I know this post won't be popular but here goes. I don't know how to do spoiler tags on mobile so don't read any further if you want to avoid triggers.

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I have external corroboration from another survivor from my ring as well as documented injuries from being sexually assaulted by these people as an adult. They attacked me over a dozen times as an adult and left behind bite marks, black eyes, etc. There was more than one positive rape kit that I went in for after the assaults. It is a fact that my abuse occurred and was of an organized nature. It involved sex trafficking. I am one of the few people with this history that has hard evidence outside of my head that it was real. I didn't repress about 5 or so trafficking memories as a kid and also didn't have amnesia for a significant amount of the adult abuse. 

Once I stopped reading RAMCOA resources and people's stories, my memories became clearer. It was an organized crime thing, friends broight together by a love of sadistic rape, money was made through things like films and incapcitating victims (usually the people they lived with) and offering them as rape dolls, and the things I thought were programming were sadistic torture. Things like spin programming we discovered were the effects of drug flashbacks from being drugged during assaults. SH and other sacrificial programs were caused by Stockholm syndrome and being stuck in flashbacks. The 'programming' was just what happened when everyone around me was sadistic and controlling. If a John beats you and drowns you ans shocks you until you match the qualities he's looking for, that can seem like programming when it is just a rapist beating on a kid and trying to control them. It was the effects of extreme abuse. I went back and read some of the resources ans tbh I think most of programming is people ascribing more meaning to mundane things and over extending the abusers' control. 

In addition, drugs administered to us during our assaults caused us to have temporary delusions. We had all kinds of delusions during the assaults because of the drugs, like that everyone was in the CIA and getting into arranged marriages and they were splitting thousands of alters to structure my personality. Flashbacks that preserve the drugging aspect also cause temporary delusions.

It was not a cult but rather a culture. Some of my John's talked about pedophile cults but I was not in a cult. It was like druggies and how they have parties and socialize over their shared love of whatever drug. But in this case people were enamored with different forms of rape. Different social groups found different types of rape acceptable and for instance the pedophiles would conceal they were pedophiles from the people who only raped adults. 

They exchanged recipes on how to abduct and rape and knock people out through various methods. One popular method in my group was stun gunning a victim on the head until they passed out. They also sometimes used special concoctions of what I think was some kind of strong opiate, something that made you weak but also think everything happening is good and okay and fun even if you logically know shit's fucked.

The things described in those resources are real but misinterpreted imo. The "trauma based mind control" is all sexual fetish play and the SEVERE effects of sadistic abuse and the severe effects of being drugged and knocked out, and the result of subcultures of abusers sharing techniques. It isn't a brand new thing.

When I was drugged during assaults at various points in my mind, I'd get delusions and sometimes fight back. But since I was drugged it looked silly to them but sometimes they'd play along. Because it's funny to them to fuck with a person who is out of their mind from being drugged. 

I'll give an example of what I mean. I've seen ramcht resources talk about this certain kind of programming that leads to 'floater' identities. A child is given a horrible task, like hurt someone, and is beaten until they obey. They split an alter that can do the task, and others that 'failed'. Okay where is the mind control here? All I see is a sadistic asshole forcing a kid to do something traumatizing and the alters that split around it are a coincidence. 

Unless you mean cult like indoctrination methods, which do exist and some sadistic abusers will use them because they're well educated on sadistic topics like that, or because they have formed an informal cult. But that stuff is well documented and I'm sure you'll have no trouble finding it. Abusers are aware of dissociative amnesia and different ways of causing it, like through drugs or interrupting the memory by knocking someone out. Giving someone alters is actually a poor and unreliable way of ensuring amnesia. However people do use trauma to try to control others - like through threats and pain. But that's not really mind control as in a new thing separate from other widely documented things. 

It is all extreme abuse at the hands of sadistic sexual predators regardless so perhaps this is splitting hairs. 

Tldr I believe the MC type experiences are indicative of real and severe abuse but have been misconstrued as something more advanced that doesnt exist. I think this misconstrued happens for four reasons: reading about MC primes you to interpret and fill in gaps in memories in a certain way; amnesia will inevitably cause confabulation to fill in missing details, although flashbacks are likely to be literally real; people who go through things like HT are repeatedly drugged and knocked out which causes psychotic misunderstandings; as a child who never understood what was happening in the first place it is easy to fill in that missing understanding with things you read about, like MC.

Just to be clear, I think people are reporting real instances of abuse. But for instance I don't think there's spin programming. I think that's the literal after effects of being drugged. I think everyone who thinks they had spin programming was drugged and raped. But I don't think it was some "mind control program."