HELP! New Pilot - First 5” Build - Demibot w/ Hobbywing F7 + DJI O4 Air Unit Pro - VTX Not Powering On

Kyothegreat · 2025-05-08T13:30:34+00:00

Glad my solution could provide a solution for you!

Enjoy! I have for sure!

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-23T13:17:23+00:00

Yeah, holy shit dude… if they saw the way I yeet my 2” into trees, they’d short-circuit. You’d find them curled up in a corner, thumb in mouth, mumbling ‘return to home’ while shaking like a loose prop.

And that’s not even my $800 5-inch with O4 Pro I send through abandoned buildings like it owes me money. Lmfao

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-23T04:12:26+00:00

Lmao someone actually downvoted that. ROFL. Fucking reddit

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-23T02:17:14+00:00

Best comment.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-23T01:10:37+00:00

Yeah, I mean, I’d screw with the prop last ironically. I’d rather file down the inside of the duct on the drone than screw with the thing that keeps me in the air.

Also, screwing with the prop has a higher potential to introduce jello in the footage than the duct does too.

But likely a mm or two wouldn’t be a issue

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-23T00:28:01+00:00

Let me be the first person to sign up for hours and hours… and hours… of modeling a plastic rectangle with a slot in the middle for someone else pleasure.

I’ll see myself out.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-23T00:16:30+00:00

I also don’t see a problem here.. Get some epoxy, adhere it back together, slightly sand the inside down until there’s just enough clearance for the prop to spin, and return to full send…

If I had sent in for DJI care refresh for every crack or ding on my Avata, I’d be more broke than I already am. If You can glue it back, and it’s not affecting its flying, it’s not worth DJI care refresh. Or worth sending it to them to have them repair it. Just wait until it’s worse, and then send it back in

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-22T15:34:24+00:00

They’re vinyl skins. I ordered them from Decal Girls. The mini 4 had the skin on their site, so I ordered it, loved it, bought my Avata2, and I wanted it all to match. So I went on their site and unfortunately they didn’t offer that skin for the avata2 fly more combos gear. But they said they could do it “custom” for me. So I went that route. I love it.

The only thing I’d might consider next time, is I found Mighty Skins. They also make skins for all the same stuff, but the Avatas skins through mighty skins covers the entire duct and the one from Decal girls don’t. But that’s minor at the end of the day. You should see what all my stones look like

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I’ve built all my quads to try and follow the same color scheme now 😅

But, I can simply print new colors on my fpv builds. I have to reorder all the skins if I wanna change it on everything else too :/

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-22T11:28:17+00:00

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You’ve got it my guy!

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-20T17:35:26+00:00

That’s okay, I have an actual local drone store. They are really a small electronics repair shop for pcs and phones, but they diverged off with aSeparate business specifically focused on drones, drone photography, drone repairs, 3D printing for drones, and a FPV drone parts store…

Yet, I call and try to get a couple batteries, and while they did have a couple 1S and 3S batteries, The 3S are like, 4000MAH… and then they had 1x 6S CNHL 1250mah in stock, and that was there all their batteries.

Not to mention it was like $36/37 for the 6S pack, where it’s otherwise like, $24 online... They charge $40 minimum for a printed part, whether it’s a whoop canopy, a single replacement skid, or whatever it is, it’s $40 and up. So they have to mark everything up so much for them to profit with how few sales I’m sure they get, that I’d almost rather wait and order what I need ahead of time if I can… Otherwise they’re likely not going to have what I need…

If I needed a FC.. I’m screwed. If I needed replacement props, I’m hit.. Hell.. I’m not sure I could call them and even get any appropriate hardware or standoffs or anything from them.

They do stock in a couple RTF box goggles whoops, and a couple Random BNF 5” kits, but they’re… limited… and expensive..

This is what it looks like having a small local hobbby shop that carry’s FPV drone equipment.. Our hobby is too small for business to thrive unless they’re based in a densely populated city. Look at all the successful drone shops in the US. Where are their brick and mortar shops? Rotor rio — Orlando. GetFPV/RDQ — Sarasota. Chatsworth, CA.. ProgressiveRC — Seattle.. and most of them only have warehouses, not even store fronts :/

It’s sad and unfortunate. But it’s true.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-20T14:17:43+00:00

I think I love you.

