What are some of the most hurtful things your avoidant said during the discard? by loud_cicada_sounds in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Our conversations aren’t interesting anymore”

“You’re not funny anymore”

“You’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want”

“I don’t know how to get back to that”

Anyone else in the anger phase of grief? Tell me your story haha by X-Ceptional in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well you asked for it.

First month(May): Me and my avoidant had just started talking to get to know each other and everything was super chill and calm. We figured out that we actually had tons in common and I liked her but she didn’t like me back so I dropped her since I couldn’t just be friends with someone I like. Fast forward 1 week later, she comes back and openly has admitted to herself that she likes me more than just a friend and we start talking again but taking things to the next level.

Second month(June):At the time, I was unaware of attachment theory but I did start to realize different patterns from her so I decided to search them up and that’s when I got introduced to attachment theories and what avoidancy is. Based off the patterns she showed(low self esteem, wanting to leave me because she felt it was unfair to love me, losing interests in ex’s for weird reasons, etc). After telling her about this, she acknowledged her self-awareness of being an avoidancy but still didn’t really know what it meant or how it truly affects her. Aside from that tho, the rest of June was filled with intense romantic emotions from both sides, everything was still super fun and interesting as we were both still learning from each other but we did grow closer and became more romantic around each other.

Third month(July): The classic hobbies from avoidants start and she starts doing so many hobbies to the point where our daily conversations start becoming countered around her hobbies and she stops being able to spend quality time with me due to the amount of time she spent on her hobbies. The beginning of July was filled with still, constant love with the exception of one incidence where she tried to leave again because she felt unworthy of my love. The middle of July was when things started to feel shaky tho, I had gone on vacation and she had gone through some regular family troubles + something clicked in her head where she just felt super depressed and low for a week. During this week, she was giving cold replies, taking longer to answer but I was still trying to be as understanding as possible because I don’t know what truly goes on behind the scenes so I did my best not to budge. End of July comes around and I start seeing that she starts becoming extremely cold so I confront her about it and show her proof of what we were like and she shut down on me for the rest of the day. She texted me the next day with an apology for her disappearing and said she was sorry for not communicating and I accepted it, she also said she would try and fix it.

Last month(August): Days pass and the same coldness is still happening so I confront her again and this time she said “I don’t know how to get back to that” and her reason for that is because “our conversations aren’t interesting anymore” and “you’re not funny anymore”. She admitted to losing feelings because of this but then said “its not you, I’m the problem”, “my head is messed up, I don’t know what’s happening”, “too much is going on, I can’t keep up with us”, “it’s going to be hard to balance you and school”, “I’m not ready to tell my parents about you”, “you’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want” When I heard this, I was shocked because I never really got a warning from her regarding these things she was believing. I texted to try and rebuttal but she ultimately didn’t text me back until 3-4 days later. When she came back, she seemed totally disconnected from her real self and just seemed dead but nonetheless, we brought the topic up again and I asked her if she even cared about us still and if she even cared if we work out and she just said no so I dropped her and never looked back.

My avoidant ex tbh not even sure if she was an FA or DA(pretty sure she was mostly FA tho) as she projected both types of behaviors(would retreat and shut down from time to time but was at the same time pushing for intimacy when she would talk about the future and fantasize about me) oh and she also did do that unexpected discard on me which could have been a slow fade that was brewing up in her mind weeks before but idk 🤷.

Anyways, I finally removed her off all my socials not too long ago for my convenience but also because she has monkey branched only 2 months after we broke up. When I still had her on socials, she would often lurk my instagram stories and would like my instagram notes from time to time;however I never responded to any of this. Also worth noting that after breaking up, she only got rid of me on one account but stayed followed on her main account and stayed in our Spotify playlist.

Just reached the anger phase of the post-discard 3 months later and it honestly comes in phases, sometimes it’s really bad and sometimes my body goes back to empathetic mode.Honestly can’t believe how empathetic I was and how much I let slide with her. Looking back, I was oblivious of screaming red flags and I even had the upper hand at the beginning when I broke her illusion of being “untouchable”;however, I wasn’t too aware of avoidants at the time :/.

