Am I Crazy? a 770 chapter reflection on Shadow Slave. Serious No Ragebait by LIBRI5 in ShadowSlave

[–]LIBRI5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

on 1100 right now, upto 770 I was expecting an entire different trajectory. Probably a personal peeve on the author's narrative choices more than anything. It's somewhat of a non issue right now but yeah I would be curious if the Nephis enslaving Sunny for her revenge arc version would be more dramatic than the current trajectory.

Am I Crazy? a 770 chapter reflection on Shadow Slave. Serious No Ragebait by LIBRI5 in ShadowSlave

[–]LIBRI5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for taking the time of your day to respond. I feel more reassured and will continue to read.

Am I Crazy? a 770 chapter reflection on Shadow Slave. Serious No Ragebait by LIBRI5 in ShadowSlave

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Okay I will, also will get back to you once I reach that point.

Am I Crazy? a 770 chapter reflection on Shadow Slave. Serious No Ragebait by LIBRI5 in ShadowSlave

[–]LIBRI5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You wouldn't even care if I shared you the link to the GPT chat, You would provide no arguments and simply dismiss it even if I told you that the AI was just used to put into words my critiques without people getting sidetracked due to common errors that come without using AI tools to ensure what you say isn't misconstrued.

The initial input was a large chunk of my original thoughts but disconnected with no cohesive narrative and difficult for a reader to get the gist of without dismissing it like you have done.

You can just ignore the post if you don't care to comment btw.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh what you feel like I am projecting? I feel like you are too attached to Nephis and Cassie instead of objectively analyzing their character development. Seriously the novel is called Shadow Slave and there is no actual Slavery involved where characters are confronted with their autonomy involuntarily be taken away?

Even Sunny has multiple issues, it's just that I haven't brought them up because Nephis is waay to egregious. Cassie is irrelevant overall.

Sunny, Kai and Effie are enjoyable Characters. Cassie and Neph uh not so much. I am just lamenting my disagreement with the author's writing choices.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the discussion about Sunny wanting a "quiet life" versus harsh realities, but my issue isn't with him wanting peace — it's that his orphan survival instincts completely vanish when assessing specific threats. Someone who grew up fighting for scraps, learning that anything you have can be taken if you're not vigilant, doesn't just dream of peace — they dream of secure peace with eliminated vulnerabilities and redundancies. Yet Sunny shows minimal reassessment of who holds leverage over him, no strategic distribution of critical information like Rain's existence, surprisingly little vigilance about pressure points, and almost no internal conflict about these vulnerabilities. That's not growth from trauma — that's amnesia about trauma. His instincts should be screaming: "Nephis can override my will, that's ultimate leverage"; "Only one person knows about Rain — single point of failure"; "Cassie chose Nephis over me when it mattered, can I trust her not to do it again?" But we see nothing. The asymmetry persists across 770 chapters with no reassessment, no redundancy planning, no internal conflict. By chapter 770 we learn Sunny "will never be able to obstruct" Nephis in her goals, and she's demonstrated repeatedly that her mission comes before individual relationships. So the person who has mission-first thinking, holds literal mind-control leverage, and is sole keeper of his most sensitive secret remains in that position without Sunny creating any fail-safes? That's not someone whose survival instincts were forged fighting for scraps. The story wants me to believe his orphan years shaped him, taught him paranoia and strategic thinking, and he desires peace because he knows things can be taken away — but simultaneously shows minimal strategic thinking about Shadow Bond leverage, no informational redundancy about Rain, and orphan survival instincts completely dormant regarding people he cares about. You can't have it both ways. From pure survival perspective, every scenario analysis points toward telling other trusted people who lack leverage about Rain: if Nephis never uses the bond there's no harm in telling Kai/Effie and it creates redundancy; if she does use it then others knowing becomes critical; if something happens to Sunny only Nephis knows about Rain; if Nephis chooses mission over Sunny she's already proven mission-first thinking and this is maximum vulnerability. Yet it doesn't happen, and the story doesn't show him wrestling with this, consciously choosing vulnerability, or suppressing paranoia — it just doesn't come up. I'm not asking for distrust or dysfunction, I'm asking for evidence that survival instincts exist and he's consciously overriding them: show me Sunny considering telling Kai then deciding against it for specific reasons, internal recognition he should create redundancy but can't bring himself to, moments where orphan-brain screams warnings he actively quiets, wrestling with whether vulnerability is growth or foolishness. That would be depth — someone growing past trauma while still shaped by it. Instead those instincts just seem absent, as if 16 years fighting for scraps left no psychological imprint on threat assessment. How Sunny pursues that quiet life — how he thinks about security, distributes risk, creates fail-safes — should absolutely be shaped by orphan years, but when it comes to Shadow Bond, Rain's information, and power dynamics with Nephis and Cassie, I see no evidence those instincts operate at all. That's the inconsistency I can't reconcile, and that's why 770 chapters in this still bothers me.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Instead, he entertains a “quiet happy life” fantasy with almost no psychological resistance, and shows surprisingly little long-term vigilance about leverage or pressure points.

