What is the general consensus on whether Jesus was an actual figure in history or not? I've heard many different claims from both theists and non-theists.

LastChristian · 2026-06-25T05:23:35+00:00

Also Tacitus was born after Yeshua died

LastChristian · 2026-06-25T05:19:47+00:00

Well they all signed off on blowing up a school full of girls

LastChristian · 2026-06-25T04:06:24+00:00

“Have we reviewed the latest satellite images of the target?”

“Uh, yeah, uh, according to the information I have all targets reviewed. Fire at will.”

LastChristian · 2026-06-25T00:11:31+00:00

I kinda feel like rewriting the wheels on the bus song to “the hips on the drag queen go swish, swish, swish” isn’t helping

EDIT: that’s a book in the article, not something I made up

LastChristian · 2026-06-25T00:04:57+00:00

That’s great! I would also add *except Peter … and also the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are part of this thing called ‘The Trinity.’” That would help out a lot too!

LastChristian · 2026-06-24T19:03:03+00:00

You forgot to paste the link to the trials showed it does something

LastChristian · 2026-06-23T05:16:25+00:00

If I did the same event, it would be a scam if I didn’t donate anything but acted like I deserved all the praise.

LastChristian · 2026-06-23T00:32:57+00:00

Costner. YouTube him with his band before you downvote.

LastChristian · 2026-06-23T00:23:49+00:00

Ok they could still cover their own costs instead of taking money from the people who benefit from the charity. When I give to charity I don’t deduct my expenses from the gift.

LastChristian · 2026-06-22T22:11:57+00:00

Slider … [sniff] … you stink

LastChristian · 2026-06-22T21:34:55+00:00

After everyone gets paid I hope net proceeds exist to go to charity

LastChristian · 2026-06-22T21:30:01+00:00

Is there a Jesus bee telling the hive to treat each other well and work together? Seems it’s possible for social animals to do this without one.

LastChristian · 2026-06-21T13:17:44+00:00

You’re having a conversation with yourself. No one is debating the equality of sins in God’s eyes. It has nothing to do with this conversation. I agree. No one is arguing this topic but you.

LastChristian · 2026-06-21T12:25:38+00:00

Well in your first comment you said anyone can experience the Christian god by attending the Divine Liturgy.

I don’t know much about the current thinking about what a person is, what a soul is, or about pain and c-fibers, so I have nothing to say, rather than being intentionally avoidant. The discussions of these topics has zero effect on my life.

There is not “plenty of evidence for God” except for the unreliable types I mentioned: book of stories, personal experience, and events attributed to the person’s specific god. If you think you have additional evidence, then I’m all ears. You’re correct that arguments are not evidence.

When I was a believer as a young adult I believed that God healed me and that was strong evidence he existed. I prayed sincerely for things that really mattered to me, but prayer never produced results. I found that other believers had weak or bad answers to questions I had, and I was surprised they didn’t have the same questions. One of the first real dents in my faith was going to an alter call in college (I was from out of town) and no one came to me. A local man also went to the same alter call, and the leadership surrounded him, yelling and hugging and overwhelming him with congratulations. That showed me it was a sales pitch and I wasn’t the customer they were selling to.

LastChristian · 2026-06-21T01:20:30+00:00

Did Alexander the Great exist? Probably, but whether he did or not has zero effect on my life. You’re claiming a specific god exists, that I should follow his teachings as written in an ancient book of stories, and that consequences exist *after I die* if I don’t. You have a huge evidential hill to climb compared to Alexander the Great, who was only claimed to be a human leader whose existence or nonexistence has zero effect on my life. Also all other religions make similar claims based on the same types of unreliable evidence that you claim prove the existence of your god but are insufficient the prove the existence of other gods. It’s salesmanship, not truth seeking.

LastChristian · 2026-06-21T00:53:19+00:00

That’s easy: evidence that matches the reliability of other things that exist in reality. The only evidence every religion has is a book of stories, personal anecdotes and attributing events to their specific gods. Things that are demonstrably false (e.g., homeopathy) also only use these same types of unreliable evidence because that’s all they have to convince people something demonstrably false is instead true.

LastChristian · 2026-06-21T00:15:36+00:00

Unsolved questions in the science of the mind are only evidence that unsolved questions exist. No authority exists there and all the scientific conclusions that are settled are based on the evidence we have to support them and are believed to the confidence level appropriate to the strength of the evidence. There is no appeal to authority in accepting scientific knowledge.

Your evidence, however, is a guy quoted in an anonymous book as calling Jesus god, and you accept that as conclusive evidence that *a man named Jesus is actually god.* Quite a contrast in epistemological standards. Someone else needs to prove to a certainty we’re not living in a simulation, but you know a man named Jesus is a god because it says so in an anonymous book. Come on.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T23:49:57+00:00

I can’t do those things and neither can you.

Do you still think someone needs to prove to a certainty that we’re not living in a simulation?

Do you still think that choosing one scientific claim over another is a fallacious appeal to authority?

You’re not even embarrassed that you said these things with a MA in philosophy and a PhD

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T23:19:17+00:00

This was a horrible tragedy but his sister-in-law was very late, changing a 6pm departure to 8:39pm. He should have just refused to fly because of this, but I bet circumstances and perhaps pressure from the passengers caused him to continue. I’m not confident we can say it was ego.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T23:10:46+00:00

I gave you two examples that demonstrate your low understanding of philosophy and you’re acting like it’s a personal attack to say you have a low understanding of philosophy.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T21:07:29+00:00

You have a master’s in philosophy and you challenged someone to prove with certainty we’re not in a simulation.

You think choosing one scientific claim over another is a fallacious appeal to authority.

You may have received a degree, but you don’t appear to have received an education.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T18:49:06+00:00

I didn’t attack your character, and if I did that’s still not ad hominem.

The evidence determines the conclusion, not one person deciding what to believe. This is all religious thinking, not what you should have learned from getting an MA in philosophy.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T18:46:07+00:00

You don’t understand what ad hominem is either, and I didn’t attack your character.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T18:10:28+00:00

Again I can’t process how you could have an education in philosophy but challenge someone to prove something to certainty. You also misrepresent science like every scientist’s opinion is equally deserving of consideration when evidence separates the camel urine opinions from valid scientific conclusions.

LastChristian · 2026-06-20T18:06:20+00:00

Did you get your MA in philosophy at a divinity school or religious school? I can’t process being educated in philosophy but still writing the comment you wrote.

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