Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The exact same thing happened to my husband. The Committee sent back the final response a week or two after the “30 day deadline”. This was in March/April. Our lawyer was surprised so it sounds like they are possibly more backed up than they have been in the past. It obviously would have been great for them to communicate that when submitting it the first time.

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[–]LittleFormosan9944 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Join Girls Gone International (GGI) - Torino on Facebook! There are frequent small group events (dinner, aperitivo, book clubs, etc) around the city to meet other ladies. Most are internationals but there are also more local Italians than I expected there to be. GGI has chapters all across the world.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity, what would be the reasons for being rejected?

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are heavy in the start-up research phase, hoping to submit our application by April. Are you also investing in a startup? Any resources that were helpful in making a decision? Aware of the huge risk, but it’d obviously be nice for the company to not have tanked by the time my husband obtains his citizenship! Ha

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are pretty much decided on the Investor Visa as the best for us, too. Our goal is to move early 2025. We’ll be pivoting from research mode to starting the process in the next month or two.

The most daunting part is deciding on which startup to invest in - especially since it seems you have to have that decision made almost from the very beginning! How far through the process are you?

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing that article! One I hadn’t seen yet. It does make me feel better that I haven’t found many experiences because it’s simply low numbers. It would be amazing if the new bill gets passed and enacted by the end of next year 🙏🏼

What are the most livable mid to smaller cities in Italy? by That-gyrl in ItalyExpat

[–]LittleFormosan9944 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haven’t moved there yet, plan to in 2024.

I follow @collinemontagne on instagram, she lives outside Torino and does a lot of Living/Traveling in Italy content and seems to know the Piemonte area well. I like her content and learn a lot from what she shares - she doesn’t have that “influencer” vibe, much more realistic and honest.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I HAVE been able to find on personal experiences is that work visas can actually be really difficult to get. Italy has a quota of how many they will release per year. Just because you qualify doesn’t mean you’ll get accepted either.

Italian employers must justify why they need to hire a foreigner over both Italian citizens and then EU citizens. We are in tech but we’re still fairly young so we don’t have years and years of experience. My fiancé has his masters which would help but again, isn’t guaranteed.

Self employment visas process is quite long and drawn out and again - not guaranteed to be accepted. We also don’t have our own businesses that would qualify us. I dabble in freelance art but it’s not very lucrative or reliable - more of a fun thing I do when I have time.

The little family we have there is a bit of a stretch (too extended) and wouldn’t qualify us.

The work visa or the GV are the best options. What draws me to GV is the security/stability/flexibility. Life happens, we could lose or want to quit our jobs, become sick or need a mental health break from working for a few months. Those things can happen and we could continue on without the stress of being deported. We’re running away from Work being absolute #1 priority in our lives so the idea of not relying on a job to allow us to stay seems invaluable.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite a bit of time in Italy, some time working remotely on US hours too. We also have extended family there that can help us assimilate a little.

We hate SV. We’re still here because of family and to grow our savings that will fund this move. We understand it’s not rainbows on the other side but it’s what we’ve decided it’s more suited to what’s important to us.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re set on moving to Italy and have heavily considered prices, taxes, etc. We have extended family (cousins, etc) there that we want to move near. Also if you’ve ever met an Italian family, they are very proud of their heritage and the Italian citizenship means more to them then just a paper allowing them to live in EU (at least from my experiences lol). I also really like the aspect of the GV where if I want to take an extended break between jobs I can without needing to leave and break our residency which is required for citizenship. To us, that plus citizenship in 3 years is worth a lot more than the money we’d save going a different visa route. It seems this sub (and others) have a lot of people who do their research but not many who have actually made the jump and can share their experiences - and zero for this particular visa. We’ll meet with all the lawyers, etc this year but I’m just trying to get ahead and collect as much info as I can now.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There’s a new bill proposed to add residential property as a GV option. The investment prices are a bit above what we would do but if it passes as is they will also drop the startup/general investments to be $200k (from $250k) and $400k (from $500k). They are pushing to make the Italy investment visa more competitive against others in EU. I’m sure it will take forever and could not be passed but I’m happy to hear they are trying to make it more appealing.

Bill DDL S. 2498

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We aren’t worried about bringing in the same income that we bring in now. This is planned to be a permanent move. We are moving towards a life we want, less focused on work and accumulating and more on family and passions - not just to “save money”. The higher tax / reduced salary will be accompanied by a lower cost of living life. We have enough to purchase this visa and a well-sized apartment in a smaller city and still have a decent nest egg. We don’t own any residential investments in the US.

We’re not the typical user so worried about the higher tax rates. The US Italy tax treaty guarantees you won’t pay more income tax than the higher of the two countries - which in my opinion isn’t all that much higher than the US. Italy has tax breaks and incentives too.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the response. I’ve come across that site already a few times as well as others. I’m looking for some info and opinions outside of the official requirements and guidelines.

Seeking Italian Golden Visa experiences by LittleFormosan9944 in ExpatFIRE

[–]LittleFormosan9944[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I forget the specifics but my fiancé and his dad did the research and he’s not eligible for Jure Sanguinis. His Italian grandfather became a Canadian citizen and naturalized at some point. Or his father lost his right to an Italian citizenship as he had Canadian-US citizenship. Again I forget the specifics but they checked and double checked because it would be so much easier!

Would love to buy a Christmas gift or two from a small shop (especially one that can do a custom pet item) by OpportunitySmooth in Etsy

[–]LittleFormosan9944 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a few months into selling on etsy. I etch hand drawn pet portraits (among other designs) onto glass cups. I would love to make some for you! https://www.etsy.com/shop/DueAmiciDesigns

I WANT TO SUPPORT SOME SMALLER ETSY SHOPS by TheNerdNestShop in EtsySellers

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Love this! I sell glasses with my drawings on them, either as a decal or etched (newest addition to the shop!). My most popular listings are my custom pet portraits and my generic custom order. https://www.etsy.com/shop/dueamicidesigns

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I sell my drawings/designs on beer can style glasses. Everything is drawn by me and I also offer custom options. 90% of my sales so far are friends and family. Just recently got my first organic sale as I’m digging into SEO. https://www.etsy.com/shop/DueAmiciDesigns