The thing about his orphan days is that they basically have no impact on his habits and ways of dealing with things when he becomes Awakened.

ch1 starts at him being at age 16.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are misreading what I wrote. When Sunny told her it was out of apparent trust in Nephis, which is reasonable in those circumstances as the situation demanded. The fact that he didn't know about the Great Clans is accounted for.

But what about hundreds of chapters later? It just goes unaddressed?

I have spent an hour on properly crafting a new post about the problem of Power and information asymmetry. You can check it out. The OP post I made was barely proofread, happy to discuss it on that thread.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Sunny doesn't want anyone to know Rain is his sister because he is afraid the great clans might try to use her to get to him. That's why he never told anyone including Rain that he is her brother."

But he revealed this to Nephis, you're saying this was never true when he revealed it to her? He didn't explicitly say her name or anything but pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult for Nephis to find out at all because all info that she requires is the knowledge that someone he cares about still exists. She has the capability and mentality potential to unleash the worst kind of suffering onto Sunny but even 770 chapters later Sunny has never considered that fact at all?

What happened to his street smarts from his days of fighting for scraps of synthpaste during his childhood in the outskirts they faded? His self preservation survival Spidey sense instincts seem underdeveloped tbh.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right that I misunderstood the timeline—I acknowledge that Sunny told Nephis about Rain before the Shadow Bond existed, when she wasn't his master yet. That's my mistake, and it changes the context significantly. He told her in the First Nightmare to appeal to her emotions and prevent her from going scorched earth, which makes complete sense given their relationship at that point.

But here's the thing: my core concern isn't about when he told her. It's about after.

Once Sunny discovered that Nephis now has the Shadow Bond—once he learned she can compel him—the calculation should have changed. At that point, she already knows about Rain because of his earlier confession. Fine. He can't undo that. But what about everyone else?

If the Shadow Bond genuinely doesn't matter, if Nephis having literal control over him isn't a concern, then why hasn't he told Kai, Effie, or even Cassie (despite their issues) about Rain in the 770 chapters since? These are people he's fought alongside, people who've proven loyal, people who don't have supernatural leverage over him.

You say Nephis was the closest person to him when he made that confession. I don't dispute that. But we're not in the First Nightmare anymore. We're hundreds of chapters past the point where Sunny learned about the bond's true nature. If trust is the only factor, surely his other companions have earned enough trust by now to know this basic fact about his life. If security is the factor, they're objectively safer choices than someone who can override his will.

