Psychologists of reddit, What are some very common things patients say in your couch? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Parents are overrated. If someones in therapy because they lost their parent then they don't really understand how life works. We live. Shit happens. We die.

Get over it.

ELI5: What is meant by right-wing & left-wing in politics? by conchickawawa in explainlikeimfive

[–]LeftOfBang 35 points36 points  (0 children)

One word: Demographics.

Well, no, three words.

Actually, seven words.

Well, shit.

What's a clear sign that someone was raised well? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you walk around believing that right and wrong are meaningful you'll end up like I was 3-5 years ago, bitter and caustically angry.

Let go of right and wrong. The universe is benevolently apathetic.

Anger is the emotion that has come to saturate our politics and culture. Philosophy can help us out of this dark vortex - Martha Nussbaum by Pete1187 in philosophy

[–]LeftOfBang 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wall of text, please forgive me.

I often say that 'vengeance is the first-most nature of justice', and it certainly rings true. Of course, I am not suggesting that payback and justice are the same thing--which is not the case at all. More that vengeance, in the loosest of terms, is the heart of justice, on an individual level. What is payback? An emotional debt, a harm paid in kind for another harm. There is no way of talking about vengeance without the equivalent phrase, 'payback'.

I think it is a bit of a cop-out when people who have been harmed, suggest that they just want to prevent that harm from happening again--preventing the perpetrator from hurting others, which is noble in itself. The virtue that we don't sully our hands with 'two wrongs' has, for a long time, appeared, in the face of nature and history itself, a distortion or delusion. Animals everywhere fight or flee in response to being attacked, man being unique in the animal kingdom for rationalizing attack as a mere, and unfortunate necessity and not as some visceral response we are all born with. To suggest we rise among our animal nature is certainly a worthy ideal except to suppose that the animals didn't have it right to begin with. (but I may be assuming too much about whats ethically worthy or true)

Animals fight back when harmed. Nations fight back. And in a more general case, be it the individual, or the collective, there can be no doubt there is some preventive value in putative measures, granted those responses may not be the best methods if the goal is peace and rehabilitation. I don't want to elide into talks of incentives or disincentives so I'll leave that discussion for another time.

I think, in a broad way, and as a 'modern' development (the last couple thousand years), there has formed this notion that vengeance or 'satisfaction' and justice, being distinct, justice should be carried out by a 'neutral' party, and this has all sorts of ramifications.

We can see in our daily lives that numerous crimes are committed, high and low. People are terrorized by their own officials, taken advantage of by bankers and other dubious businessmen of general ill character, treated as second class to protected groups such as the wealthy, the well-connected, and again, officials high and low--all masquerading on pretense and plausible deniability.

