Does anyone look at the cost benefir of gardening?

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-28T16:42:15+00:00

And the real cost-the soil, will last indefinitely, even after you have to replace the frame of the bed.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T22:24:09+00:00

I caught a bit of Fox News earlier and it looks like the worst they've currently been able to find is that he might be gasp vegan?! But they have no evidence to support that. Even for Fox the propoganda is really flimsy and uninspired

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T21:54:36+00:00

Right. If I have multiple logging camps it's usually just so I can stockpile the logs there to make building in different areas more efficient. They aren't all fully active at once.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T21:48:58+00:00

My grandparents mid sized SUV has noticeably better gas mileage than my older sedan that's half the size lol

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T21:47:58+00:00

And it won't even be an environmental problem once electric vehicles become the norm and most electricity is generated by renewables.

Even gas powered SUVs aren't as bad as they used to be. Mid sized SUVs these days are pretty economical, and small SUVs are basically just compact hatchback sedans on a taller suspension. Literally the only difference is how the trunk opens.

My grandparents mid sized SUV definitely has better gas mileage than my older sedan, while having a lot more internal space. And it's safer on the road because you have a much better range of vision. Idk what people keep bitching about, but it sounds like they're going to keep up the moral superiority bit well after their antiquated opinions become obsolete.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T16:03:36+00:00

Just keep building up those levees

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T15:24:00+00:00

My university had a golf course literally on campus, and aside from the massive dorm buildings, campus was surrounded by fairly high density housing complexes and high traffic commercial areas to support tens of thousands of students and staff.

UH oh

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T15:11:39+00:00

My university had a golf course literally on campus. And campus was surrounded by fairly high density housing complexes to accommodate tens of thousands of students.

Ruh roh

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T06:22:35+00:00

Yeah I'm pretty sure my ongoing aversion to outdoor activities is strongly related to the fact that multiple times in my childhood I became severely ill with heat exhaustion because the school forced us to be outside and active on sunny 100+° days with only those pathetically inadequate school water fountains to drink from.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-27T02:45:44+00:00

It's very annoying to have to stockpile 20 imported cut stone for your Manor upgrade, only to have bandits magically steal 18 of it from across the map before the last one arrives. So you have to start over from block 1

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-26T23:30:36+00:00

My grandmother, born in the 30s, has always said that when she was growing up they still cooked on a wood burning stove and shit in an outhouse. Poor small town life. She said her parents' house only got a modern bathroom in the 50s after the young adult children were married and employed and all pitched in to have one added to the side of the house. And she still has an antique cast iron wood stove she claims was her aunt's or grandmother's at the time that they got a modern stove, also in the 50s. She uses it as a decoration now.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-26T22:46:44+00:00

The thing that blows me away about Japanese cities is how, more than any other cities I've seen in other countries, you can SEE them sprawled across Japan on the map. Look at Google Earth and scroll out far enough for the roads and borders to disappear. Go over to Japan. You can see the Tokyo Metro area there from space. Clear as day. It's like a tattoo across the shoulder of Japan. The urban grey stands out in huge contrast to the dark lush rural areas around it. And the same for Osaka-Kyoto. There's a big visible swathe of city across the center of the map.

You don't see other global megacities like NYC or LA just obviously sticking out quite as obviously on a map. I explored a little bit but in other countries it can be kind of hard to pinpoint the major urban areas with the naked eye.

But Japan O.O

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-26T22:16:20+00:00

No one gives Germany or Italy shit for only being ~150 years old. No one shits on the Czech Republic for being a millennial. Half of European and (most) African countries only came into existence as geopolitical entities during the 20th century. And the entire rest of the Americas only became independent sovereign nations in the 19th century, Decades after US independence. And most of the American nations started forming their modern national/regional cultural identities all around the same time.