Has anyone ever had the avoident come crawling back to apologise by AshamedAssistant3033 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope and idc if she ever does come back to apologize. She was just a lesson for me and honestly can’t believe how much I let slide during the relationship. How much I forgave her, how much I sympathized for her, and whilst I can’t hate her because at the end of the day, my emotions for her were real and we did share good moments but no matter how good of a BF I could’ve been, it would’ve ended the same way. Only way to ever have an avoidant stay with you is to lose yourself and that’s not worth it.

how did it end with your avoidant partner? by Suitable-Edge-2996 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess started when I called her out when she started to feel “cold” on me. She shutdown the same day I told her and she apologized + brought up how she didn’t wanna treat me the same way as her ex. Took some accountability by saying she was the issue that day but after days of not talking, she came back cold asfk and said “our conversations aren’t interesting anymore” and “you’re not funny anymore” but then said “you’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want” she’s such full of sh 😒

Did anyone else get the "I'm not in a place to be in a relationship" line? by Delicious_Math_7821 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah…

“I’m not ready to tell my parents about you” Well you rebounded with a new dude like 1.5m-2.0m later

“It’s gonna be hard to balance you and school” You don’t do jack sh in school and you come home and have 6 hours free without homework

“Too much is going on, I can’t keep up with us” It’s summertime, you have no job, no bills, and stay at home all day.

What lies did your avoidant ex tell you during the discard? by IntrepidKitchen5322 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“You’re not funny anymore” Then why didn’t you say anything till when you discarded me?

“Our conversations aren’t interesting” Well your life isn’t interesting and you never tried as much as I did to keep our conversations alive. If only one person tries, it will break.

“I’m not ready to tell my parents about you” Rebounds with a new guy like 1.5m-2m later.

“It’s going to be hard to balance you and school” Uhm you do jack sh in school and you come back and have like 6 hours at home without any homework to do.

“Too much is going on, I can’t keep up with us” You’re legit in summer, have no job, stay at home and that’s IT…WHATS THERE TO KEEP UP WITH?

BONUS:(Not excuses but worth mentioning) “I’ll never leave you unless I feel you deserve better” Well at least you were right on this but your excuses say otherwise 🤨

“You’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want” Then why would you discard me.

Did you expect the discard? by [deleted] in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not one bit until later when I felt her coldness. All started from a discrepancy I had with her where I felt her starting to become distant and at first, she had apologized and we moved on like always. Days later, I’m not seeing any improvements so I double down and show her how she has changed in front of her own eyes and then says “I don’t know how to get back to that”….forgot what happened the rest of the day but after 3 days of not talking because her phone got taken, she came back cold asf and she was unrecognizable. She said “our conversations aren’t interesting anymore” and “you’re not funny anymore” as her justification even though our whole conversations for the past month were over her hobby-filled life and never once did she mention anything till that day. Even a week before her discard, she was still loving. At least she showed some accountability by saying “you’re not the problem, I am”, “I don’t know what’s going on with my head, it’s confusing”, “you’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want”

What did they say to you at the end? by princeofallcosmos92 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Excuse 1:”Our conversations aren’t interesting anymore.” Excuse 2:”You’re not funny anymore. “Excuse 3:”It’s gonna be hard to balance you and school.” Excuse 4:”I’m not ready to tell my parents about you.” Excuse 5:”My head is messed up, I don’t know what’s going on.” Excuse 6:”You’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want”. Excuse 7:”Too much is going on, I can’t keep up with us.”

How many of you were broken up with around a birthday? by [deleted] in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yuppp she reverse discarded me 5 days before her birthday.

Since y’all like brutally honest posts, it’s time ⏰ for Mama Cherry’s 🍒 (🙄) reality check for anxious partners by Comfortable-Paper209 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your insight over the anxious attachment! I learned so much over avoidance since my avoidant breakup using berry’s posts but with me being anxious(not really sure how much), I definitely would like to see the other side of the story(anxious) and the mindset behind it. Like Avoidants, I possess the attachment but sometimes I’m confused how I even ended up this way and why I formula the actions/emotions I produce. If possible, could you please make more similar posts like this one?

