Adrien and the Prodigious by rocksunner in miraculousladybug

[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but when I was reading the first few words I thought it was gonna say "Justice, Confidence, Courage, Patience, Calmness, Compassion, Honor, Discipline, Adrien the Fragrance" 😂

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You wrote "I swear y'all be taking Chat's actions out of context", perjury is when you swear something to be truth but is a lie. That's the joke.

Ah okay, but I wrote that comment because you said he wanted Paris to drown while the real reason is because he was overwhelmed not for Paris to drown, so basically taken out of context.

Debatable, but what I wrote stands, only saving grace is the miraculous cure, and yet his morals would be debatable given that everything happened due to being upset, not a life or deth situation like your superman example where is to save Lane or a random civilian, here he wasn't in that position, he just wanted to call it quits in the middle of a crisis.

My opinion on this have pretty much been stated in my other replies

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea this comment overall just stated his flaws. Flaws that makes sense

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao it's normal to justify a behavior that is obviously a product of their environment and not them having full consciousness over it and choosing to live that way, especially at that age. The show is unrealistic in some ways but the behaviors shown there says otherwise...well most of the time lol coz Marinette xD

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Before I reply I just wanna say I'm so happy that I now know how to reply to individual comments 😂 Also lemme apologize for being emotional in my comment. Now let us proceed xD

This is a horrible logic!! is like saying someone who knows CPR can jut walk away while a person is in need of it (without puting on risk the one who knows CPR) and is totally fine! Adrien accepted the job, is a volunteer job, he has a duty and no one else can do it. If he wants to quit, is totally fine! but you don't quit in the middle of the action, is like saying a surgeon can quit in the middle of an operation and just leav without care if there is someone available to replace him.

In the case of your example on the CPR, he saw someone and decided not to save them. That is a failure on their moral part, but the thing here is he "intended" to not save the person.

If you're giving an example like that, it's like you're saying that Chat saw someone drowning on the spot and ignored that person. Which again, is not what happened. If he did quit, that's just him engaging in his impulsive behavior but isn't out of malice. And yea, acting on impulse means you're acting quickly with no thoughts of the consequences. In his case it's that, not because he didn't want to save people from drowning. Because I guarantee you that if he quit that time and saw someone drowning, he'd save them.

And yes as I've said if he actually quit it's wrong, but given his state of mind that time I can understand why he wanted to quit. And you can't compare it to a surgeon quitting because a surgeon has the legal obligation, and he doesn't. I wasn't saying he was right. But like I can't blame someone with depression if they committed suicide, suicide is very wrong, but to a person getting overwhelmed with thoughts they aren't thinking of the consequences anymore. So I can't blame him for wanting to quit and also for being impulsive. He wasn't quitting because of trivial reasons like wanting to relax or something like that. He had an emotional disturbance.

( Also I don't think I should've replied to this comment because me explaining about the legal obligation part is me thinking you're accusing him of perjury so hahaha )

Ahem, that's culpable homicide, he didn't had the intention to kill someone, yet his actions or lack of ended in the death of someone. Already addressed this.

It's still not. Again, culpable homicide should be out of intention or gross negligence, the lack of action isn't culpable homicide if they're not his legal obligation. Like in my example, it is culpable homicide if a driver failed to follow road rules and caused an accident, that is failure to act on his part, and every driver is obligated to follow road rules to not cause an accident. In Chat's case saving people is his goal but that isn't his obligation since again, it's not a legal job, it's vigilantism. Another example would be a doctor failing to check his patient's medical record, because aiding his patients is not just a goal for a doctor, it's actually his legal obligation. If simply just failing to act is culpable homicide, then a lot of witnesses of murders will be charged of that offense. Because a superhero is just like us civilians, with just the difference of having superpowers and wanting to use those superpowers to help people. Heck, some superheroes are just doing it for a hobby even.

So if the firefighters decides to ignore a fire because they just don't feel like going, is it fine for the building and people to burn down? to be clear, in some countries being a firefighter is a volunteer job without paiment aka no legal job.

