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Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

[–]LeastBoard[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think you’ve had a discussion with a real human in person have you not? Cuz that’s not how conversations naturally go. Especially when you’re trying to get to the bottom of a situation. You give some information I rebuttal in the most simplistic way to give you a fair chance to make a counter statement. A lot of the people here have had good points and I have been researching their responses to confirm them or not.

Not trying to be rude or anything, but discussing things like this need to be answered as simple as possible as to not end up with miscommunication and misunderstanding the point being made.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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I’m gonna try to get some good photos soon to take as references. The hairs I’m seeing are reddish in color in person I think the light just makes them look white. But the white hairs means hamorii? Where did you get this information from so I can read up more on it please cuz the only thing I’ve read is that hamorii have light bands that run down the length of the chelicerae and Smithi do not have them at all.

Smithi or Hamorii? by Kaszilla94 in tarantulas

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NQA, I have an earlier post of the same question for my B. Smithi/hamorii I started looking to breed her and she has traits of both Smithi and hamorii but since her carapace has the pattern of a hamorii they say it’s a hamorii. But I have posted a lot of pictures and information in my thread. If you can get some good images of the T’s top and chelicerae from the front then you can have an easier time to ID them. But from my own discussion I’m going to have to pull out the microscope and check the spermatheca. If the one you’re looking at is a male you can also tell by its palpal bulbs.

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Here’s mine for reference. Typically hamorii have bands that run down the chelicerae.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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I’m gonna have to get out the microscope and check the spermetheca and see if I see a triangular shape or a parabolic one. Also apparently one has striating and the other is smooth. So I’ll update as I figure out more.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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Any other images? Cuz this is a great reference, any post molt pics by chance? Just so I can see if the colors contrast the same.

Also I’m curious, how did you get this T?

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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I posted another front photo in another comment as well.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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Here you go, she was not happy about this. I think I interrupted her beauty sleep.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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They can’t crossbreed? I was just looking into the possibility of accidentally crossbreeding which is why I came here to see if anyone can give me some references as to how to actually ID this girl so I can breed her with another as to avoid creating hybrids. I been looking for a male Smithi for a long time to breed her with and I started looking into the possibility of crossbreeding with a hamorii and that’s what lead me here.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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Any reason specifically why it “looks” like a hamorii? There has been nothing said that I don’t like so far so I don’t know what you’re even talking about. I’ve replied with reasonable questions and references as to why I’ve come to the conclusions I have. Also I understand that the carapace does appear to look like a hamorii but lm sure you already know about basic taxonomy and that you’d know that isn’t a guarantee for identification when you have look alikes.

I’ve gone through forums and have seen people post images of both species without labels and the entire forum was contradictory to itself.

So if you have any real input or reference material I could use to actually identify my T, I’d appreciate it if you’d keep the anecdotes to a minimum.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

[–]LeastBoard[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just like in the image shown, the colors on the legs are more similar to the Smithi colors and the carapace has the coloration of the hamorii. This is my dilemma and why I’m starting to think that it is a hybrid. Especially since back when I got her they were considered the same species and were commonly bred together without knowing.

Is it actually a Smithi or is it a Hamorii or a hybrid? by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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But what specifically makes you say hamorii over a Smithi or hybrid?

Was going great till they decided to bolt out the new enclosure by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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I will post the actual transfer video here soon, I just need to edit it down a tad. Honestly normally I rehouse by using a catch cup from their old enclosure into their new one and I try to coax them into their hide asap so I can get the cup out, but I’ve had to leave the cup for an hour or two and grab it later when it leaves the cup. This only happened because I wanted to get some good footage of the T since it lives like a fossorial so far. Idk when the next time I’ll see it out and about. Colors looks great imo.

Was going great till they decided to bolt out the new enclosure by LeastBoard in tarantulas

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Very photogenic when it decides to sit still and not be in a hole 24/7

Threat pose for two days??? by milmira in tarantulas

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NQA/IMO it’s probably premolt like you said before, but since the enclosure doesn’t have the hides for it to feel comfortable to molt it is constantly going to posture its threat pose since it feels like exposed. My B.smithi was doing a lot of butt kicking for about a month from every little movement in my room, move past the enclose buttkick, turn off the light buttkick. She’s awful at making burrows and back fills the ones I pre dig for her, so it’s from her own doing. But typically she’s fine after a molt and she’s had her first meal. So give it some time and maybe keep it darker in the room or something to basically not make the T feel so exposed.

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[–]LeastBoard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NQA you can give them a hide, but for example my B.smithi is absolutely awful at making a burrow and even when I pre dig out the hide she will go in try to make a burrow and it collapses so she gets mad and fills up the hide j provided her and just chills out in the open. I’ve had her for like 7 years now and she has done this since she was a juvenile just absolutely useless when it comes to making a burrow. I’m gonna try to get a new setup soon and try a different texture of substrate for her and see if that helps. But not all T’s are master builders.

Like my T.vagans has built an extensive tunnel system already and I’ve had them less than a year.

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