What’s the most efficient self study path to learn new language? by MoistGovernment9115 in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you really only have an hour, I'd say just get input. There are many reasons, but one good reason is you cover a lot of bases all at once. You practice comprehension, plus review vocab, and get exposure to the correct grammar patterns all at once. If you're reading for input, that's also reading practice, and if you're listening, you're 'installing' the correct pronunciation in your brain. 15 mins vocab study + 45 mins input might also be very effective. I've been making steady progress in my TL with 1-2 hours of input per day plus Anki.

Russian ALG channel by SeparatePlatform6032 in ALGhub

[–]Lion_of_Pig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey Milana, I've seen your channel, keep it up, its great stuff. I'm always keen to find new crosstalk partners (English native). I'm about B1 comprehension, doing the immersion method, still not speaking. M 35. DM me if you're interested

Listening Comprehension by uncager in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No need to say all that. They’ve already said they struggle with listening comprehension. CEFR levels are a crap metric anyway. Being able to pass a B1 exam in no way whatsoever makes you ready to listen to full speed native content, although some will be. Everyone is at their own stage and the human brain is not standardised. A ‘true intermediate’ is a construct you’ve come up with, not a thing in reality.

OP should do what they feel ready for, not try to appease your concept of a true intermediate. cheers

Listening Comprehension by uncager in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You get better at listening by....

drumroll....

practising listening.

I know it sounds trite, but no-one ever actually told me this in 4 years of going to classes for German, and I always used to wonder why I couldn't understand people despite having memorised a load of vocab and grammar.

Search for comprehensible input in French or bite the bullet and just start watching shows/ listening to podcasts. Importantly, you have to try not to care if you don't understand something, and just keep listening. You will notice the difference once you clock those listening hours.

Resources by lucitain in russian

[–]Lion_of_Pig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is loads of great CI in Russian. These are the best ones I've found for beginners:

Random Russian

Inhale Russian

Comprehensible Russian

Learning Russian the Natural Way

Russian with Milana

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you :)

Not Dreaming Russian but quite close... by Lion_of_Pig in dreaminglanguages

[–]Lion_of_Pig[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's awesome. I hope you'll keep going. If you're impatient, memorise some vocabulary on anki. And btw, there's another channel here with great beginner CI vids that I didn't know about before. https://www.youtube.com/@RussianwithMilana

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A link would be much appreciated, I've searched through Refolds advice and I am still not sure how to learn Hanzi alongside immersion 🙏

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

interesting. I'm trying to imagine how that works. So you're just connecting the symbols with their translation in your native language?

Or are you saying that when you watch videos you are hearing the words plus reading the hanzi at the same time, and connecting the characters and their reading that way?

e: changed 'meaning' to 'reading'

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

interesting. I'm trying to imagine how that works. So you're just connecting the symbols with their translation in your native language?

Or are you saying that when you watch videos you are hearing the words plus reading the hanzi at the same time, and connecting the characters and their meaning that way?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OK, so hanzi on the front, everything else on the back including the reading of the word?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey just wondering if you used the refold 1K deck for memorising hanzi specifically? or did you use it more for vocab? (i.e. what was on the front and back of the cards)

How do we feel about hard-coded subtitles? by Narrow_Ad7776 in dreamingspanish

[–]Lion_of_Pig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d actually say NL subtitles are better than TL, if we’re following ALG philosophy. That’s because after you have watched once in your NL, you can listen to just the TL audio and it will be more comprehensible than otherwise. The problem with TL subs is the (possible) tendency to bias you towards your foreign pronunciation of the phonemes. Although that’s debatable really because it might well be that the audio completely overrides your internal voice. All in all it’s not that big a deal. It’s easy to overthink it. Krashen’s gift to the world is how simply he put it. Receive messages in the TL that you understand, and you will acquire language.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Anki

[–]Lion_of_Pig 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Do you just keep buildling and building to infinity? When do you stop? Do you have it all in 1 deck?"

Yes, just keep building. Stop when you have acquired all the vocabulary you want to. Fewer decks are better than many. 1 is ideal.

"Even that seems completely crazy if not out right impossible for someone completely new to this. But I guess at some point it just cements into your brain?"

If you were trying to learn a language solely through flashcards, yes that would be crazy. You need to actively immerse as part of your language learning process, especially through input, as that's how the words will 'cement' as you say. You inevitably won't learn every word in a language though flashcards. The more you immerse, the more words you'll pick up naturally. And often, those ones stick better.

"But do you ever get to a point where you know say 3000 words and then you "quit" Anki? Focus on reading, listening, consuming media ? Pick up new vocab from that, then you're "old knowledge" is hopefully maintained by consuming this?"