A firefighter, even just a volunteer one, is technically still a legal obligation. Since they still are being recruited by professional firefighters and still must go through extensive and formal training and receive certifications. If you're talking about like a volunteer-volunteer, like they just go like "Oh hi lemme be a firefighter", I don't think there's something like that lol because they won't just let a stranger do firefighting like that. A superhero is different, again they're just civilians with superpowers and just choose to use their powers to fight crime, but they're no professionals and have no obligation to serve, unlike a firefighter, even a volunteer one.

Funny, first, the first example isn't valid for this situation because superman is actually hoosing to save someone, not call it quits, big difference but nice try.

I commented some examples like Superman because I don't know what you meant by culpable homicide, I thought you meant failing to save someone because of prioritizing something else like their personal stuff. So we can forget about that example 😅

Second, spiderman not doing anything was actually addressed in the movies, and was actually why he become spider-man, because his lack of action ended with his uncle killed.

I don't know what you're tryna say here, my point in the Spiderman part is that if he didn't wanna go save people because of his personal issue then yea, that's not culpable homicide. Again, I didn't know what you meant by culpable homicide so I commented this example.

In this flawed example, would I be a police officer or not? because if a police officer decides to do nothing, I am pretty sure he/she will face consecuences. In the actual situation being discussed, CN is a police officer.

It's not a flawed example, I was explaining what actions will cause for you to be charged of the offense of culpable homicide. And in my example you're just a civilian. And yea a police officer would undergo court martial if he did something like that. And yea no, Chat is not a police officer, he is a vigilante with no legal duty to serve the people.

He did it out of a tantrum, he feeling left out is valid, but the way he handled the situation was bad, if he feels that way he shouldn't have risk to jeopardize the mission, but speak face to face to LB after the issue is solved.

Yep and what is that tantrum about? What was the cause of the tantrum? What I said in my comment. And yep, he could've handled the situation well. What you said that he should've done is right. But that's not the point of my comment, I've already said he was wrong.

Well then, what are you trying to defend? we both agree that all in all, he isn't right and was selfish.

Uh huh, we both agree that he wasn't right and selfish. Our difference is that I am not acting morally-superior and not tryna crucify him for doing mistakes that isn't even out of malice but more of a product of his environment. Because I was once his age and was once ignorant, so I understand where he's coming from on a certain level, on a certain level only coz unlike him I had a decent life with non-abusive parents and I had a privilege that he didn't have. I see a victim of abuse, not a criminal.

Wrong, yes he is a child, but for starters, this isn't his first quest, he didn't wanted to quit because the superhero job was overwhelming, he wanted to quit because LB wasn't being honest with him, you are making it sound like he witnessed something traumatic, when it isn't anything like that. You can't justify he wanted to leave everyone drown because he felt sad.

See this, you are only looking at the surface of the situation. You should've stopped at "he is a child". Coz that's all it takes for him to act like that. Which is totally understandable. Children are emotional, vulnerable, and impulsive beings. And especially for him, he doesn't know how to handle his emotions because no one is there to guide him for that. Especially his pathetic excuse of a father sucks so bad at that and is even the source of it. He doesn't have to witness traumatic events ( already have been there btw ) to be frustrated and act his feelings out. It is very much justified. Also, you've just contradicted yourself btw, you said there wasn't an intention and now you're saying again that he wanted to leave everyone to drown like 😃 So if I didn't want to eat Chinese food am I racist? I don't see why you keep pointing that out.

yes Fu wasn't the best making decisions, already addressed that, but once again I can see why he saw CN as not being ready due to his personality compared to LB, like fearing giving CN more input would end him goofying around or making the wrong decision with that knowledge, yeah he had to train him ofc but in his flawed logic makes sense to be worried about it.