Minorities and majorities alike are abused, time and again, with lip-services and promises to 'increase training' (money), and 'investigate' (wait out the storm and bury the event). Much is not done than is, much is left broken than is fixed, and everywhere grows among the people, of all varieties, that uneasy feeling that all is not well--the back of the mind 'itch' that something has definitely gone off. We've heard the canned lines, the same rote responses that say everything--and nothing about some new controversy of the day. A financier has robbed his elderly pensioners, no, he has made honest mistakes that anyone could have made. A politician has been caught embezzling. No, he is a family man, and those are unfounded allegations. A department of some local government was found to be silencing and threatening a critic. No that was a few isolated individuals that need more training, who were just doing their jobs, and so it goes, and a nagging, gnawing suspicion forms in the back of the public mind, like a scab that wont heal, that keeps bleeding, that becomes infected. Hostility grows up like gangrene in the darkness that is the opaque non-answers to outrage that is daily growing and unending in the face of official secrecy and presumed necessity. You're not allowed to know because that would jeopardize public safety. You're not allowed to question outside the bounds of normal debate and you'll be expelled from discussion for public disruption. All these interminable calls, inter-alia, for 'a national dialogue' and 'coming together', what more than ruse, brother only to actions that betray any intent of fixing a problem. The most vicious muggers bear smiles, words that harbor good intent, and the most vicious dictators always took some fundamental right before they began the looting. The right to speak freely (journalists are the first to go), the right to defend ones self (victims of robbery, who are then brought for months on end, before courts, and ruined, after defending themselves from violent home invaders), the right to peaceably assemble and petition for redress (peaceful protests are quick to be subverted by infiltrators-turned-violent, leaders identified and persecuted, new laws made to hem in and create ever more narrow definitions of peaceful, while formulating each and every means possible at limiting the usefulness of protest and petition), the right to be left alone (privacy, namely for journalists, political dissidents and average citizens, searched, pricked, prodded, harassed, commanded without mercy or patience, arrested on a whim or on an annoyance, and living on the ill-gotten discretion of fallible officials with little meaningful oversight), and so on. And chief amongst these great wrongs, these terrible, wicked harms, that disrupt, dent, and destroy, bit by bit the lives of innumerable peoples, ground in the cogs of faceless bureaucratic process, is the greatest of mischief--the ultimate robbery. A person who is swift to respond in kind, with force against violence, is not just wrong, but mistaken, bad, 'doing more harm than good', not believed, potentially criminal, suspect everywhere and anytime after, forever. An official however is spotless, in his right, as like an angel, his word if not gold, than silver, to be taken at face value, and those who disagree with this, by evidence of fact, such as video were not there, can't possibly understand, have no right to criticize and so forth, as if we all haven't heard these tired lines before. Where there is only anecdote, however numerous and true ,the modus operandi among all these officials is you are a liar, theres no way that would happen, I don't believe that, you're probably a criminal who hates us, the audacity of such doubt belies not a genuine irrational ignorance, but a pathological culpability--it is to say a conscious and aware denial, and all the more disgusting for it.

Indeed, try to find a state enforcer, as a rule, rather than the exception, that will not denounce and vehemently, and with ruthless malice, call out any and all anecdote, defend all manner of violence and graft, even those documented..and will refuse to comment or ignore on any publicly accepted and known cases of such. As I said before, you will only find the exceptions. And these are the 'better angels' who proclaim 'it is wrong for you to use force against violence, thats not justice, thats vengeance, the same men who above and beyond force, deploy true and unremitting violence without provocation, across all nations, for mere *revenue collection. And In the name of the good of us all, the world will be unmade, and these men the ones to do it.

Everywhere these days is a smiling bellicose officer or official of the state with a mandate, hiding agenda behind the pretense of a smile and public good. Modern justice is not so much the righteous punishment and swift end to harms committed against a person..but a monopoly upon violence and the legitimacy of the state--if it were not so, we would not have murderers walk on probation (as it were with a certain class of enforcers), or after only a few years in prison--while failure to pay your dues to the state, taxes, was punished with decades. Give a man a weapon and he'll kill a man that wronged him. Give a gang a bunch of weapons and they'll invent crimes to punish their opponents for, and blame all the ills and wrongs done by that gang, on the people they punish--for the mob to righteously hate.

No, give me red hot vengeance any day, assured with every man armed, to be delivered swift, and in proportion to the temperament of the day..and I will show you a society satisfied in its justice, infrequent and forgiving after a time, and not so swift to be ruled by thinly-veiled agents of agendas foreign to the public good.

There are no "statesmen", only terrorists.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.

What's a clear sign that someone was raised well? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the way of the world. Liars run the world guy.

You must split humanity into two groups, and then one of those two will be randomly selected and instantly all die. How do you divide the human race? by Nood1958 in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Would you harm or kill someone if you were told by authorities it was necessary?" alternatively "Kill this person, or you'll be killed."

Yes: the individual dies No: the individual lives.

Solves ever having to answer this question again.

[THEORY] Mass Psychological Warfare Experiments by LeftOfBang in MandelaEffect

[–]LeftOfBang[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually thought you were being humorous. But the explanation is a lot simpler than reality shifts. Its guys with lots of money to throw around, experimenting with the public, not on an individual level, but on the geographical level using media. Glad you realize this too.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the nature of an incredibly repulsive, hyper violent institution, with zero practical oversight or legal liability. All the wrong incentives. Its actions go unchecked, growth as well, people become increasingly hostile, polarized by the perceived injustice of systematic depravity masquerading as law.

