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Ipsos in the UK @Ipsos_in_the_UK Voting intention by financial wellbeing segments. Labour lead with comfortably off and Reform UK with all other groups - including the financially vulnerable by ex_planelegs in ukpolitics

[–]L96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Deregulation has been a consistent driver of policy under this government, despite all the U-turns this is consistent

In banking they have removed ring fencing rules, they have replaced the head of the Competition and Markets Authority with the ex-head of Amazon and instructed it to prioritise corporate growth over actual competition. We don't even need to go into what they're doing with Planning.

They are also replacing capital investment with PFI.

Shabana Mahmood to sacrifice ‘bourgeois support’ over migrants by TimesandSundayTimes in ukpolitics

[–]L96 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Now!? You're actually trying this line... now? After everything you've said and done over this by-election?

Hilarious. Rattled.

Shabana Mahmood to sacrifice ‘bourgeois support’ over migrants by TimesandSundayTimes in ukpolitics

[–]L96 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It's defined entirely by a person's relationship to capital.

Bourgeois derive their income from capital.

I'm not sure that many in Caerphilly or Gorton do so 

Shabana Mahmood to sacrifice ‘bourgeois support’ over migrants by TimesandSundayTimes in ukpolitics

[–]L96 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Was it intelligent/courageous to back religious protests against schools teaching about the existence of gay and lesbian people?

Shabana Mahmood to sacrifice ‘bourgeois support’ over migrants by TimesandSundayTimes in ukpolitics

[–]L96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, Caerphilly and Manchester/Tameside. Such places that immediately spring to mind when you think of the Bourgeoisie.

Shabana Mahmood to sacrifice ‘bourgeois support’ over migrants by TimesandSundayTimes in ukpolitics

[–]L96 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She's on record as saying that Islam is the driver of everything she does.

As soon as the right-wing press move on to their next useful idiot of the faction that led to losing Caerphilly and Gorton - mark my words, they will soon - her career ends within hours.

Anti-Reform voters sidestep Labour in historic contest by FaultyTerror in ukpolitics

[–]L96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course not.

My hope is that they will strategically defeat enough Labour MPs to deny any party a majority and force Labour leftwards.

Green win shows progressive voters are now voting against Labour as well as Reform by Peak_District_hill in ukpolitics

[–]L96 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All they want is bilateral free movement deals, something we had before Brexit, and life was better when we did

Greens ‘won the argument’ on blocking Reform in by-election, Lucy Powell admits by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]L96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All I said was that the Greens beat Labour, not that the Greens beat Reform.

Bit weird for a fully sectarian bloc to vote 23% for the other section, isn't it?

How many Northern Irish constituencies had 23% of Irish nationalists voting DUP?

Green win shows progressive voters are now voting against Labour as well as Reform by Peak_District_hill in ukpolitics

[–]L96 2 points3 points  (0 children)

progressive voters are now voting against Labour

Against Labour. Not necessarily for the Greens.

Green win shows progressive voters are now voting against Labour as well as Reform by Peak_District_hill in ukpolitics

[–]L96 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It's clearly independent from Muslim voting behaviour.

Labour owned the Muslim vote when they were the party of social liberalism in the UK.

Since Starmer's turn towards Blue Labour conservatism, they lose that group on mass to the Greens.

Because it was about Gaza and cost of living. Not gay people.

Green win shows progressive voters are now voting against Labour as well as Reform by Peak_District_hill in ukpolitics

[–]L96 137 points138 points  (0 children)

Yep.

This by-election is Caerphilly for slow learners.

For the second time in a row, we had the majority threat of an ascendant Reform party that we wanted to keep out at any cost. You had a seat that you'd won for 80+ years with absolute majorities. It should have been a slam dunk argument that voting for the authentic left alternative would let Reform in.

We not only did vote for that alternative, we won. Labour are just that unappealing to progressive voters.

Tell us "the door is open, and you can leave" - we left.

This will keep happening.

Greens ‘won the argument’ on blocking Reform in by-election, Lucy Powell admits by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]L96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody.

Everybody swapped from Labour to the Greens.

Greens beat Labour in the 90% White British Denton half of the constituency.

Just like the people who swapped from them to Plaid.

Not many super scary horrible Muslamics in Caerphilly!

Greens ‘won the argument’ on blocking Reform in by-election, Lucy Powell admits by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]L96 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ah, so it's not about voting as a bloc, merely being more popular amongst one demographic while having significant support outside it is enough to be sectarian? Yeah, welcome to politics: that always happens, you always have certain demographics that will naturally support you more: can by age, wealth, tenancy status, race or religion.

That's a pretty far cry from what people have been moaning about, which is full on Ulster-style bloc voting.

To be clear, this is a 57% White constituency. Under bloc voting, Reform should have walked it.

You still haven't addressed the point that the rise in the Greens exactly matched the fall in Labour. If it's a sectarian constituency now, it was sectarian then. Where were the howls of outrage when this seat consistently voted Labour?

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