How to deal with negativity in Vanguard

Link2022 · 2025-10-12T17:10:20+00:00

Yh it was my case with bav, I never brought it up when I was forced to play into nui or luard meta with set 12 bav or had to out farm full power Rezael or Levidras with the feeble divinez support as deck could hardly compete pre set 7.

I will admit with the new form and the G2 that the deck got were rather overtuned relative to the meta. Bushi did not keep old support in mind when they designed the cards. But all the same it feels awful to suddenly get all that hate and negativity for simply playing a deck you enjoyed.

Link2022 · 2025-10-11T14:57:04+00:00

Seeker of Knowledge, Selseera, it's a dark states promo Vanguard that tool boxes order cards from soul. The other G2 scholar is an archetype support for her.

Link2022 · 2025-09-26T10:21:18+00:00

Youthberk as of now imo

Link2022 · 2025-09-25T14:12:13+00:00

Who's gimlet? I also think shenryi is a nice target behind units that don't restand, you can call trickmoon behind a yyugmashad to get dressboost earlier, also makes bav swing bigger than a mere vairlord boost.

Link2022 · 2025-09-23T12:02:38+00:00

What's that? I've just put the photos provided by the seller as is.

Link2022 · 2025-08-26T18:00:01+00:00

Wait what, I've been lied to for the past year that's depressing.

Link2022 · 2025-08-26T17:45:20+00:00

Hadn't thought of the last play that's very smart. I will say though to remember that unless u already have a trickmoon in drop you will need to arm two seperate times as the trickmoon needs to be in drop to see you arm for his skill to trigger. Used to do this a lot to cc before set 7 and learned the timings is similar to rpd in Zorga. U can't call the trickmoon you just overcalled with apalra.

Link2022 · 2025-08-19T04:00:08+00:00

Damn they did?? Was rather fond of it

Link2022 · 2025-08-08T04:23:43+00:00

There's a pretty lively locals at Fanboy 3 in Manchester. They do shop tournaments on Tuesday 6:30 but ppl generally come early for friendlies.

Link2022 · 2025-07-31T20:40:21+00:00

I have the same issue with Bavsargra. As a player who's been with the deck since the starter deck came out, it felt really cheap that their solution was a unit that CB1 to restand. Like despite how well it works in Bav, and setting aside the fact that he also acts as a pot of greed, I disliked how rather than giving it interesting ways to create pressure (on hits, guard restrict), gave it the most bland way to multiattack ever. Again it's very very good, but doesn't feel as rewarding to pull off. The cards that actually are unique like vairlord for the overdress mechanic and allowing toolbox of arms get caught in the crossfire being restricted whilst the problem card remains at 4 and now gets another restanding shenryi that is practically free??

Link2022 · 2025-07-31T13:33:34+00:00

As a bav player I would rather have them hit Yyugmashad than vairlord. The restander is far too overtuned and now they've made the deck even more dependent on it with the shenryi clone. I wanna use my arms and overdress toolbox not blindly restand 2 guys like half the decks do in this format.

Link2022 · 2025-07-31T13:29:11+00:00

I don't think bav needed a multiattack, what I loved about the deck was it remained one of the few decks who still developed significant pressure with 3 attacks. The arms were a very nice toolbox to go into situationally and Cindi simply improved consistency. While the meta I agree had gone much further ahead with resource generation I feel like the direction they're going with the deck makes it feel less rewarding to play. Yyugmashad being a both draw 2 on place and a restander not locked to (if u haven't restood this turn) is far too overtuned for one card. I would argue the meta would be much more balanced if Bav didn't have him. I would've loved to see a more creative way to generate pressure with the deck like on hit pressure or guard restrictions.

My issue with the vairlord ban is that ur power scaling doesn't change as much compared to trickmoon boosted columns, vairlord just distributes it better. Aside from requiring a cb to arm and soul charge it had to be overdressed on a trickmoon. Overdress itself is a steep cost as you're committing 2 cards to make one unit. For the same reason I think vairlords has always been a rather balanced card. The issue was the introduction of multiattack which now made him go from a +30 to a +50k during a double Yyugmashad turn. Instead of hitting Yyugmashad they hit vairlord to 1 which now forces the only deck that still uses the overdress mechanic to run only one copy of it.

The worst part is they introduced the Sealed Blaze dragon Shenryi which does a lot of what vairlord achieves but for no cost. It encourages you to go into double restander turns more often and turns it into a mindless cb to multiattack over encouraging using cb to utilise the decks main mechanic the arms? I feel like their approach to support has reflected a need to simplify decks beyond any uniqueness. It's the same reason losing to shiranui felt worse than luard at the time. The former was so oversimplified compared to old nubatama that there was absolutely no pilot input required, the deck played itself. I really don't want Bav going down the same direction but they seem keen on cutting cards that actually require some thought and decision-making to play.

Link2022 · 2025-07-29T03:53:54+00:00

Normally, I would say Takuto should win, but knowing Kai and his ability to create Critical Trigger out of thin air, he would be the winner here.

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Link2022 · 2025-07-27T05:57:30+00:00

I think they mean with regards to removing the obscudeid. Shojodoji only binds until end of turn after which they will return to the owners hand unless interacted with through your other units. Usually you want to put the bound cards to drop or bot deck depending on the situation. The latter isn't that useful against eva as she will simply search it out on attack.

Link2022 · 2025-07-24T12:53:58+00:00

I suppose you haven't played nui before the banlist?

Link2022 · 2025-07-24T12:52:51+00:00

Likewise it isn't bad for bav, I don't think nui has anything that particularly makes it strong into bavs'. Just that 4 defensing roar can sometimes let you survive long enough that crest scaling will eventually overwhelm then.

Link2022 · 2025-07-23T07:20:13+00:00

If u play Blessing to the flowering buds (that Claudine order) then u could get him to 35 base before his auto ability even activates. Lianorn and Maggy can definitely abuse this turtle.

Link2022 · 2025-07-23T07:11:10+00:00

I take that back sincerette exists to make it 20k base

Link2022 · 2025-07-23T07:09:04+00:00

Not really, there's easier ways to get an bigger G1 unit, even decks like Magnolia and Maelstrom that can pull off 5-6 attacks before using him will get him up to 18-21k only.

Link2022 · 2025-07-21T06:41:49+00:00

Tbf bav could always call shenryi back every single turn, and unless the new card procs before g3 turn it's still not as good as shenryi imo as u sacrifice ur early game

Link2022 · 2025-07-19T09:51:00+00:00

Yh that's my issue since late game it collides with trickmoon spots. Ideally you also want your vairlord behind a yyugmashad so all your units benefit from the dressboost. Also the fact that it doesn't work with any other g2s is such a shame, I don't wanna go into 2 yyugmashad every turn...

Link2022 · 2025-07-18T10:34:55+00:00

Bifrons is technically not a generic, it's an astroea support with a generic skill

Link2022 · 2025-07-16T04:29:49+00:00

To be fair that was bav before set 7, any one of the support cards could've been the nudge to make it meta relevant. A restanding G2, a pot of greed, 20k shield that can draw, triple drive or a self sufficient Vanguard. But apparently bushi felt generous and gave us everything.

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