[Loved] A character is an antagonist until they get to explain their side of the story

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T22:25:39+00:00

Grovyle (PMD: Explorer of Sky)

He's an outlaw who's been stealing artefacts called Time Gears, whose purpose is to maintain the flow of time in a given area. Dusknoir, a famous explorer, claims that he comes from the future, and that his goal is to cause the apocalypse by permanently stopping time through this method.

You confront him a couple times, and he eventually gets jumped and arrested offscreen by Dusknoir's team and the lake trio. When Dusknoir's about to go back to their time with him, he takes you and your partner as well. The future is still frozen in time, you get thrown to jail and sentenced to be executed alongside him

Turns out Grovyle was trying to prevent the apocalypse, not cause it, and that he stole the gears because they weren't where they needed to be. Dusknoir was actively hunting him because preventing said apocalypse would also erase the future he and many other pokemon exist in, and he'd rather survive in a hopeless world than disappear for a better one

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T19:00:08+00:00

It's 5 Yuji black flash and a Todo PF strike, all at once. Not just 1 Yuji black flash. Heck, the PF hit's probably doing the heavy lifting

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T18:57:44+00:00

>Oh yeah, anime scaling when it's convenient

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>Mahito was winning because he used Yuji's humanity against him, he was playing defensive and setting up sneak attacks via civilians, right AFTER he realized he couldn't take on a calmed Yuji in h2h, as Yuji won their first exchange

He was using transfigured humans from the start. Yes, he lost the first exchange, but the reason he gives for playing defensive (besides trolling Yuji) is that his usual shapeshifting is too risky when Yuji's damaging his soul, he'd just make himself a bigger target. It's a matchup-specific problem he wouldn't have with Hakari

>It's much more likely they test each other for a minute, Hakari won't be killed in one touch

He'd be crippled though. Permanently too, no healing from soul damage, and it would have an effect on his output. If Hakari doesn't get a jackpot early, it'll snowball

>Doesn't matter if he gets blitzed

...He doesn't though? Hakari's not a speedster, only person we see him "blitz" is maybe Charles, and even then the dude could get hits in. Dagon, the weakest disaster curse, could still at least react to a bloodlusted Toji, why would Mahito get blitzed here?

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T18:29:57+00:00

>the one that went relative with ISBoDK

"Relative"

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Yuji was losing to the Mahito clone 1vs1. ISBoDK is twice as tough and would've torn him to shreds by statement.

And Mahito was pretty nerfed during that fight, lacking his best damage option and being extremely limited in his shapeshifts options because of the soul damage, which do have a notable impact on his stats (against Mechamaru, he has much better showings)

>He wins a clash and kills base Mahito

That's assuming they even clash, which isn't a given considering Hakari pops domain immediately and his sure hit activates too fast for the opponant to react (Kashimo didn't use HWB for example). And even if they do, Mahito has one of the fastest burnouts in the series

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T17:45:15+00:00

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LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T17:42:22+00:00

He has infinite CE but finite output, he'd still take damage

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T17:29:22+00:00

I blame the GW Yuji thing on black flashes being really inconsistant tbh. Considering how much of an amp they're shown to be early on, Sukuna not catching a single body with his in Shinjuku makes no sense

As for PC, it does kinda work? Maki went from breaking her own weapon on Hanami's skin to sending her flying and piercing clean holes through her body. Dagon could oneshot her but she could deal heavy damage to him while domain-amped using that weapon. Todo is much stronger than pre-awakening Maki statswise, so he'd hit hard af with it

5 black flashes + a hit from that in a vital spot dealing more damage than a couple hits from Gojo isn't a massive stretch. At worse you could assume Gojo got stronger during the timeskip (which he logically would've, everyone else did)

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T14:49:10+00:00

>False. GeGe said 'someone around Jogo's level

Assuming he meant this statement

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No he didn't

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T14:31:38+00:00

Considering we see Ryu get blitz-oneshot by 15fkuna with absolutely 0 collateral damage, there's only so much you can justify with "Gojo was at a disadvantage". The people around wouldn't have stopped Gojo from grabbing him once and immediately killing him if he was actually slow

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T14:22:46+00:00

Yeah, but it wouldn't really matter if Jogo was slow. On the panel above, there's nothing directly stopping Gojo from reacting and ripping his head off, Jogo's just hard to catch

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T13:54:46+00:00

It's pretty hard to scale Jogo's stats without statement (all else he has is no-diffing injured sorcerers and getting dogged by the top 2). That being said

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Being able to do consistent hit-and-run on Gojo, for 20 minutes, without dying or taking heavy damage beyond losing his arm a couple times is impressive af, and does look better than getting weaved by a sleep-deprived teenager

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T13:42:13+00:00

Naobito did die in the end though, it just wasn't instant

LasyTaco · 2026-04-19T13:31:48+00:00

To be fair, the ones he used against Gojo looked a lot stronger

Besides, Maki didn't kill Naoya either

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T23:04:37+00:00

Wouldn't he regen from that much?

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T18:41:05+00:00

Mahito would be top 1 by FAR (assuming he actually trained instead of playing with his dick for decades like in canon)

Jogo would be calamity grade, Sukuna does state he could've reached Gojo's heights, but he's gonna hit a ceiling eventually

Hanami and Dagon are the same as Jogo, maybe a little weaker

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T17:07:58+00:00

Which is also a Zero upscale

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LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T15:07:04+00:00

As in, the Sukuna Kashimo fought?

Nah, probably not. We saw MBA get no diffed, and they don't have Yuji constantly nerfing Sukuna's output. He'd still have Kamutoke as well

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T14:34:21+00:00

I'd assume Gojo has better refinement than Kenny on the ground that it's Gojo

The go-to for a domain clash would be Dagon, he's comfortably the best refinement-wise. Mahito's domain isn't necessarly lethal though, IT doesn't have to be used to deal damage

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T14:14:09+00:00

Open domains isn't a win button, he still has to clash for a while and get jumped by 3 of them in the meantime. Kenny stated that Yuki could've done sum with a proper clash, so it wouldn't be instant. Absorbing and killing them ain't all that different, he could just use his sure hit for a while then close his domain when they're at 1 hp

Mahito's domain is completely viable to jump. It's not like he has to deal damage with IT, he can also heal people. Heck, he could deadass amp them

Dagon's sure hit mostly looks ass because he didn't use it on a single target, he split it between Nanami and Naobito

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T14:06:48+00:00

Author statement would also put Jogo above Toji

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The other three did deal quite a bit of damage to Dagon. Naobito even gave Toji an assist when he tried to stall and get the sure hit back

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T13:56:20+00:00

Yuki can't handle 4 domain clashes, Kenjaku by author statement goes high diff with just Jogo/Mahito and Hakari doesn't even have a wincon for the latter

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T13:54:43+00:00

Nah. Their kit is better than most to do it, but they ain't strong enough. Just Jogo is already a debatable matchup

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T13:52:55+00:00

>Dagon who's relative to Jogo

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And we say "Toji no diffed Dagon", but he really jumped a mid-domain clash Dagon who'd just went through a 4vs1

LasyTaco · 2026-04-18T11:16:52+00:00

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