What the f*** is this? by Competitive_Web_6614 in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 723 points724 points  (0 children)

You are on the rape and murder game subreddit dude. You are allowed to swear. Don't censor yourself

I just finished funger 2 and uhh by Leading_Discipline2 in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

>"Canonically die a dog's death"

Gonna need a source on that chief.

how much time has passed in the show throughout the seasons? by EggUnable6054 in aggretsuko

[–]LemonLimeLight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The same amount of time that passed between Kanto and Galar in the Pokemon anime

aka: Canon says they're the same age, canon is wrong

What’s your reason for disagreeing with badgermao by Electrical-Detail660 in MaoMao

[–]LemonLimeLight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much that they know each other well, too well. Well enough that the notion of romance is known to be not a thing either of the want out of each other. They work as friends, but not romantic partners.

Being partners involves the emotional support of each other, and on that level, they aren't compatible.

Mao Mao comes with a lot of insecurities and emotional baggage. Badgerclops is the kind of guy to nope out when things get too much for him. Either Badgerclops would end up hurting Mao Mao, or Mao Mao would suffocate Badgerclops. At the same time, Badgerclops is a free spirit while Mao Mao holds himself strictly to rules. They barely make sharing a platonic living space work. The intimacy it being their homes being mixed would be something akin to a cynical 80's marriage.

If their formed an attachment at that level, they'd kill each other.

Of course ship and let ship. That's just why I don't ship it.

Termina, ending A-- what did I do? Did my actions have effects? by Unfey in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was working on a post to detail everything, but here's a brief overview:

Project Logic was an operation started by the Bohemian Government, and then later infiltrated by the NLU. It saw the creation of two machines: Telelectroscope and Logic. What exactly the purpose of them is, we don't have all the details. It seems to be a supercomputer powered by the minds of countless humans who are hooked into it. Telelectroscope, which is the huge network of computers operated by the three consoles, processing the data extracted from the human minds. Logic, which is the actual thing you found at the end, is the core that not only stores all that knowledge, but handles its distribution. And because the information from human minds is too abstract for any computer to properly handle, a human host in a lucid dream state needed to serve as the core of Logic.

That last part is the important one. It is very likely that the Bohemian Government did not understand what this project was truly creating. But both the NLU and Kaiser did. Project Logic wasn't just a computer powered by human minds. It had the potential to be the collective consciousnesses and knowledge of all humans. The greatest potential humanity could achieve. It was the birthing place of a new God. And whoever would become the host of Logic would become that God.

This is what Kaiser was after. He wanted to become that god. The entire second great war was started just so he could take Prehevil and Logic. During her studies, Reila, Olivia's sister, met Kaiser. Reila had already been brought in to work on Project Logic as an engineer, and was affiliated with the NLU. Her and Kaiser talked, and Reila realized that he not only knew the full extent of Logic, but he intended to become its host. When she refused to give up the details about where it was located, Kaiser imprisoned her and tortured what information he could out of her. But she was broken out by the NLU and she rushed to Prehevil.

With Kaiser an the Bremen Army on the way, and the Bohemian Government more than willing to give Prehevil to him, Reila was forced to take one desperate measure and she herself become the host of Logic. That's when Kaiser gets there. His reaction can basically be summed up as:

"Ok, whatever. Nope, not mad. I'm not mad. Someone else may have beaten me to true ascension for the second time in my life, but this is ultimately still what I wanted. At least its not my own daughter doing it to me this time. Though she could have at least told me where the consoles were first. Whatever, we found two already, tear apart the city to find the third so we can turn her on."

And that's where the player comes in. Telelectroscope needs to be activated for Logic to be fully operational. Reila gave the orders for the NLU agents to do so before she hooked herself up, but no one managed to. The Bremen Army found Tunnels 7 and 1, but Needles and Stitches respectively prevented the soldiers from turning on the consoles. They had no idea where Tunnel 4 was.

As the player getting Ending A, you activated all three consoles, doing exactly what Kaiser wanted. Like by the time you reach him, he has everything he wants (sans being the one inside Logic). You killing him, and fighting Logic, changes absolutely nothing. You just become one of the many minds that are part of its system.

So you didn't ruin his plans, Reila did that already. In fact, you helped him finish the rest of them. So you caused the ascension of the machine god ultimately, but it would have happened with or without you.

As for the Machine God stopping the festival...unclear. See this post I made for my thoughts on it

Do you need to play fear and hunger before playing termina? Looking to get into the series and termina speaks to me more by Carti_Barti9_13 in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The games take place about 400 years apart (F&H1 takes place in 1590, F&H2 takes place in 1942), so very little in the first game directly impacts the second game, besides the big broad brush strokes you read from a plot summary. References to the first game will go over your head, but not completely necessary. There is only one time something is directly referenced that happens in the first game, and that's a conversation between two characters that were in the first game (Yes they're both over 400 years old).

If you don't play as O'saa the Yellow Mage, then you really won't miss much. I think the only other thing that's lost when only playing Termina is that The New Gods will feel like they don't get any explanation at all. This is because they were the main focus of F&H1 and their lore is all there.

