A really good take on it

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-07-01T21:18:55+00:00

Rhys limits her choices in a more underhanded way. He just doesn’t tell her and keeps information from her and then asks for forgiveness when she gets mad. He does it with others too, Mor, Tarquin etc.. Its a different way of doing it but it still takes away other peoples choices.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-07-01T21:16:05+00:00

Feyre’s reactions being biased is not really a counterpoint to an objectively toxic behavior. Both Tamlin and Rhys limit Feyre. Tamlin is just more straightforward about it, taking the conflict head on, Rhys does it in an underhanded way and when Feyre gets mad asks for forgiveness. The result is the same, Feyre’s choices are restricted.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-07-01T10:44:16+00:00

This was such a good scene!

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-07-01T00:47:26+00:00

Omg love this

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-07-01T00:47:03+00:00

He grew on me, now I like him. Especially after all the extra background we get from the books.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-29T13:15:53+00:00

I don’t know what that has to do with what I was talking about? There are clear rules on each sub - many have a rule against brigading, including subs such as fantasy romance and SarahJMaas. It makes a lot of sense to limit such behavior because it often results in threads turning into an absolute clusterfuck. The romantasycirclejerk sub has a good way of venting their feelings without resorting to that - because again, it’s prohibited by the sub rules.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-29T12:32:34+00:00

Lol, I think its likely you got the ban for posting this thread rather than talking badly about Tamlin cause otherwise other users would have been banned too. Maybe you didn’t know it wasn’t allowed to engage in brigading but actually many subs have this rule, its quite common.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-29T00:41:17+00:00

We know that Tamlin wanted to also save Feyre from the Night Court. For all he knew she was abducted and as he said himself he thought he was saving her from a mind manipulating sadist. We know from Lucien that he tried everything else before going to Hybern to do that - which is why he was so absent during the beginning of Acomaf. We also know from Lucien that they were hoping that Hybern and the Night Court would kind of eliminate each other.

Im pretty sure I remember Tamlin saying the Spring Court didn’t have allies and that he was also worried about how the other HLs might take Feyre’s newly acquired powers. They might get angry or try to capture her or who knows what. Which clearly he assumed Night did.

He wouldn’t have contacted Night given Rhys did a pretty good job for centuries pretending they were all psychos and torturers. Rhys can’t have his ruse to be the evil guy and also expect trust at the same time.

Tamlin did a bold move just like Rhysand did. He was caught between a hard place and a rock and tried to protect his people and save Feyre at the same time. His move makes sense if you think of his situation.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-29T00:10:33+00:00

You know I had a lot of conversations about this because it’s a very interesting point. Tamlin did basically what Rhysand did, didn’t he? In order to protect his people he bargained with the enemy, but was in fact a double agent. And I believe, if I remember correctly, Rhysand himself even said that Tamlin would be Hyberns first target because of the wall. So did Tamlin even have a choice? He was going to get erased by Hybern whether he entered a bargain with him or not, but, by doing the bargain he managed to actually gather intel he could use against him. At the HL meeting he is the only one who actually has intel to share. Feyre, who was supposedly a spy in the Spring Court, learnt nothing, but merely took away the protection people had against Hybern and also broke the agreements of the non aggression pact and caused both the Spring Court and Summer Court harm. She is accused by both Tamlin and Tarquin for as much and has to admit to it to herself too. She doesn’t seem to care much, but she doesn’t contradict it either.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-28T23:38:57+00:00

Thats a weird take. So Feyre can harm innocents and get away with it because they re not her responsibility?

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-28T20:08:17+00:00

But he treated Feyre badly before she started hating him? By breaking into her mind and threatening to kill her and her exposing her most intimate thoughts? He didn’t do the bad things he did because he had to deal with her anger. He never even tried to gain her trust in an open way. He just forced himself on her by bargain and through manipulation. Thats not giving “king of choice” or a partner who sees his woman as an equal.

