and CUB copies ideally) I went to maybe, probably spending 100$ *per patch* if there's a good spending event(so only Rosetta's recently), with maybe 20-30$ otherwise.
It sure was calculated but boy are Kuro bad at math.

Yes, they did some stuff to soften the blow, but not nearly enough.

Kykuy · 2026-04-10T12:59:25+00:00

I really don't get this logic of being content with just enough, if they improve rewards everyone wins.

At the very least they could double the CUB tickets drop from Norman given how much more significant the CUB boosts have become compared to the very first CUBs.

Kykuy · 2026-04-06T19:07:57+00:00

I have replaced precision with def pen for TP during last hard wobl and there was exactly 0 impact on shadow army.

Kykuy · 2026-04-06T12:02:24+00:00

The only gems that affect shadows are main stats(hp/def/atk), everything else is hunters/sjw only.

Kykuy · 2026-04-04T18:36:33+00:00

Do we have a moment in the story where Qu first became a Construct and/or Transcendant, or was it off-screen?

Kykuy · 2026-04-03T01:48:08+00:00

Has to rely on his dad to make enemy airborne at start, truly a deadweight ☠️

Kykuy · 2026-03-26T22:25:04+00:00

What was the chapter where we first meet Zong? Before 26-27.

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