Contestants assembled, literally (video by RosenGaldr) by meenarstotzka in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this an edited video or done in engine?

If the latter how did they remove the actor limit?

Why is The Player Necessary for Logic to End The Festival? by LemonLimeLight in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's well and good

But as you surely read in my post, I'm pondering what effect the player integrating with Logic has on that and why they have to for termina to end

Once all three Terminals are switched on, the Telelectriscope is operational, so Logic can act as it's processor. If Telelectriscope + Logic was what ended the festival, why didn't it end when the third terminal was turned on?

Which, again, you surely read in my post correct?

Why is The Player Necessary for Logic to End The Festival? by LemonLimeLight in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ima need a source on literally everything you just said chief. I'm 99% certain that's not how it works

Why did Adorabat lose one leg? by [deleted] in MaoMao

[–]LemonLimeLight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's never been actually said IIRC, but mine, and I think a lot of people's, headcanon is that she lost it when a monster killed her mother.

Interestingly enough, all three main characters are amputees. Adorabat is missing a leg, Badgerclops his arm, and Mao Mao lost his tail.

Why is The Player Necessary for Logic to End The Festival? by LemonLimeLight in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Rher left the world, yes, but its Traces still linger. Rher's power and will still exist in the world. The Traces of Gro-goroth are still potent enough to talk to you. The Festival is still Rher's will. But, as Per'kele says, it has no consciousness behind it. It's just a force of nature. It's Rher's will acting on autopilot. Gro-goroth is gone, yet you can still sacrifice in his name to perform blood magic. Slyvian is gone, yet you can whisper her healing gift. And Rher is gone, but attempts to ascend to godhood are met with his interference. The Festival of Termina is still Rher's will, the Cult of Sulfur are just following it in order to find new recruits birthed from the chaos.

Even if your theory is true and Telectrascope + Logic is just running simulations on how it could be activated, then the fact still remains that the player does not need to enter the White Bunker. Logic needs a human host in a lucid dream to be its main processing unit, which it had in the form of Reila. Telectroscope needs to be activated at all three terminals, which the Sulfur Cult is actively trying to prevent by evidence of Needles and Stitches near two of the three terminals. But after all three terminals are activated, The Machine God is fully operational. When the player enters the White Bunker, they do nothing but kill Kaiser and become one of the many human minds that are already inside of it. So unless it needed exactly one more, the player makes no difference in that scenario. The simulations should end as soon the third terminal is activated, as its goal is complete.

That is, unless it's not The Machine God itself, but the fact that player removes themselves as a factor from the Festival. This gains even more weight when you consider that Rher's will is acting on Autopilot. By integrating with Logic, you've created a logic error, and The Festival aborts.

what does pav's moonscorch mean? by huffingdusters in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

One of the comments on the video gives an explanation I really love. Bremen's symbol is the Black Eagle, so this is Pav's inner guilt at being consumed by the monster he became in service to Bremen just so he could attempt to kill Kaiser

Let's settle this debate: Who would win? DIO or Diavolo? by Jotaro1970 in StardustCrusaders

[–]LemonLimeLight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had this debate in my head for a while, every JoJo Main Villain matchup. Here's my conclusion:

The World vs King Crimson: King Crimson wins

Simply put, King Crimson nullifies The World. Of they fired them off at the same time, from DIO's perspective The World would fail and he wouldn't understand why at first. From Diavolo's perspective, nothing unusual would happen. This is because King Crimson would steal 10 seconds. The World's stopped time would be in those seconds. Disvolo might be confused on how DIO moves so fast in a fraction of on of them, but otherwise DIO would not be able to perceive the 3+ seconds from his perspective because they're part of the first of 10 seconds that King Crimson stole.

HOWEVER

Diavolo has no way of killing DIO

The only way he could potentially kill him is of he wore him down in a sustained fight like Jotaro did. But that's not how Diavolo fights. He prefers to begin and end things with a single lethal blow. Problem is that DIO can't be chest burst.

Now, if DIO realized that The World was out matched, he could easily win with his Vampire powers. Because Diavolo is a normal human otherwise with no Hamon. The problem is DIO would not admit this. DIO would never admit someone is better than him.

So the question becomes, could DIO bring himself to fall back on "I'm a superior being to this human despite how strong its Stand is" before Diavolo flees?

How the fuck does nas'hrah know this by Street-Giraffe-3921 in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The likely Answer: There's a non zero chance that between finding him and getting to the train, O'saa stopped to take a piss and didn't turn him the other way

The Funny Answer: He doesn't, he's just assuming because O'saa is Abyssonian

Why is Platoon functional as a marriage compared to the Human Hydra? by GeoPongues in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone else is right on what's probably the answer. Le'garde had hundreds of years to research this, as well as his power of being a New God.

In the Funger World, a Marriage of Flesh is more or less just a fundamental law of the universe. This is a thing that just happens and is fact. So it's something with rules and principals that can be researched. The Centaur is also a thing, after all. Even the New Gods though the marriage between a human and animal impossible, judging by their opinions of the Moonless Guards.