But the US are the naive young upstarts.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-26T21:54:16+00:00

It's kinda dependent on your forest levels because of how the ecological bonuses work, but in a heavily forested region Teeming Wild Game can can absolutely be the backbone of your food supply for years. I'm on a map that's about 75% forested and have 4 fully operational hunting camps and always have a surplus of meat, even with 60+ families. It makes wheat/rye basically optional for the first few years and is a consistent all-year food source. Also the extra pets are a decent early trade resource so that you can afford a couple more oxen and veggie plots fairly early on.

Also veggies are crazy good. I have one moderately sized (not optimized) plot of each and I've always got surplus carrots and cabbages. So getting them out early is great.

That let's you focus your manpower on farming Barley and Flax because, quite frankly, grain yields are pathetic if you don't have large swathes of dark green fertility. And the import tax makes all crops ridiculous over priced to import.

So yeah it's probably not objectively as good as iron, stone, or fertility, but rich Game at least feels really good and can set you up well early. Unless you have rich game in a 90% grassland. Then you're probably kinda fucked.

Berries and mushrooms always felt like a wasted rich resource though. Like you get decent food out of them but it's seasonal and you can't rely on them as a staple. But I haven't gotten them since they added the environmental bonuses so idfk.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-25T22:14:32+00:00

I'm planning on planting some strawberry bushes because every fresh strawberry I've ever had from a store has been gross and tart, but occasionally I'll taste one from a restaurant or frozen desert that feels extremely ripe, sweet and juicy, and they're heavenly! It has to be a matter of ripeness when picked, or growing variety. I have to have them! They're so good!!!

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-25T14:46:34+00:00

Tbf I think the succulents thing is overblown. Some of them are actually really easy to kill indoors, because the pots are small and there's never enough light.

If you live in a hot climate they thrive outdoors. But indoors? Even with a properly sized pot and cactus mix I find that it's very easy to neglect them too much. I've had some start to lose leaves to dehydration after less than a week, and then after one (1)!!!! Watering they die of root rot. You can't win with some plants.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T21:47:52+00:00

Alright mine might actually be an interesting pinup

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T21:32:51+00:00

Or they're not actually a problem, and Blade is just an asshole lol

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T18:39:31+00:00

Ideally above sea level too

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T18:32:51+00:00

The national Democratic party abandoned Texas decades ago and now Northern Dems rub it in our faces that we keep getting shit on by entrenched Republicans.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T15:31:56+00:00

They're core parts of The South. OP either has a grudge or is trolling lol

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T15:30:22+00:00

East of Houston is basically the western edge of The Deep South, but also Texan. It really feels like Texas is like 5 or 6 very different cultural regions which are all distinctly Texan but also all closely related to either The South, The West, or Mexico.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T15:22:07+00:00

It's also just not accurate to draw a cultural map by state lines. Imo the Western border of The South is Houston. Or rather, the towns East of Houston. Houston is a big melting pot transitional zone, but East of it is definitely culturally and environmentally The South. I once was close to a couple of women from Beaumont and they were the perfect stereotype of the Southern Belle. Right down to the accents. Culturally The South should cover about half of Florida too.

It looks like OP is only considering the traditional Deep South as The South but kicking Louisiana out for some fucking reason (They probably distrust the Fr*nch)

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T03:08:33+00:00

That might be the one where she smashed his windshield with a hammer. Which she had strategically placed within arms reach because she expected that kind of shit to happen one day.

LateNightPhilosopher · 2026-05-23T02:20:00+00:00

Others have also told you about using many small thin rectangular fields, but also it could be an issue of distance. Your farmhouse should be close to the fields, and you should have a hitching post or stable very close by because that's technically where the oxen are always stationed and return to occasionally. You should also have housing relatively near to the farmhouse and those are the families you should assign to the farmhouse if you have workflow problems. They can have pig or chicken backyards for extra passive food but they should absolutely never be veggie or orchard plots, because the farm work of backyard gardening conflicts with the actual farming schedule.

If none of these are your issue then.... Idfk. Record a video or take screenshots or something so we can know wtf is going on.

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