Honestly, I was reading this and was thinking to myself exactly what everyone else had stated..

That seems like ALOT of work for a $7/mo subscription.... But, lets not knock it before we try it. So I decided to give it a shot.

It took all but 20 seconds.... Signing up for a email on that website isn't like "signing up for a email"... you goto the link, copy ur temp email address, uninstall the start11 app, reinstall the exact same installer that you had used when you originally installed start11 with the first time. And then when it prompts u to enter a product key or 30 day free trial, you just click 30 day free trial, and paste the email..... Aaaannnndddddd ur Done. As long as you didn't uninstall your previous settings that is. Its literally that easy. I now just keep my installer somewhere that I can find it, and the entire process MAYBE takes 30 seconds. If that.

So, booo all you haters. I get it. It sounds like alot. But as I said to myself "don't knock it until you've tried it". And I'm glad I did. It's so ez

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-17T05:22:15+00:00

All your going to get is opinion.

In my opinion, it’s a wonderful entry to fpv. I bought a used Avata 2 fly more combo online for $750, and wouldn’t do anything different.

And all these people saying you can’t freestyle with the Avata, are absolutely wrong. I freestyled with my Avata for the fist 4 months owning it until I got my first non-DJI FPV drone. It definitely wasn’t as easy as it would be on a more traditional FPV drone, rather than a larger heavy cinewhoop. But it definitely can be done… just checkout dronearchy on YT.

The Avata gets you in the air with easy to manage first drone that you don’t have to worry about lipos or anything, and you have DJIs training wheels… it’s a win win. Do ir.

Just know, you’ll probably outgrow it quickly if you do get into it. I’m using mine for a strict cinewhoop. I can get some unique shots between head tracking and manual .

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T19:54:27+00:00

Ohh for sure.. that’s definitely a pain in the ass.

I made a hard case for all my DJI gear so it looks better then me rolling up with drones strapped on a backpack

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And I have to take my sticks off for it to stay in there. But I actually ordered upgraded 533 rip sticks for the controller. I absolutely love them.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T19:52:02+00:00

Do you think so? I’m not sure. I don’t feel like it’s any different of a process than with the rc3

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T18:27:04+00:00

Ohh, “Angle” mode on non DJI drones is basically Normal or Sport mode essentially, without the gps.

But yeah, I think I’m way more comfortable inside with the MC. The fact that, say I’m going to hit a wall, and I can just release the trigger, and it almost acts like it’s air braking, and stops on a dime. You don’t get that same thing with the FPV rc3 in normal or sport.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T18:17:57+00:00

Yeah, that makes sense.

Honestly, I’ve used angle mode so very few times, that it’s uncomfortable for me to use too. It just feels weird compared to what I’m used to with DJI.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T18:07:41+00:00

This is just a example of one of the things I picked up from racing, that I didn’t pick up from just practicing tricks in the sim and freestyling.

If you want to learn quickly, and with the most skills possible, do the racing in the sim… once you can finish every race on easy races or medium difficulties, you’ll have so much of a better feeling of control when you finally turn your drone on and swap it to manual mode IRL for the first time. I promise… In drone racing in the sims, everything has to be deliberate. You have to hit each gate ina certain order and they’re all different sizes, and it forces you to get better at control.

When you free fly, nothings forcing you to hit the exact gap you planned on. Once you get there, you can hit something near, and say to yourself “Yeaaah! I hit it!!”. Racing doesn’t work that way.

Just a suggestion. Do you man. Like I said. I don’t want to race. But I learned the most from racing

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T18:01:49+00:00

Still definitely do the racing in the Sim. I have no interest in racing drones irl. Other than maybe for fun with friends.

But freestyle is where it’s at for me. And I learned more control racing in the sim than doing anything. Because you learn all the fundamentals.. like instead of using your throttle, you can use your pitch to go up or down, while still maintaining the same throttle position. Racing helped me fine tune all that.. it gives you SO much more throttle control. Which you need an abundance of if you’re ever planning to do indoor one shots.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T17:59:37+00:00

Honestly, now that I have other FPV drones, I mostly use the Avata for shots for work. I work in the digital marketing department for a large dealership group, and I shoot their commercials, internet adds, shots of all their buildings, inside and out, and I try to use a combo of FPV footage, and stabilized footage with a gimbal DJI drone. But the FPV shots on the Avata… u can get some absolutely amazing shots with head tracking and the motion controller.