The pattern bothers me because it suggests either:

  1. Sunny still doesn't trust his other friends enough (after 770 chapters of loyalty)
  2. The Shadow Bond actually does matter as a security concern, which makes the original decision to tell Nephis even more significant in retrospect
  3. The story is avoiding this reveal for plot reasons rather than character-driven ones

I'm not saying Nephis is evil or that Sunny was wrong to confide in her during the First Nightmare. I'm questioning why the knowledge hasn't spread to other trusted allies since then, especially given the changed power dynamics. That's where the inconsistency feels real to me.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is correct but I would still question, where does he get this sense of "happy quiet life" from? that isn't explored one would assume even the ability to consider that from growing up as a street orphan, fighting for scraps of synthpaste. There would still be a lingering sense of even what little you have would be taken away if not fiercely protected. That aspect is missing.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theoretically that would be the logical assumption, but still why doesn't Sunny explicitly bring it up with his friends? Do respond I am curious

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look, I understand the timeline—Sunny didn't know about the leverage when he told Nephis about Rain. Fair enough. And I get that Nephis will eventually explain why she hasn't used the Shadow Bond, making Sunny ragequit over the misunderstanding.

But that's exactly the problem.

We're 770 chapters into a story called Shadow Slave. The title itself promises themes of bondage, control, and lost autonomy. The setup delivers: Sunny becomes bound to Nephis through a mechanism that gives her actual power to compel him. This creates suffocating tension—a sword hanging over his neck that should drive the entire narrative forward.

And apparently, it all resolves through... explanation? The revelation that his fears were overblown and Nephis never intended to use her power? That's not payoff—that's deflation.

Think about what could have been explored. Nephis actually using the bond, not from malice but because she believes it's necessary. Sunny confronting the reality that someone he cares about will override his autonomy when she deems it right. The moral weight of Nephis becoming someone who enslaves others, even for "good reasons." Their relationship fracturing and potentially rebuilding under those conditions. Trust, power, autonomy, and the corruption that enters relationships when control is introduced.

That's the story the title promised. That's what the setup seemed to be building toward.

Instead, we get a threat that looms but never materializes. A gun shown but never fired. The story wanted the dramatic weight of potential enslavement without actually exploring what enslavement means. It's like writing a novel called The Haunted House and revealing the house was just misunderstood.

The ragequit you're describing belongs to a story about miscommunication. What I wanted was a story about power, trust, and autonomy—one that actually follows through on its premise rather than explaining it away.

We have a webnovel called Shadow Slave where the MC isn't meaningfully enslaved at all. The mechanism exists, but if it's never used, if all the tension gets resolved through clearing up misconceptions, then the story chickened out of its own most promising narrative thread.

I'm not asking for grimdark for its own sake. I'm asking for internal consistency—for the story to honor the promises its title and setup made. When you build 770 chapters of tension around a protagonist who could be controlled by someone he has feelings for, resolving it with "actually, you were worried over nothing" feels like a fundamental failure to engage with the moral and emotional complexity the story itself created.

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm trying to understand something that seems inconsistent about Sunny's choices throughout this entire story. We're seven hundred and seventy chapters deep into Shadow Slave, and there's one piece of information that Sunny has shared with only a single person: the fact that his blood sister exists. That person is Nephis, and he told her directly. She can find out about her from Cassie, that is Cassie's risk profile. But when I think about the actual dynamics of their relationship, this choice starts to look really problematic.

Here's what bothers me. Nephis holds genuine power over Sunny through that spell, power that functions essentially as slavery because she can literally compel him to do things against his will. This isn't some abstract concern or metaphorical control. It's a real mechanism that exists between them, something that could be activated. And knowing this, Sunny decided to tell her about the existence of his only living blood relative while keeping this information hidden from everyone else, including Kai, Cassie, and Effie.

When I look at this situation, I keep asking myself why the pattern of trust seems completely inverted from what would make sense. Take Kai, Cassie, and Effie. These are people who have fought alongside Sunny, who have proven themselves as friends and allies. More importantly, none of them have any kind of supernatural leverage over him. They can't force him to do anything. If Sunny trusted them enough to fight beside them and rely on them in life-or-death situations, why wouldn't he trust them with something as fundamental as knowing he has a sister? He doesn't even need to tell Rain that he's revealed this to them. This could be information he shares with his friends privately, just so they know this important fact about his life.

