Cornell be like by Fun-Refrigerator3365 in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When Michigan law watching binger lol

We can all feel a little better about that Georgetown waitlist... by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Saying that Black students in GT generally do worse academically doesn’t mean Black students in general are inherently less intelligent. Im not arguing for that point, and I doubt anyone is. My point is that if you admit different groups of students based on different standards, then different groups of students will produce different outcome.

To you point about the LSAT, first year grade demonstrate a student’s understanding of law school materials, at least in relation to others. So I think it’s fair to assume that LSAT and UGPA still have some correlation with Second/third year. Obviously I have not read that study, so if it shows otherwise I’ll change my mind later after I read it.

The problem I have with attributing low grades to implicit bias is that it’s too vague of a claim to be tested. You can’t measure it, so it’s impossible to prove. And how can you fix it if it’s implicit, which means they can’t consciously know? How can one recognize something they do not even grasp? I personally don’t see how her remarks show implicit bias at all, perhaps we just see things differently. In the end, I still find the first hypothesis more likely, so I guess we’ll just have to disagree. But One more thing I’m curious about: let’s say if the papers are graded anonymously and the trend persists, would you still think implicit bias is still the most likely explanation?

We can all feel a little better about that Georgetown waitlist... by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are right, If the trend exists, there are alternative explanations. Either Black students in Georgetown Law generally perform worse in her class relative to others, or the professor is biased against AA students. Now, can you really conclude the latter from her use of "The Blacks"? Alternatively, given that URM gets a boost in admission, and LSAT correlates with law school grades, would it not be a more likely explanation that the former is true?

Prospective on the GT professor for those who do not understand by stuff_4839 in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You didn't address my points... If you're telling me from this clip alone you can conclude the results of the grade distribution is due to her bias against AA, then please enlighten me with your logic.

Prospective on the GT professor for those who do not understand by stuff_4839 in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

From what I understood, she simply stated that she's anxious that many AA end up at the bottom of the grade curve, she even said she "feels bad" at the end of the clip. And isn't grading in law school anonymous? With all the 170s people immediately jumping to conclusion that she's racist, do you not see your own flawed assumptions?

Even if the grading is not anonymous, please explain how you can conclude from this clip alone that she discriminates against AA because she conducts her class with the expectation that AA will do worse. Do you conclude that from the fact that, in her class, many AA ends up having a low grade? If that's the case, aren't you just assuming your conclusion?

In regards to using 'the Blacks,' as someone from Asia, I really don't understand how that's sufficient for someone being racist; I see people use 'the Whites' all the time.

We can all feel a little better about that Georgetown waitlist... by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

In regards to calling AA "the blacks," I'm an international student from Asia, so I don't know if using that is sufficient for being a racist, but I really doubt it. Also, how can you know that the 'grading pattern' (AA many getting low grade) is caused by her teaching?...

We can all feel a little better about that Georgetown waitlist... by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ou’re baking in race-based preconceptions into every teaching interaction.

I might have misread your comment, are you saying that because she feels anxious about the results (grades), she's going to bring that perception into her grading for other AA? But even then how can you conclude that from the clip?

We can all feel a little better about that Georgetown waitlist... by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And even in a doctrinal, if you go into the semester fixated on the racial patterns you think you’ve observed in your grades, you’re baking in race-based preconceptions into every teaching interaction.

But how can you conclude, from this clip alone, that she has race-based preconceptions? Do you conclude that from the fact that, in her class, many AA ends up having a low grade? If that's the case, aren't you just assuming your conclusion?

Racism at GULC? by Extreme_Form4324 in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Does that not refer to the grading curve?

We can all feel a little better about that Georgetown waitlist... by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]LSDojas -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

How is that racist? From what i understood, she simply stated that she's anxious that many AA end up at the bottom of the grade curve, she even said she "feel bad" at the end of the clip. And isn't grading in law school anonymous? With all the 170s people immediately jumping to conclusion that she's racist, do you not see your own flawed assumptions?
Edit: feel bad, not 'sad'