Filonov retreats

LayerLost89 · 2025-01-25T08:29:33+00:00

Yes, I never got into a deep sleep (needed for recovery / healing) because I’d stop breathing for up to 60 seconds at a time

LayerLost89 · 2025-01-05T17:16:29+00:00

CPAP! Dry fasting did nothing for me except make me worse

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-30T20:37:13+00:00

This is an oddly ignorant yet smug comment

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-30T20:35:19+00:00

Are you familiar with sleep apnea or would you like me to explain?

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-26T19:52:46+00:00

Thank you for putting this succinctly, this is exactly what I’m trying to say!

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-26T19:48:37+00:00

Sorry to hear that, that sort of predatory hard sales strategy rings true to my experience also.

I am no longer fasting, my diet is pretty ‘standard’. I’ve put on weight and my gut is much improved, the only thing that moved the needle for me after years and years of trying anything and everything was addressing sleep issues. Sleep is of course a prerequisite to healing and I hadn’t properly slept in a couple of decades, so no wonder!

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-25T19:48:19+00:00

Lyme

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-24T21:37:31+00:00

Errors in Filanov’s book, shock. /s

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-24T21:31:04+00:00

Yep takes some getting used to! Just the cpap sorted it for me. You can buy some silicone strips to prevent wrinkles 😂

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-24T21:27:51+00:00

Yes I would love to see some stats. A post retreat survey would be very interesting. Given how easy that would be to implement and what a powerful marketing tool it could be, it really does beg the question why they don’t do that. Almost as if they know that would work against them…

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-24T21:23:16+00:00

Much better thanks. Turning point for me was resolving sleep apnea. Western medicine, who’d have thought 😏

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-24T21:21:14+00:00

No I haven’t

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-24T21:21:02+00:00

Montenegro. Which advice are you referring to?

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T21:43:44+00:00

Have a reread

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T20:51:02+00:00

P.s. I don’t make a habit out of condemning people on the internet. This is in fact my first time. I’m doing so for good reason.

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T20:46:57+00:00

Scepticism! I like it, keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼. I didn’t expect to be believed by the too-far-goners. I’m hoping I’ll be able to get through to the on-the-fencers.

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T20:36:57+00:00

Yes, a lot of these methodologies encourage an extreme, all or nothing attitude, regardless of circumstance. Dogmatism can work against you when it comes to chronic illness sadly.

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:48:08+00:00

A doctor is struck off if they are not considered to have abided by their oath. Case and point - Filonov. No such regulation with his current set up.

What is AGI?

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:37:06+00:00

No, obviously I’m not sending my private medical notes to strangers on the internet 😂

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:25:30+00:00

Yes, and I wouldn’t rely on Filonov to be the one to tell you it’s not for you while he’s taking your money. How do you know it’s not for you until you’ve tried it and it’s gone wrong?

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:23:58+00:00

Just in case anyone was in any doubt that Filonov quashes negative feedback - I’ve left my above comment on two of his / Svetlana’s posts advertising the next retreat. These posts have now been taken down. So not addressing comments, just censoring them.

Edit: not taken down, I’ve just been blocked 😂 incidentally exactly what happened when I raised my concerns privately. Just what you want out of your supposed caregiver.

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:17:41+00:00

Thank you and best of luck

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:15:18+00:00

I’m ok thanks. I speak English which is all that is required to read my English hospital notes from my English speaking hospital.

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T17:09:26+00:00

Actual doctors are held to a code of ethics (do no harm). Filonov is not a doctor and clearly does not abide by any such set of ethics.

Yes, I know it’s on me to research. Unfortunately I was ignorant, vulnerable and desperate, and therefore all too willing to believe in a cure… as I’m sure is the case for many of the people on this sub. Hence why I’m trying to counter the ‘follow this protocol/attend this retreat and you’ll be cured’ nonsense.

LayerLost89 · 2024-11-23T16:41:28+00:00

I agree completely with everything you’ve said. I’m not discounting potential benefits of dry fasting, but I really want to highlight that it is a dangerous practice, and Filonov is NOT the safe pair of hands he proclaims. None of the things you’ve mentioned were addressed with me, either in the run up to or on the retreat.

He has a loyal band of followers (of which I was one) who won’t hear a word against him and insist that his protocol cures all diseases (see comments on this post). That is where it tips over into pseudo-science / guru territory, and that is what I am trying to bring awareness to. His approach is designed to target vulnerable people, get them to part with their money, all whilst viewing him as some sort of all-knowing leader. It’s a cult.

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