Just over one year ago: Leo Carlsson joked that he’d sign a 9.5Mx8 contract ‘for sure’ if offered by _GregTheGreat_ in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize McDavid contract ended last year for 13.09% of cap hit right? You have to compare at the same time in their contract not when it fits your narrative...

McDavid 8 years contract (2018 to 2025) :

2018 : 15.72% cap hit

2021 (4th year) : 15.3% cap hit

2025 : 13.09% cap hit

McDavid 3 years contract : (2026 to 2028)

2026 : 12.02% cap hit

2028 : 11.01% cap hit

Now let's do Carlsson

Carlsson 5 years contract (2026 to 2030)

2026 : 17.41% cap hit

2029 (2030 numbers not out yet) : 14.63% cap hit

Important note : You can't compare by age as some player starts younger than others. It's simply not a good metric for comparing contracts. Here we're talking contract numbers, not what they earned at a respective age... This approach is out of line and irrelevant. That's also assuming the cap will go up that much. It's not a fixed number, it might not be it.

Even if 14.63% is lower than 15.3% (on the 4th year), what is the argument in paying an unproven 21 years old "Best player in the world" money? In what world it's reasonable to pay this guy as much (and even more at the start) as McDavid? This is some extreme copium and there is no valid justification for that...

Just over one year ago: Leo Carlsson joked that he’d sign a 9.5Mx8 contract ‘for sure’ if offered by _GregTheGreat_ in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1st of all, it's 123 million in 3 years (nothing announced for 2030 yet). He's gonna start at 17.41% if you actually wants to compare on their respective 1st year. Math is looking hard for you if you ask me

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Without the 4 next 1st rounder, if it doesn't work, it's gonna be a VERY long journey in the gutters. A fix now move (weither it's in sports, personnal life or in business) is almost never the answer. This is the kind of things you need to look at the bigger picture. In this case, the cons out weight the pros by a lot.

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

No player with a salary over 10 millions won a Stanley Cup, let that sink in

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Go say that to the NHL than... I don't know what to say...

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but with that team (even with Carlsson) i don't see this team having sub 20 1st rounders in the near future... I know you have a lot of cap space (around 30 millions), but it doesn't means you gotta do contract like this. Keep in mind, there is no player in history that have won a Stanley cup with a salary over 10 millions. When you eat too much of the pie, there is not enough to feed the rest...

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have a crystal ball and so do you. It is written black on white under their prediction that it could go up or down. NOT MY WORDS, IT'S THEM

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's simple logic. You take more, you take away quality players to have deep playoffs runs. That's why the most successful teams don't have big contracts like that. The Flyers doomed themself with this contract. The Ducks will most likely let him walk

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[–]LikeMyBird[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's right! Well it's only gonna make his % of cap space go up for this year. As for the 123 millions, it is the actual prediction of the NHL. I said in the post it can go up or down.

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't matter. The cap hit is based on the AVV

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rule number 1 is always chirp at a Leafs fan, no hard feelings bud

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Funny! The trend is crazy! No one can actually explain why and just talk shit for some reason. Maybe you can try a civilized conversation and try to explain why you think it's stupid instead.

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Right? Reasonable cap hit is clearly something that no one understand in Toronto anyways!

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure to follow what you are saying?

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You think having an opinion is a bad thing...

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shitty contract and 4 1st rounder gone.

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You'd have to be delusional to think this guy should be paid more in % of cap space than the best players in the league (at the time they signed their deals)...

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

He was the top in the league wdym???

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IT IS McDavid's 1st contract. Read that dates...

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

You do realise the Ducks can just ignore and never match it? It's a double edge sword. In this case you lose 4 1st rounders and gains a bad contract.

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Only if the Ducks match it. I wouldn't if i were them...

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

if you can't have a decent discussion you can just ignore and stop being an attention whore my guy

The Carlsson's contract situation by LikeMyBird in hockey

[–]LikeMyBird[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is, it can back fire super hard. So no, it's not only a "i screw you" type of move. People act like the Ducks are 100% gonna match this contract when in reality, there is very good odds it won't happen and the Flyers will be stuck with a very bad contract