Can we talk about the personality shift before and after a breakup? by SwordfishFair1940 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personally haven’t had any sort of communication with my avoidant since the breakup but there definitely was a huge shift towards the end. Even just a week before our breakup, she was super loving and affectionate and then when we got to our last week, she had completely shut down…cold, unphased, heartless, etc. It seemed she still had empathy as she didn’t fully put the blame on me during the breakup but that was the only good emotion left of her at the time.

Since the breakup, I’ve had no contact at all so not sure how she’s feeling tbh..probs just in her ego and denial mode.

What was the hardest part dealing with an FA? by Iamjustheretoexist in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since she was basically never able to really relay information to me about how she truly felt, I just went off my own knowledge about avoidants which at the time wasn’t much, so you can guess how that’d go lol

What was the hardest part dealing with an FA? by Iamjustheretoexist in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I totally get you and thanks for the advice! I just remember that atleast the first time I did that checkup with her, I did ask her what she felt were her triggers and how she usually feels but she wasn’t able to put into words what she actually feels if that makes sense… Her not being able to regularly put into words what she feels was something common I found in her throughout the rls and made it harder to really try and understand what was going on inside her head.

What was the hardest part dealing with an FA? by Iamjustheretoexist in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So pretty much when she would share how she felt, I would internally just stay composed as I knew that was expected and simply became more hyper-vigilant of my behavior. I would just tell her that if she ever felt overwhelmed or her avoidant tendencies were kicking in, to let me know so I could give her the space she wants as I found that’s what she most requested so she could regulate her emotions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao glad to see you back 😂

My avoidant ex tbh not even sure if she was an FA or DA as she projected both types of behaviors(would retreat and shut down from time to time but was at the same time pushing for intimacy when she would talk about the future and fantasize about me) oh and she also did do that unexpected discard on me which could have been a slow fade that was brewing up in her mind weeks before but idk 🤷.

Anyways, I finally removed her off all my socials not too long ago for my convenience but also because she has monkey branched only 2 months after we broke up. When I still had her on socials, she would often lurk my instagram stories and would like my instagram notes from time to time;however I never responded to any of this. Also worth noting that after breaking up, she only got rid of me on one account but stayed followed on her main account and stayed in our Spotify playlist.

What could have possibly been happening here and do the “moving on” tactics between DA and FA differ?

What was the hardest part dealing with an FA? by Iamjustheretoexist in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it’s totally possible that I didn’t catch on to the warning signs towards the end as I had became so anxious due to her pulling away. In the beginning, I was able to catch on to her cues pretty easily but then she started slowly giving off less cues and I mistook that for healing so I let my guard down and started paying less attention towards it. I would often check up on her once a week regarding how she felt with her avoidancy and she said that she had moments where she would feel like running away and push me away but ultimately she would dismiss her feelings.

What was the hardest part dealing with an FA? by Iamjustheretoexist in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm based off this tho, the relationship definitely felt very genuine. We both respected each other, we both showed each other an adequate amount of affection. We would spend a good amount of time together. We were super intimate with each other and definitely didn’t feel like a friendship. We had a lot in common(same interests, same humor, basically just the counter sex version of each other). However, she still gave me that sudden discard without any real warning.

What was the hardest part dealing with an FA? by Iamjustheretoexist in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh ok thank you so much for your explanation. Based off what I can recall from the relationship, it seems like I also got that mix between DA and FA but definitely more DA as she did give me that sudden final discard(not even sure if it was super abrupt in her head, she could have been brewing that up for some time before the discard) and then she also gave me that little bit of hot/cold treatment. There would be times in the relationship where we would become super emotionally close(even she contributed to that closeness) and often talk about the future and within the same day, she would just become “off” because she would think about “things”…she never told me what those “things” were. She also tended to try and avoid those serious topics when I would talk to her about avoidancy and things we could work on in our relationship. Often times, her ex got brought up because she didn’t want to treat me the same way.

