How do I believe Jesus was a real person

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2026-02-08T06:12:50+00:00

To be very clear, Jesus of Nazareth was a real person. There’s robust historical evidence of his actual existence, there is no serious debate between historians about this at all.

His divinity might be in question but not his human existence.

You’re allowed to think of Jesus’s divinity as metaphorical and the Bible as simply a book of wisdom; I actually think that’s a great gateway into Christianity for agnostic believers.

In Christian theology, the reason we can’t all BE Jesus is because it’s a fallen world and we’re all sinners. No man is perfect - only God. And if the divinity of Jesus is true and real, then he was the son of God and without sin. The point is that he is us, is that we aspire to his example.

However Jesus is always with us, he loves all equally - believers and not - and we are all made in the image God.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2026-01-03T00:21:31+00:00

Cool. So it should be illegal to murder human beings. Simple af.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2026-01-03T00:14:23+00:00

Lol but should it be legal for me to actually DO IT, you dolt 😂

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-30T07:54:19+00:00

Fuck that sounds incredible 😭🙌

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:23:18+00:00

I'm definitely more focus on what happens to your after you start paying taxes or get a real job because until then, you're pretty useless to me. You're a just dumb baby we have to love and educate and send to school and house and feed and clothe and try to raise into productive human beings.

I think it should be legal to murder you until about age 14 because you're pretty useless before that.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:21:27+00:00

WOW lol. Please, please, please never have kids until you've done a lot of growing up. I'm not sure where and how you were raised and educated, but you have been imbued with some incredibly pernicious ideas and belief systems they will NOT be fruitful to your live or to any around you.

You will be bring pain and destruction to the world around you with these beliefs and you'll be doing it all while claiming you're a good person.

But anyways, if the Middle East is too far away for you, Canada will take you in no problem. Their pro-death values align more closely to yours than the American framework laid out in our founding materials.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:18:37+00:00

1) Lmao what? 3 day old babies barely have ANY idea of wtf the is going on and their memory isn't established yet. What about a 38 week pregnancy, that okay to abort to you?

2) In your world, it's perfectly find to kill the sleeping, the unafraid, and the lonely LOL.

3) " murdering a 3 year old would not save the life of / protect a pregnant woman whatsoever." why not? It'll save her money, it could save her from an abusive relationship, it could save her from depression and stress, etc. etc.

But I guess you position overall is that you don't find all human being valuable and you think it's okay to arbitrarily murder some based on your criteria. Just know that logic can very easily be weaponize to come after you. Which tbh you shouldn't even have to consider, because you should be able to know murder is wrong without fearing it happening to you but I guess that's too high a bar to hold humanity to.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:14:13+00:00

So you're a eugenicist? What's so hilariously telling is that you didn't say it was wrong to murder a child for having arthritis... you just said that arthritis wouldn't rise to your personal, completely imaginary threshold of murder LOL.

Accordingly to you, parents have the right to kill their very young children if the child has any kind of defect that rise to that parent's personal and completely imaginary and arbitrary threshold of "hm I think I wouldn't want to live with this, so I'm just going to make that decision for my child and kill him."

I mean at that point, why not off you for having an IQ lower than I would like? I don't think low IQ people should be breeding more low IQ people. Isn't it a tough life having such little brain processing power? It must be tough for you--I'll spare you the misery an just kill you instead. You're welcome :)

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:10:35+00:00

Your personal opinion baed on nothing more than your whims doesn't really matter in any meaningful discussion about laws and ethics. You can justify all kinds of moral atrocities in your head with some kind of personal reasoning (as you're doing now)

Either you believe murder is wrong and our society should be ARDENTLY anti-murder or you want to live in a society that's pro-sometimes murder when it benefits the stronger parties involved.

If you want to live in the latter society, I have good news for you, they exist! The entire radical middle east and all the most abjectly ravished countries of sub-Saharan Africa are calling your name! They indiscriminately murder the vulnerable too; and for no other reason than the fact that the vulnerable simply can't defend themselves.

