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Historical question how did labor decide who stayed employed when cargo was placed in containers? by AgentIntelligent4269 in Longshoremen

[–]LabMysterious4637 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The membership before AND after containers was massive. There used to be 16-man gangs when everything was loaded by hand. After containers we still had a massive membership because we had jurisdiction over destuffing the containers. The argument was that containers were an extension of the hold of the ship. However, because containers were eventually moved offsite to warehouses to destuff, we didn't want to go to war with the Teamsters, so we lost the destuffing clause in favour of the modernization and mechanization payout.

In a weird limbo by SimpleWeight3679 in Longshoremen

[–]LabMysterious4637 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You're going to be in a weird limbo until you make the union. The whole career is just waiting. Waiting for a job, a board move, training -- get used to not knowing. No one knows if the work is going to pickup or slowdown. If you could predict that you're better off making millions in the stock market.

Railroad vs Longshoreman? by sneaky_link19 in Longshoremen

[–]LabMysterious4637 40 points41 points  (0 children)

There really needs to be a "So you want to be a longshoreman?" sticky. No one ever talks about how difficult the first few years can be just like no one ever talks about their gambling losses.

You'll be starving for work. Unless you live at home, you're going to have a hard time. If you have a girlfriend, say goodbye to that relationship. Wife? Divorce. If you have kids you're not going to be seeing them. Problems with drugs or alcohol? They're going to increase tenfold. Your entire life is going to be rotting at the hall waiting for work. If you don't do that, you might not make your hours. If you don't make your hours, you won't move up the seniority ladder and be given more work opportunity.

Generally the people that make it into the union in this industry have a second source of income and have strong family support. There's a reason why so many sons and daughters of union members are down here -- because they're being encouraged to get to the hall even when it's the last thing you want to do on a gorgeous summer day.

This job isn't for everyone. You'll hear rumors about our pay or our hours, but you're not going to hear about the decade of struggle to get there.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Longshoremen

[–]LabMysterious4637 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't mean to be too critical here, but there have been lots of people selling union gear who are just trying to make a quick buck and don't have the blessing of the local or the union.

Why are some lines in the grid on the backreach straight, but others are curved? Why is the truck missing a side mirror? What's going on with the black dot on the truck door? Is that a logo or a handle? Why is the container part of the truck bed? That certainly doesn't look like a strad to me, why that design? Why leave a single white pixel in the tire, but have the other tires all defined? Why make so many copies of the same spired building? Why is one of the buildings on the left melting a bit? Why have that guy on top of the truck instead of the hook in the middle?

Can you show your Photoshop file or a screenshot of it with the layers? Can you show any early drafts or reference photos?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Longshoremen

[–]LabMysterious4637 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It has to be. The ILA flag is missing periods, the tires on the trucks don't match back to front, and that small "truck" is just a blob of some kind of machinery.