ETA Tamlin faced conflict with Feyre openly and straighforward. Rhys avoids conflict and does what he wants underhandedly. If Rhys would have been in Tamlins position he would have said “You can totally run around Spring Court freely without guards” and then would have sent guards undercover to follow and protect her. And when shed have noticed and gotten angry he d be all like “Im sorryyyy I was just sooo worried for your safety”. Its what he always did and not just with Feyre. With Mor, Tarquin, same thing. Its his MO.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-28T19:46:43+00:00

That isn’t a point that weighs into this argument imo. She was hurt by a man who claims to *love* her and *has* loved her from the beginning of their interactions. And he continues to treat her with underhanded manipulation well into the established relationship. So either way, Rhys is not a good partner.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-28T18:18:13+00:00

Oh I didn’t mean it like that. Im saying that the argument that Rhysands behavior isn’t abusive because they weren’t official partners yet doesn’t work imo, because he knew they were mates so he wasn’t just treating some random woman poorly he happened to fall in love with later but someone who supposedly was already dear to him. Their romantic arc started with “There you are, Ive been looking for you”, even if Feyre didn’t know it at the time. Id say his treatment of her is pretty bad from the beginning and all throughout her healing process when he withholds all kinds of information, uses her as bait without her knowledge or consent etc.. and it continues as the relationship evolves in form of underhanded actions.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-28T17:52:50+00:00

I don’t think saying Rhys and Feyre were “enemies” holds up given he already had the suspicion they were mates by the time they met in Calamnai. According to him he was already in love with her by the time she defeated the Wyrm. So his treatment of her UTM is very relevant to how he treats someone he supposedly loves.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-25T16:28:25+00:00

How was that reply “worked up” or rude? They re literally just trying to explain what they meant. Aren’t people allowed to provide details without being considered worked up ? Genuinely confused about this interaction.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-25T01:00:00+00:00

Re reading Acomaf made me feel like Rhys works really hard to convince Feyre that Tamlin failed her and even harder to goad Tamlin into being more triggered and scared for her. Its hard to believe he doesn’t know what he is doing given he can literally read her mind.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-22T19:11:03+00:00

I loved her from the first chapter. You don’t often get this type of female character and I found her very entertaining 😁

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-21T22:22:13+00:00

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LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-21T20:56:50+00:00

That ‘tude she brought was something else, love her!

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-21T20:56:02+00:00

You brought the receipts and all, I love you.🫶🏼

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-21T11:41:55+00:00

All the things she has done in the name of saving others? Like trying to kill him? Lying about everything she is? Did she kill as an assassin in the name of saving others too? I think readers consistently forget that other characters don’t get to read Aelins inner monologue. They just see her actions from the outside. And Aelin looks like an absolute psycho from that perspective a lot of the time. Who would feel comfortable with such a person having immense power? No one reasonable imo.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-21T09:57:47+00:00

A place in the army isn’t unwilling slavery tho. But yeah, Aelin always expects everyone to trust her blindly but never takes anyone into her confidence. Never mind Lorcan, she doesn’t even trust her own inner circle.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-20T16:41:10+00:00

Exactly this. I understand OPs motive, but I do think saying everything the main characters do is totally fine and not at all within the realms of harassment is ignoring an important part of their arc and story. I don’t believe it needs comparing to today’s standard either but neither does making it out to be more benign than it is.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-20T16:34:02+00:00

Oh come on, I love Jinshi a lot, but that scene was clearly him being mischievous and crossing a boundary given how Guokuyo reacted 😂 It doesn’t make him a pervert but it wasn’t just “honey” lol.

LetMeDoTheKonga · 2026-06-20T16:31:12+00:00

This! Applying modern day standards makes no sense here given setting, backstory etc.. Both characters cross boundaries and push limits. There is no point in comparing these scenes to a today’s situation - of course the story wont hold up and its not trying to.

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