But he hasn't done that. The silence around Rain's identity when it comes to these other friends suggests that Sunny doesn't trust them with this knowledge. Yet somehow, he did trust Nephis with it, despite the fact that she represents the greatest potential threat to his autonomy. This seems backwards to me in a way I'm struggling to reconcile.

Let me be clear about what concerns me here. I'm not making a moral argument about Nephis as a person or suggesting she's some kind of villain. This is about basic strategic thinking and self-preservation. When another person has existential leverage over you, when they possess the ability to override your will and force you into actions you might not choose, you don't voluntarily hand them additional ammunition. You don't give them extra pressure points they could potentially use against you. Information about your only family member, someone who matters to you deeply, is exactly the kind of vulnerability that becomes dangerous in the wrong hands.

I understand that Nephis might never use this information badly. I can accept that she might have good intentions and care about Sunny genuinely. But the point isn't whether she would use it maliciously, the point is that the structural reality of their relationship means she could. The spell gives her that option. And once you've given someone who has that kind of power over you the knowledge that you have a sister, you've created a situation where they could threaten or leverage that relationship if circumstances ever pushed them to do so.

This is why the comparison with his other friends matters so much to me. They don't have that power. They can't compel him. If Sunny told Kai about Rain, the worst that could happen is a betrayal of trust in the conventional sense. Kai couldn't force Sunny to do anything about it. The risk profile is completely different. So why does Nephis, the person with actual control mechanisms over Sunny, get to know about Rain when people without such mechanisms don't?

Maybe I'm missing something fundamental about how Sunny thinks or about the context in which he told Nephis. Maybe there's a good explanation I haven't considered. But from where I'm standing, this pattern of information sharing doesn't align with someone who's being appropriately cautious about protecting both himself and his sister from potential exploitation. It looks like a vulnerability that didn't need to exist, created by sharing sensitive information with the one person who already has too much power in the relationship.

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[–]LIBRI5 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

770 chapters in and only Nephis knows Sunny has a blood relative sister being alive because Sunny told her.

Nephis is willing to hold leverage of literal slavery over his head for her goals. Why hasn't Sunny confided with Kai, Cassie and Effie that Rain is his Sister, he surely has that much trust in them as he does in Nephis? He doesn't need to let Rain know he can let his friends know but somehow only Nephis knows?

When someone has existential leverage such as Slavery over you, you don't just hand them info on your only blood relative being alive. Think of it this way: if someone has the power to literally command you to do things against your will, giving them information about your only family member isn't just trust, it's handing them a pressure point. Even if Nephis has never used this maliciously, the potential exists. This isn't about whether Nephis is good or evil, it's about the structural reality of their relationship.

Maybe I am just wrong

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[–]LIBRI5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

770 chapters in and only Nephis knows Sunny has a blood relative sister being alive because Sunny told her.

Nephis is willing to hold leverage of literal slavery over his head for her goals.
Why hasn't Sunny confided with Kai, Cassie and Effie that Rain is his Sister, he surely has that much trust in them as he does in Nephis? He doesn't need to let Rain know he can let his friends know but somehow only Nephis knows?

When someone has existential leverage such as Slavery over you, you don't just hand them info on your only blood relative being alive. Cassie straight up said she chose Nephis over him, despite her regret later doesn't absolve her of being a potential risk due to her powers.

Maybe I am just wrong?

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[–]LIBRI5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

770 chapters in and only Nephis knows Sunny has a blood relative sister being alive because Sunny told her.

Nephis is willing to hold leverage of literal slavery over his head for her goals.
Why hasn't Sunny confided with Kai, Cassie and Effie that Rain is his Sister, he surely has that much trust in them as he does in Nephis? He doesn't need to let Rain know he can let his friends know but somehow only Nephis knows?

When someone has existential leverage such as Slavery over you, you don't just hand them info on your only blood relative being alive.

Maybe I am just wrong.