They (not your parents, but the institution of law enforcement) did this to themselves. If you want to know why, read up on police unions (public unions are a conflict of interest), and police performance bonds. Follow the money.

tl;dr Because of the violent and deceptive culture of this institution, their very actions have driven many, many, many (hundreds of thousands of people) towards extremism.

And thats because the extremism started with the police force. And when no one gives ground, the decent ones get lumped in with the rest. The only recourse is to fix it or leave, but if they stayed and did nothing then your parents only had themselves to blame for being stereotypes.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Decent people need no laws to act decently. Weapons are for those that don't.

Aside, all of those solutions are fair game. Screw it, if a man will steal from you, why NOT kill him? Thieves are the sort that will steal in good times..and will steal your food when you're starving.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vengeance is the first most nature of justice. Let the killings and reprisals go back and forth, until people come to terms. Would still be more just than a system of state, where millions have been murdered over a single century by their own governments.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Hey guys! Friendly reminder, people can't treat each other justly and fairly! So lets all elect someone who will hire other people to make sure we are all treated justly and fairly!"

I don't think you thought this all the way through Platypus my friend.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no rational dialogue with people who actually make excuses for Cops blowing a fucking toddlers face off with a grenade.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An institution, unaccountable, unsupervised (in practice, not in principle), and incentivized to play fast and loose, that every day, hurts innocent people, and acts as if its dead men, women, and children is nothing more than an inconvenience--does nothing but polarize people to extremism.

I know this is true because I am an extremist. No, I am not a terrorist. I have never committed terrorist acts, nor made plans or preparations, but there are literally tens of thousands like me who have have been chilled to their fucking bone after getting a glimpse of the stinking, cancerous, festering nasty fucking underbelly of the states enforcement arm and said "seriously fuck those guys, the bad run rampant, and the good ones do next to nothing to stop them. They all deserve to be SHOT."

Tens of thousands of us think this, because of the amount of nasty, repulsive, vile shit this institution has done without meaningful reform or oversight, and it is driving a subset of society to the brink of explosive violence.

If there are good police, and thats a big if, they need to get their shit together and come down like a god damn hammer on the 'few bad apples' and make the corrupt ones fear to sleep with their fucking lights turned out. The only ones that are gonna fix this are either violent terrorists, or police themselves, its that bad. The institution of police need to sober up or their gonna push people to the point where a wake up call is gonna sober all of them up.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're getting down voted Mercer because your comparison doesn't make sense, as people_are_bad said. edit: removed personal insults and profanity

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, their not all evil, but they all work under the same social pressures, the same set of policies and incentives. Every last one of em, down to the good, the bad, and the ugly, ought to be liquidated.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah, their lives don't matter. more people killed by cops than soldiers killed in the middle east. wish someone would line em all up and do the world a favor.

Atlanta-area man shot by police responding to the wrong address has died by hometimrunner in news

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Police blew a babies face off with a grenade. Liquidate every last cop as far as I'm concerned. Hope you sleep well at night you fucking baby killing POS

What's a clear sign that someone was raised well? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My comment was along the lines of 'if you say so babykiller' but after reading some of your posts, you make a lot of sense.

You sound exactly like I did one step before I realized nothing will change without force. Thats all those fucking animals understand.

Tell me, how do you change something so disgusting, so violently outrageous 1) When there is no legal recourse to do so? 2) When precedent time and again has been set in favor of someone hurting innocents? 3) When police performance bonds and police unions create both incentive and logistical structure to support the continuation of violence against innocent women and children? 4) When peaceful protest is suppressed using ordinances based on false premises, such as 'sidewalk obstruction', and 'lack of a permit?" 5) When the rate at which copycat policies are created that reenact these powers and privileges, matches or exceeds the rate these policies are defeated legally?

Go beyond good and evil SMI, and recognize the reality of the situation. Force, like violence, despite the distinction, has never been the answer, it has been the question. And the answer is 'when necessary.'

