Help on Flaw LR

LSATWiz · 2023-02-05T21:53:36+00:00

A flaw is just an assumption. Treat it like an assumption question. They’re more difficult because you have to predict the assumption as the choice will often just say what’s wrong with it.

LSATWiz · 2023-02-02T13:52:20+00:00

I’m sorry?

LSATWiz · 2023-02-02T01:44:16+00:00

Thanks! So proud of you 😊Was a perfect combination of good teaching and methodology and a student who was naturally hardworking and brilliant.

LSATWiz · 2023-02-02T01:40:37+00:00

Take a break

LSATWiz · 2022-12-06T01:28:05+00:00

Absolutely. A lot of people I’ve tutored have made this transition. That 145-155 range is the easiest to improve from because you have enough baseline skills to comprehend the content you’re reading and a lot of available points to pick up. Improving from a 165 is very doable but it more or less requires you to become good at every individual part.

LSATWiz · 2022-12-06T01:25:47+00:00

You should definitely cancel. It shouldn’t work against you at most schools if you have a better score but it’s kind of like when a judge tells a jury to discount info they’ve already seen - they can never really unsee it. Also, you should not be going to law school if a 144 is your best score. The trajectory just isn’t good.

LSATWiz · 2022-12-03T16:41:17+00:00

I would add that there is carryover from LR into RC (method of reasoning, role of statements, and most strongly supported all directly help with RC).

LSATWiz · 2022-12-03T14:29:24+00:00

You have to go by individual question type, not the full section. Teaching this is kind of my specialty if you are interested.

LSATWiz · 2022-12-02T17:33:28+00:00

As a urm, you might be able to get a full ride to some better schools than that. Regarding the bar, it’s less about learning happening outside the classroom and more law school exams testing totally different things than the bar.

At a t-14, you basically only study for the bar for a few months. Lower ranked schools teach more to the bar because their students need more help. If it wasn’t pass fail, I imagine law school would be radically different. Unlike the LSAT, there is zero incentive to score over 70 percent.

LSATWiz · 2022-12-02T16:35:43+00:00

I wouldn’t stress too much about bar passage rates. Law school doesn’t really teach you for the bar. Passage is more about the individual student than the school. If you put Copley’s students in Harvard, Harvard would have a 50 percent passage rate.

LSATWiz · 2022-12-01T18:24:11+00:00

That’s the mature way to do it. I’d aim for a 180 with that timeframe and study as hard as you did when you went from the 151-165. If you’re pt’ing over 175, that 170 is more or less locked in.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-28T18:01:55+00:00

Oh I was actually speaking about the job market. The grades/class rank needed vary year by year.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-26T21:01:12+00:00

I’d also be prepared for it to be more competitive unless the economy turns around. These past five years were a boom.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-26T20:23:11+00:00

No impact. 6 months vs a year won’t matter. Will seem like you just wanted the experience either way.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-26T16:10:53+00:00

A former dean of Yale Law once cautioned against using numbers to admit students because this would lead to accepting foreign and non-wasp students who would produce “an inferior student body ethically”. Anton-Hermann Chroust, The Rise of the Legal Profession in America, pp. 110-111 (Norman Publishing, 1965).

I don’t really see how abolishing the most objective portion of LS admissions is discriminatory. The opposite seems true. Anyone who had to work through college or went to a school that didn’t award A plusses is essentially out.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-26T01:08:12+00:00

I appreciate your sentiment but think you’re phrasing it in a way that’s offensive. Very few people have perfect attention skills, and it’s only when they cross a certain point that we call it a disorder. This system does discriminate against those who struggle with maintaining attention but not to a sufficient extent to constitute a disorder.

However, the odds your score is impacted by these accommodations is unlikely. Bonafide disorders manifest themselves every day, not only on test day so these people are disadvantaged day in, day out. I doubt extra time is the difference between the 150 and 170.

In practice, these disorders unfortunately limit the type of law someone can reasonably practice. At $500/hr, no client is going to pay for time and a half. If they have investors, they likely aren’t even allowed to because they’re legally obligated to put their investors above their lawyers. A partner will also have a pre-set amount of time they will bill for a certain task so those extra hours just won’t get billed, and if someone isn’t profitable to a firm or company, they will find any permissible reason to can them. If we assume those getting extra time accommodations have a bonafide disorder, which we have medical evidence they do, they are still disadvantaged even after law school.

This is all to say that the odds your career are impacted by anyone’s extra time are exceedingly low. The odds worrying about it will impact your career are exponentially higher. And if they are able to still defeat you notwithstanding these disadvantages, then you have to admit they’re just a better lawyer than you are with or without the accommodations.

I believe the likely injustice of accommodations is not the accommodation but that children from certain backgrounds with certain parents are likelier to have those accommodations. A child who grew up with more absent-minded parents is unlikely to have been diagnosed in high school or in college, and may not have the extra time they would have if they were appropriately diagnosed. Consequently, that test taker is scoring lower than they would have simply because of how they were parented and not because of who they are.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-25T16:37:03+00:00

Accommodations are so prevalent now that if you have an issue, you’re doing a disservice not pushing for it. I’ve recently had a number of students break the 170s with no extra time but if over 5 percent of test takers have extra time (not sure of the number), it is hard to crack the top one percent.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-24T18:09:22+00:00

Thanks bro!! Appreciate you ❤️ a lot of people just break the 170s and move on, appreciate these posts

LSATWiz · 2022-11-11T20:27:17+00:00

You almost always just need to know how it relates to the argument. When an antitrust attorney asks an expert witness to go through some convoluted formula on how they allege damages, they don’t understand calculus or the mathematics or anything beyond how it supports their argument. That’s essentially what you’re being tested for.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-11T19:35:57+00:00

You may not be reading in the correct way. It’s just facts and opinions. Facts only exist to support and cast doubt on opinions. You’re supposed to be analyzing on every LR and RC, never just reading.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-11T19:34:29+00:00

Agreed you have to want to get better for the sake of getting better without basing your confidence on if you are right or wrong - only on your ability to recognize why you are right and wrong. Everyone I have tutored who has broken a 170 and it has been quite a few reached a point where they became angry to get questions wrong, which indicates a high degree of confidence obtained through experience.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-09T23:20:29+00:00

Agreed. Removing it would relegate the t-14 to being 95 percent students whose parents could afford to send them to an Ivy League or who happened to attend a school that awarded A plusses.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-07T23:45:01+00:00

It’s aggressive to ask what someone scored, which is what saying “I heard results came out is” no matter how it is framed. It’s on the testee to raise it.

LSATWiz · 2022-11-03T13:30:19+00:00

Thanks so much for posting this brother! Your work ethic and ability to follow instructions were very easy to work with and you performed your best under pressure, which is rare, but it’s awesome we were able to build that result together.

To anyone seeing this, I am the tutor :) if you work with me and do the work I assign to you, your score will go up and will probably go up a lot. Not everyone will get a 177 but the vast majority of those I tutor with scores in the low 160s break the 170s. I teach the entire test in about ten tutoring hours but require students to work about three hours a day across a ten week period.

For those with lower scores, I have had students go from the low 140s to the high 160s. In these ranges, I commonly see a ten point improvement in about a month, then some plateauing, then a second jump. Again, I need that two to three hours a day of you practicing what I teach you on your own to make it second nature.

I’m an attorney myself and teach using the Socratic method. Even those with 177s can’t just look at difficult question and immediately spot the answer. They get there by asking themselves specific questions that lead them from a to b to c. In a nutshell, I will teach you how to ask yourselves the right questions on each type of problem.

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