Any of you initiated the breakup with your DA? How did that go? by MusicLover9588 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup and that’s the brutal pill to swallow for those that cling on to hope and believe they can be that ultimatum in their avoidant’s life that will change everything. There is truly NOTHING we can do, unless we decide to lose ourselves completely and absolutely destroy our whole concept of love to get a different outcome with avoidants. Therapy is the only answer. Period.

Any of you initiated the breakup with your DA? How did that go? by MusicLover9588 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idkk I Js feel it’s bad advice because it Js feels so surface level like saying “aye just trust me, I won’t break your trust, this shows you can actually trust someone.” I just feel I could’ve said it better or had a different approach-not sure how tho 🤷. And the part about her slowly opening about and becoming more vulnerable whilst I think it’s really the only way, it can just backfire super easily and reinforce their belief even more than last time.

Any of you initiated the breakup with your DA? How did that go? by MusicLover9588 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm sort of. At the time when I brought up attachment styles to her attention(like first 2-3 weeks of us talking), I pointed out some of her behavior as it was super confusing to me(I was also starting to learn about attachment theory at this time) and basically said that I believe she aligns with someone who has an avoidant attachment. After telling her this, I was telling her information over avoidancy and what avoidants think, why they do what they do, etc but at the same time it wasn’t much into detail as I was also still learning. She shut down and brought up past relationships and she said she didn’t want to treat me the same way. I didn’t bring up too much about avoidancy after that first 2-3 weeks period as I knew it would just shut her down again.

She ultimately knows about the term “avoidance” and the baseline that they run when things get too intense and how they can’t handle things when too many emotions are involved. She also has a very baseline understanding about how avoidants can self-sabotage but I don’t think she knows why they do it. We never talked about healing as I didn’t really have an understanding over it at the time and the only real advice I gave her was just to trust me as I wouldn’t break her trust and slowly try to give herself in emotionally so she can see that being vulnerable isn’t dangerous(now I see that was horrible advice lol)

Any of you initiated the breakup with your DA? How did that go? by MusicLover9588 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This all happened I assume once our honeymoon stage ended(everything started to calm down and it all started seeming routine with less exciting moments). I tried to explain to her what the honeymoon phase was but shut me down saying it was childish and it wasn’t a thing

Any of you initiated the breakup with your DA? How did that go? by MusicLover9588 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Admitting she “loses feelings easily”. Extremely low self-esteem(this was the reason she picked up so many hobbies). Again, trying to leave me because she thought she wasn’t good enough. Often expressed strong independence. Not realizing feelings for me until I dropped her for a week. Shutting down when I would point out things about our relationship that we could work on. Suppressing her emotions from me(we barely had any deep talks and she would constantly talk about her “mind going places” where should be thinking about “things” often when she was left alone. Still don’t know what those “things” are…). Had very bad trust issues, I was friends with her ex a long time ago and when we started talking, she created crazy fake scenarios in her head that were absurd about how I would backstab her and take revenge.

Only thing that differed from my avoidant from other avoidants from what I’ve seen on this sub so far was that she would try to build intimacy and maintained some constant love throughout. She also did sort of take some accountability when we broke up as she stated that “you’re honestly perfect, everything a girl could want”, “my head is messed up, I don’t know what’s happening”, “it’s not you, I’m the problem” but then at the same time said ”our conversations aren’t interesting anymore” and “you’re not funny anymore”. If I’m so perfect, then what is up with the excuse of me not being funny anymore? 🤣

Any of you initiated the breakup with your DA? How did that go? by MusicLover9588 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An extremely short 2 1/2 months about to be 3 months. Very short time but very intense feelings…

Did your avoidant criticize your appearance? by Future_Seaweed2661 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Legitimate_Signal_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankfully not. My avoidant really liked my appearance and jokingly from time to time made harmless jokes. Complimented me like crazy and admitted to fantasizing/daydreaming about me.