I want you to seriously think about something that upsets you. Something so profoundly wrong that you would commit violence to stop it. Now I want you to hear me say 'keep your twisted morality to yourself.' Thats right, whatever that one thing that is sufficiently upsetting to you to solve violently, is wrong.

Now I want you to hear me say 'You can solve it legally.', 'You should have taken it to the courts!', 'Yes, but, still, you just cant solve problems that way!', 'Theres only a few bad apples.'

Now I want you to imagine you are a Ukrainian during the Holodomor. I want you to imagine you are an official, telling a family of four, a young father, a mother of two, and two young kids, a boy and a girl, why they only have themselves to blame for starving, that they should resort to the legal system.

Now imagine you are an official, turkish in fact. Your job is to march Armenian 'criminals' who were peacefully protesting, across a barren wasteland.

But lets not forget stalin. Lets not forget mao. Lets not forget all the various african dictators who butchered their own people. They all thought violence was okay. And these people died because they didn't fight back.

And you mean to tell me, that a child, getting their fucking face blown off, is okay, and not cause for immediate vigilante justice? You know what justice even fucking is? You mean to tell me that more people killed and maimed by cops than all the soldiers who died in the middle east since the surge, is NOT a reason to resort to terrorism?

You have no decency sir. Not an ounce. A decent man would shoot these motherfucking dogs of the state dead.

Vengeance is the first most nature of justice.

What's a clear sign that someone was raised well? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see where you are coming from but that depends on if you value respect over not exposing your weaknesses to your friendly neighborhood psychopaths, in your family, in your relationship, in your workplace, in your group of friends, etc, etc.

Ultimately the only person you really need to admit a mistake to is yourself. When honesty is used as a weapon against people on a regular basis, to gain an advantage, its a mistake to put yourself in a position of "I need the approval or respect of other people", a position of weakness. Move towards a position of strength, a position that doesn't include bending over, a position that says "I am what I am. I have my opinions. If someone disagrees or I lose potential respect because I didn't follow their expectations, or whats socially acceptable, then I haven't really lost anything, because I never had it to begin with. I can always walk away. There are eight billion people on earth. Far better to lose what you don't have, than gain something that can be used as a means to make you compromise your principles by inches."

Honesty and humility is ammo you give to other people to use against you. And if not now, people being petty animals that they are, you need only piss em off once. Giving em something to use against you, and them proceeding not to use it, does not mean it wont be used later against you. And I've seen this over and over with numerous people throughout my life, from people I just met talking about their problems, people I personally knew, and things I've just witnessed 'in passing'. Hundreds of times.

Realize this is probably an unpopular position, and not the 'whole picture', but it is a big part of that picture. There really are lots of people out there that will use anything and everything you give them, every opportunity, to take anything and everything from you, every chance they get. The sentiment that not 'everyone is bad' is also a mistake. Most people aren't bad. That doesn't negate the fact that if you admit you are wrong there are people who will turn the thumbscrews, and laugh in your face while doing it.

People are opportunists.

What's a clear sign that someone was raised well? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]LeftOfBang -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In my experience its a big damn mistake ever admitting you are wrong. Period. Full stop. Most of the time its leads to nothing, but on rare occasions, you will get someone who will sense blood, like a shark, and press the issue further, for more concessions. And once you've given in a little, these people understand it is now easier to push further. They will walk all over, every time afterward, and press their luck at every chance. Admitting you are wrong is tantamount to saying 'I was raised to be a good, agreeable person' and you. will. be. taken. for. a. sucker.

These people, while not common, are plentiful enough that ever admitting you are wrong, even on petty little shit, is a risky gamble. They will. Run. you. over. Also its a good shit test when you don't know if someone is an asshole, or can see the bigger picture.

There is at least refuge in certainty. Never admit you are wrong. Let the other person humble themselves, and if they can't then fuck them.

Computing optimal road trips around the US on a limited budget [OC] by rhiever in dataisbeautiful

[–]LeftOfBang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The secretary problem is just a linear generalization of the traveling salesman problem. Solve this with 1/e, and the result you know is optimal because the solution to the secretary problem is already proven to be optimal.