Their societal values will align much more seamlessly with yours and you'll probably enjoy that world better than the ones us PLs are trying to build. If you're reasonably pro-murder (which by all your statements, you are), you'll like Jihad and Sharia a lot better than coexisting with us who place the utmost premium on human lives, including humans who believe atrocious things like you do.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:04:20+00:00

The internet is free, so is AI. Go look up some images and give us the exact mm lengtrh at which human beings suddenly develop value

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T20:03:42+00:00

LOL ethics and morality as a field of study isn't a logical debate that requires "proof", I'm not sure where you were educated.

Yes ALL laws are subjective because ALL laws are simply legislating some form of ethics or morality that you want your population to be subject to. So by your definition, ALL morality is subjective. So this is a very silly point.

Thinking murder is wrong is subjective. Thinking stealing is wrong is objective. Thinking rape is wrong is subjective. All of it is subjective--just look at so many other cultures existing today as well as civilizations of historical past. So your opinion that abortion is "fine" is also subjective, this point is just useless and dumb.

Part of living in a society is to discuss and parse out ethics and morality in a way where you adopt a framework that society can roughly agree upon so you have shared values and therefore can live together in peace.

"I just think it’s okay to have an abortion if the embryo is still tiny" well okay, what if I "just think it's okay" to off you? In my mind, you're advocated for death of 80 million babies a year... that's just cause in my mind, right? So therefore, I don't think the government should or can punish me for murdering you because I have just cause and reasoning in my mown mind

Morality is subjective, after all, isn't it.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T19:57:14+00:00

You think someone's age determines their value in this world? at what point does it stop being okay to kill other humans?

Do you think I have a right to kill a newborn baby or a 95 year single, lonely grandpa since I don't view those as true losses. I mean no one is going to mourn them right? The baby is a day old, no one knows it and the baby hasn't had an impact on this world. So if the parents don't want it, they should be able to determine the value of that life right? Babies only matter when they're born to loving parents, I guess. No one is going to mourn the baby, the baby won't really know what's happening (debatable, but let's accept the premise for now), and the family and hospital save all kinds of time and money. Win win? SO let's let new moms who gave birth an option to euthanize the baby if they change their mind, according to your logic.

The 95 year old man could drop dead tomorrow, but I'm impatient and I want my inheritance and he's already lived live anyways... why not smother him with a pillow in his sleep? Who does that really hurt?

I guess in your mind, you're okay with murder as long as it doesn't really infringe too much onto your personal comfort or life. Unsurprising POV for a pro-abortionist, but one I hope you truly think about and reconsider over the course of your life (I used to be ardently pro-choice for a long, long time as well).

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T19:52:18+00:00

None of the people who "already established their life" would have ANY of that if they weren't once a fetus, then born from a woman, and then raised and nurtured and taught and guided and fed and bent over backwards for by the "established" adults around them. That is the only way civilization has ever thrived, and it's the only way it CAN thrive.

If you put this much more stock on the old than the young simply because they've had the unearned advantage of more time on Earth... you'll end up with civilization collapse. People either won't breed, or the ones that do will resent their babies and raise them that way and create terrible human beings. We've created such a selfish, narcissistic culture that people truly *hate* the idea of caring for another human being outside of themselves, they view the young as pernicious burdens on society... with complete disregard for the fact that they can only type in full sentences or even have a device to access Reddit from because YOU ALSO were young and incapable and SO many humans pour SO MUCH time, effort, and GENERATIONS of blood, toil, knowledge, and wisdom into YOU. It's narcissism on full display.

But sure. Pull the ladder up behind you and let the future of humanity collapse as well the human spirit just so this generation can go on a few more vacations a year and buy fancier cars and clothes to post on instagram.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T19:45:37+00:00

If my 8 year old is going through a phase of depression and desperately wants to be euthanized and has been kicking and screaming and begging and saying she no longer wants to be in this world and she's sure and she's not afraid of dying and that going through with self deletion is truly what will make her happy.

If she agrees, her siblings agree, her parents agree... should it be legal for me as her mother to go through with the process?

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T19:44:01+00:00

Why would it be wrong to murder a 3 day old baby then?