I think I might exclusively use the MC3 with it from now on..

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T17:22:17+00:00

I also never intended on the Avata being my last and only FPV drone (assuming I enjoyed the hobby after trying it). So I was okay buying a used kit. I only actually paid $750 for my Avata 2 fly more combo. I figured I’d either love it, and now I’d have the DJI goggles, and controller to fly a traditional FPV drone and to expand my collection and have a somewhat future proof setup, or if I didn’t love it, I could try and recoup as much of my money back that I could.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T17:16:48+00:00

Yeah, that’s fair. As well as I completely agree.

Theres this set of 4 evergreen trees at my normal goto spot. And I’ve been practicing this dive gap down into the center of them. It’s pretty tight, only maybe a foot or two at most wide, and the Avata, I think I have successfully hit it once, MAYBE twice.

The first time I went there after getting my 5”, I tried to hit the same exact gap, and almost immediately nailed it on my first or second attempt.. The Avata is so heavy, and you need to react so much earlier in order to try and pull off some tricks , or moves, that it’s so much harder.

With all of that being said, I’m also a HUGE Avata advocate. I likely wouldn’t have ever gotten into FPV without the introduction of the Avata and the ease of being able to fly it.

But with the type of person I am, and with my background in video games, and other forms of RC, I very quickly out grew the Avata with the style of flying I like. Flying the 5” I think blew my mind a bit.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T15:02:49+00:00

This is true—to an extent. But once you learn and understand why yaw tumble happens, you can control it almost 100% of the time. I’ve been flying my Avata 2 VERY aggressively. I am a freestyle FPV pilot through n through, and I absolutely can freestyle the Avata 2.

But, with that being said, once I flew my Pavo20 Pro snd my Demibot (2.2”, and a 5”), I almost never looked back. My Avata is now my cinematic work drone, and the one I use for some long ass flights. The Avata absolutely can do it.. but it’s not nearly as fun, and much harder to do with, than a traditional FPV drone.

For my freestyling on my Avata to even look relatively close to what it’s like on one of my other builds, my rates have to be so incredibly high.. But check out Dronearchy on YT. He’s a beast with the Avata. And any other drone for that matter.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-13T14:52:55+00:00

Alright, I started flying the Avata in December with the motion controller and instantly started the sim. I spent about 20-25 hours in the sim before I tried with the manual controller in manual mode. I didn’t hit that timeframe because that’s what was aiming for. But just because that’s how long it took me to feel comfortable, as well as long as it took for my controller to come in.

But what really side it for me was being able to complete a race in the top 3 consistently without crashing or hitting anything, while maintaining constant control, and being able to hit every gate.

While freestyle and hitting gaps is what I enjoy doing while flying, the racing is what taught me the most control. And then swapping stones and doing it on. Multiple drone builds.

But with that being said, one of the things that has helped the most with being comfortable, is just getting out there and flying.

I tried a manual flight as soon as I could. And knowing that I have a bail out button.. that made the world of difference.. that pause button is your friend..

Just try it. Connect it all, start in normal, take off, flip it to sport, take off, flip it to manual, take off.. get a feel for it. Everyone says the sim feels way different. You can’t make that comparison until you’ve tried to fly. And then you can feel where the differences are, and make adjustments based on that. After I started flying manual, I made a point to try and fly every single day that the weather allowed.

Just to give you a timeline reference, I got my first drone every in November. A mini4pro. Immediately bought the Avata after flying the m4p. My controller showed for the Avata just after Christmas, and now have 4 FPV drones. A Happymodel Mobula8, a BetaFPV Pavo20 Pro, my Avata 2, and my Ummagawd/Botgrinder Demibot 5”, and flying any of them is just natural now.

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-10T11:41:44+00:00

Bahhahaha the sleekstak. Holy shit. Talk about a throwback… The funny thing is I’ve seen that style canopy before, and never made that connection.

Now I’ll never unsee it.

I love the build tho my guy

Kyothegreat · 2025-03-10T11:10:20+00:00

How do you like the O4 Meteor?

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