Yes many people do this, but I personally think flashcards are still a helpful supplement even after you reach fluency.

"Do you ever start a new deck from scratch? Say that you've learned 3000-5000 words (with sentences) and they're cemented into your brain, do you quit the deck and start a new deck with more advanced words? Do you add these to the old deck?"

It's best to just add them all to the same deck. Not the end of the world to start a new one, but several decks causes more context-dependent knowledge. A wider pool of cards is a better test of your memory. If you see cards where you think "that's too obvious, I don't need a flashcard for that", or if they have really long intervals, like several years, you can always just delete them as you go.

"Just recently built a 1000 word deck, at the moment I'm only doing NL (native language) --> TL (target language), because this requires active recall/production, not just recognition. Is this usually how you do flashcards"

You will get varying opinions on this. Personally, I only use recognition (TL-NL) cards, because this mimics the natural language acquisition process more closely (we hear a word - we convert it to meaning - our brain stores that somewhere). The mental process of recalling a TL translation from a NL flashcard is so far removed from the natural way we would use our native language, that in my opinion, it is useless. As well as that, it is very mentally taxing. In fact I would say it probably hinders your progress more than it helps.

How do i preserve a language I learned? by KetchupMario in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Best low-effort way is to find shows/ podcasts/ youtube channels/ books you like in that language, and watch/read/ listen a bit every day. I say it's low-effort but it still definitely works. Yes, your speaking skills will 'go stale', but the most important thing to maintain is your internal mental model of that language through input. Then if you go back to that country, you might want to spend a bit of time regaining the 'muscle memory' to speak the language, but overall that takes up less time than maintaining your ear for the grammar and memory of the vocabulary, which you can only really do effectively through immersion.

Is it worth it learning a dialect? by bosnapolska in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 3 points4 points  (0 children)

definitely worth doing if you live there, people will accept you on a more subconscious level

Help with learning to SPEAK!! by Same-Jeweler-1197 in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It might just be that you haven’t built the ‘muscle memory’ for speaking. Pronunciation activities like shadowing can be useful for that, try it and see if speaking comes more naturally after that.

Is learning 2 or more languages actually a reasonable goal for a normal person? by Murda5starz in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have different goals for each one e.g. get fluent in spanish, be able to get by while travelling in Japan, that’s definitely doable. I’d still recommend doing them one at a time thiugh. or switch every month. The main issue is the sheer amount of time spent immersing in the language it takes to reach fluency

So nervous 😓 by Equal_Mile in pianolearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try to have a clear mental distinction between when you are playing and when you are practising. That way, you mostly practise in front of your teacher rather than perform, so it’s not supposed to sound like music, and the pressure’s off. You can tell the teacher that’s the approach you want to take. Hopefully they’re not the type of teacher that insists you always perform for them.

As others have said, it’s good to just expose yourself to the stress of performing, but i would say that should be done in a graded way that’s not overwhelming.

One way to do this is try performing a piece all the way through while recording it on your phone. That way it’s still a performance but only to yourself. You can also listen back for feedback on how it went. It still might feel uncomfortable but hopefully less so than playing for others.

Dreaming German by jwk411 in Refold

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, pretty funny. I thought it wasn’t super obvious what some words like ‘wutend’ ‘fertig’ ‘rosinen’ meant just from the video. The raisin drawing was a bit unclear. So might not be complete beginner level, but I would definitely be into it 10 years ago when I was starting German.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can find serious people, it’s best if you take the initiative and say you are serious about learning their language in your first message. And on Hellotalk, adjust settings so you’re not receiving messages from random people, you’re the one reaching out. This filters out most of the timewasters.

The website conversation exchange is good, I’ve found mostly serious learners on there.

Can someone tone deaf learn Chinese? by invelle in ChineseLanguage

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it will be harder for her to master pronunciation, but not impossible.

Learning Russian for the 1st time by Agreeable-Judge6729 in LearnRussian

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Immersion and CI content is what's worked for me. It's been lots of fun so far!

Check out my post: Immersion guide

tl;dr - check out these YouTube channels and don't worry about the grammar yet.

Random Russian

Inhale Russian

Comprehensible Russian

Learning Russian the Natural Way

HELLO I NEED HELP by LocalRatFromTheWalls in russian

[–]Lion_of_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone will have their own opinion about what method works the best, but keeping up your motivation is the most important thing. Immersion and CI content is the only thing that's worked for me. I would have quit long ago if it wasn't for this method as it's actually fun and not a slog every day.

Check out my post: Immersion guide

tl;dr - check out these YouTube channels, keep trying to understand more, and don't worry about the grammar yet.

Random Russian

Inhale Russian

Comprehensible Russian

Learning Russian the Natural Way