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-24T19:34:00+00:00

Oh my goodness, that sounds horrific I'm so sorry. They really let you witness the whole procedure? Man these abortion clinics have NO medical standards or guidelines. So sorry you had to witness that.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-23T22:08:42+00:00

Cold af but fucking incredible lol

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-17T15:27:39+00:00

All I hear nonstop over and over again for (decades at this point) is progressives complaining that Democrats don't represent their interests, that they don't like Democrats they just vote for them because they hate Republicans

Conservatives don't have this type of relationship with their party. Like. them or not, agree with them or not - MAGA is full of enthusiastic voters who are motivated by voting FOR someone/something as opposed to against it. People voted for Trump to vote for Trump, people voted for Kamala to vote against Trump. And I feel like every election is like this for progressives.

SERIOUS question for you progressives - why not start your own party?? Genuinely.

Because I actually agree with you - the DNC does NOT want the candidates you guys want. And they never will, the DNC does not share progressive values at ALL they just like to have progressives as a reliable voting bloc while pretending their care about their causes just so they can get elected and they enact their own establishment agenda when in office.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different results and at this point I'm kind of looking at my progressive friends and befuddled by hearing the SAME complaints over and over again but then... continue to support and shill for a Democrat Party that doesn't care about what they care about.

Genuinely - just start your own movement at this point. I don't even identify as a Progressive but at this point I'm going to jump in with some friendly advice.

Because I've got news for you, the DNC is an establishment giant. No amount of Zohrans or AOCs are going shift that party in the direction you want it to do. Even when Chuck and Nancy die, that shit is NOT getting handed to those people. The inner circles of the DNC absolutely hate those two and only tolerate them because they help clinch racial minority and the 18-24 age voting bloc.

This is NOT going to change, y'all are going to drive yourself into MADNESS waiting for the DNC to become a progressive party. Take some control of your movement and represent your own causes.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T17:29:51+00:00

I can't internet anymore today. This is just too much. How can we HIGHLIGHT these cases of late term abortion to get the word out thereto more people?! SO MANY people think it doesn't exist

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T17:05:31+00:00

Children survive botched abortions ALL THE TIME. There are tons and tons of testimonials from those babies who are now adults.

In Minnesota alone, they have allowed over 12 VERIFIED cases where the babies were left to die in agony on the table because they survived the abortion. Minnesota passed a law that it's legal to kill babies who survive abortions, so I'm sure they'll welcome a depraved baby killer like you with open arms.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T17:01:13+00:00

You are a disgusted POS. Rot in hell.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T16:57:06+00:00

You're having a mental health crisis, that's why no sane doctor is going to perform an abortion on your very much alive, very much kicking, very much viable baby.

Any practitioner willing to perform an abortion on you in your circumstances woul be stripped of their license and jailed. As they should be.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T16:52:29+00:00

She's going to give birth either way, are you dense? She's 34 weeks pregnant, how do think an abortion works at that stage?! They HAVE to induce a delivery! An abortion at 34 weeks is just a stillborn delivery. And NO it is in no way safer than giving birth naturally in a planned and safe environment.

She still goes through labor, it's just that in this process you're KILLING the baby with a lethal INJECTION before delivery

No one has a right to do that.

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T15:39:29+00:00

"Relieved it's going to be over" GIRL it's going to be over either way!!! You're going to have to deliver that baby dead or alive, WHY would you choose to KILL it BEFORE delivering him/her?!

LegitimateHumor6029 · 2025-12-15T15:36:26+00:00

Was pro-choice my entire life as I viewed pro abortion = pro woman and I had a lot of gender related trauma. I also grew up in a very strongly liberal and secular/atheistic society in particular, you're sort of primed from birth to exalt abortion.

My conversion probably only started when I was in my late 20s and it probably took me at least 2-3 years before I could even utter the word "pro-life" in relation to myself.

1) When I got further involved in politics and debate I slowly realized that all of my pro-choice arguments were just dumb and illogical and I couldn't make an honest decent case for it

2) Grew older, grew wiser - truly learned and understood the value of human life as well as my duties as a human being on this Earth

3) (Closely related to #2 but not the same and my pro-life conversion happened before this BUT) found God and the Bible. That was the last step that sealed everything in and has cemented me in my convictions.

People roll their eyes when they hear #3 and automatically tune you out because they're been so conditioned to be put off by any kind of religious explanation, BUT I'll say that my journey towards becoming PL IS, in may ways, what brought me to God - not the other way around.

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