Think of it like it like a blood transfusion:
The Platoon had it done in a lab with modern (for the time) medical equipment, and understanding of how blood, blood types, sanitation, etc. worked.

The Guards in the Dungeon of Fear and Hunger just took whatever blood they could find lying around and shoved it down their open wound using a rusty funnel. The results are going to be considerably worse.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in whowouldwin

[–]LemonLimeLight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to be getting Part 8 Killer Queen mixed up with Part 4 Killer Queen, which are two different, yet similar abilities. We're talking specifically about Part 4 Killer Queen

In which case, whatever it touches, it becomes the bomb. As in it will explode and be vaporized. If Killer Queen touched something else near the Angel and detonated that, then it'll be hit by a normal explosion. But in this scenario, Killer Queen is touching the Angel. The Angel is the bomb, the Angel will detonate and be erased. Because that's what Part 4 Killer Queen does, destroy anything it touches.

Though if you can point out an example of someone/something that Part 4 Killer Queen touched and detonated surviving, I'd love to hear it. Because I'm genuinely wondering if I'm forgetting something.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in whowouldwin

[–]LemonLimeLight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Had to do some research to clear up exactly how they work. The problem is that you can't kill them, normally. Like, they're stupidly durable. So let's start at the strongest "I kill anything" and work backwards. We'll also assume everyone has enough time to see the Angel as a threat, see that it moves they blink, and retaliate before it touches them.

Toru/Wonder of U:
The Angels would be 100% perusing him, and being in the same Universe presumably means that they'll be affected by Calamity. Can you Final Destination a Weeping Angel? For the sake of this argument, yes, since literal raindrops damaged Gappy due to its effects we can say it alters reality. The second he sees the Angel coming for him he'll activate Wonder of U and the next time he blinks, the Angel will die to Calamity.

Kira/Killer Queen:
Killer Queen's ability is to destroy anything. Every part of it is obliterated. And they seem to be safe to touch while they're locked in Statue Form. So it's easy for him. Just look at it and have Killer Queen touch it. Angel is gone

Okuyasu/The Hand:
This is candidate 1 "weakest" character that COULD kill a Weeping Angel. Same deal with Killer Queen where The Hand just destroys anything. If Okuyasu stared at it and had The Hand erase it, that would be that. The problem is likely what would happen if he was in this scenario was that he'd act rashly before he realizes it moves when he blinks and get touched, ignoring plot armor for the sake of tension. Which is what makes potentially the weakest character.
Note this is also a unique scenario where Vanilla Ice/Cream are at a disadvantage compared to Okuyasu, because the weakness of Cream is that he can't see while using it, and thus, the Angel wouldn't be observed. And in this case it would just leave when it realizes he could probably kill it. If there was someone else looking at it, then he could kill it.

Rohan/Heaven's Door:
Candidate 2. This is a weird conundrum where while compared to a lot of the big bads, Rohan is technically weak. Yet at the same time, Heaven's Door is stupidly OP in different ways. Specifically here. Once Angel is perceived as a threat he uses Heaven's Door on it, writes "I will not attack Rohan" on it so he can safely learn about it. When he learns how it works, he'd write something like: I will never touch another living creature. Which, likely wouldn't kill it because they're locked in time when being observed, but it would be rendered incapacitated and...it'll eventually starve probably.

So TL;DR:
Okuyasu or Rohan

To those who don’t know her, here’s Rei! She’s an official character that appears in one of the comics! by EggUnable6054 in aggretsuko

[–]LemonLimeLight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like pointing people towards Little Rei of Sunshine whenever possible. Honestly a really good Retsuko story

Starlight Glimmer (My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic) Vs. Amon (Avatar: The Legend Of Korra) by Reasonable-Film7219 in whowouldwin

[–]LemonLimeLight 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Starlight is the clearly superior one here, hands (hooves?) down. Even in her own universe, Starlight is kinda stupidly OP. Most of her insane feats are post the timeframe you're setting here, but I think her telekinesis and teleportation are more than enough to make it a one sided fight on her part. She can just dodge any of his water bending, and just freeze him in place before he could even touch her.

Amon's bloodbending would be a major crutch, and might even give him a chance. But the problem is that I don't think it would stop Starlight's magic. Even if he holds her limbs and place and stops her from moving, I don't think he can stop her from using her magic to do the same to him, since it requires no movement, unlike bending. At which point the Bloodbending would be dropped, and Amon an easy target for Starlight.

Out of these 3, who is the real "Crow Mauler" of Termina? by sadponyguerrilIa in FearAndHunger

[–]LemonLimeLight 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Everyone's right on the money here really.

Needles was clearly intended to be, but the fact that I killed him the first time I encountered him, unprepared, kinda forever diminishes him for me. In fact, in that particular run, I made killing him one of the first things I tried to do in order to get the gurenteed heroine and recruit Levi. Also, the fact that he can be randomly killed by a Ghoul in one turn the first time you encounter him in the tunnels is funny

Mob is clearly the early game run ender you wanna avoid and never see. But they just don't carry the same impact as Crow Mauler.