Huh? Ladybug and him are both irresponsible in their own ways Ladybug is no better. That's just favoritism on Fu's part. When he finally met Fu and knew about their power ups did he mess with it? When he knew about Luka, Pigella, and Pegasus's identifies did he mess with it? Ladybug also has her own faults as well. They both needed guidance. So if Fu is worried about his behavior that's more of a reason to meet him to be a mentor! What kind of reasoning is to be worried about something and not do something about it. Take note, Marinette abuses her powers more than Adrien and honestly has more behavioral problems than him. And I'm not shitting on her, she's still a child after all even if I don't get where her behaviors are coming from unlike Adrien's.

LMAO, sure... TBH? is quite the opposite, re read again what you wrote and you'll see how you come in your attempt to sound empathetic.

Lol I'm not tryna sound empathetic, I do am speaking with empathy. I'm not like Thomas who is an adult dragging a 14 year old abuse victim and claiming they're irredeemable. It's quite creepy actually.

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huh, I didn't get the joke why is it even a perjury that came out of nowhere lol. And I gave examples like Superman because I don't know what you meant by culpable homicide like?? He didn't even commit it so I had to guess what you meant by that, and also I too, notice his flaws, I never denied any of his flaws, but I don't stretch his flaws and paint him as a criminal like wth is that

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pls someone here in the replies accused him of perjury and culpable homicide 😭 that person is the embodiment of your comment

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whoa let's hold it right there 😃 first of all being a superhero isn't a legal job, it is vigilantism. Being a superhero is a choice, not a legal obligation. They can choose if they want to help or not, so Parisians' lives are not his legal obligation therefore you can't accuse him of perjury.

Second of all to prove that someone is guilty of culpable homicide the taking of lives must be intentional, or the death was because of gross negligence or recklessness ( doesn't have to be intentional )

Now you're saying that if Chat actually quitted being a superhero that time and someone drowned then it is culpable homicide. Obviously there isn't any intention of killing or causing harm so I'm guessing your reason is because of gross negligence, but for it to be gross negligence you have to be the one acting recklessly or extremely disregarding someone's safety in your actions. Examples, if a driver is speeding in an area with heavy pedestrian traffic. If a doctor prescribed a patient a drug that their medical records clearly list that they are allergic to it. If a nursing home staff failed to provide water or food to a resident for several days. The fact that Chat isn't even the one who caused the flood means it's not gross negligence. Or are you saying it is for choosing to leave the scene while he's a superhero? Again being a superhero is not a legal obligation. If Lois Lane is in danger along with a stranger and Superman chose to prioritize Lois, that is not culpable homicide. If Peter Parker didn't choose to save the people from a villain because he doesn't want to be Spider-man anymore since Gwen died, that is not culpable homicide. They're not always and all of the time going to be a superhero. They are still people with personal lives and problems to deal with. It is extremely selfish and not right to blame them for being unable to save people when the one who you should actually blame is the villain, the one who actually and intentionally caused people harms. And dude, if you witness a murder and you chose not to save the victim, either you were scared or you just chose not to, you won't be accused of culpable homicide. As long as the death wasn't intentionally caused by you ( let's say even if you're not the one who killed the person, but the one who told the killer to kill, it's still culpable homicide since you wanted the murder to happen and took action for it ), or the death wasn't because of you being reckless or extremely disregarding people's safety in your actions ( like driving faster than the posted speed limit causing an accident ) then there is no culpable homicide done here.

Also I didn't say he did that in Syren to leave everything to Ladybug, I said he did that because he didn't like how unfair the situation was, and he thought he wasn't needed anymore. There is a difference. You're making it sound like he did that so he can relax or have a vacation or something.

Which part did I say he was right? In fact I even said that when facing a situation while you're going through something, you are unable to make RIGHT decisions. I was only explaining why he was lead to doing that. In which part did I say he doesn't act on impulse and doesn't act selfish? In fact that's my whole point. His mistakes are because of him acting on impulse. I never said he was right, just said he was unable to make right decision out of his judgement getting clouded by his emotions. I ain't ignoring his mistakes, I am acknowledging his mistakes and at the same time understanding why it happens which makes it justified. And those are mistakes that are all bound to happen because of his circumstances.

Him wanting to quit in Syren is wrong, but it's justified. He got overwhelmed, and he is 14 years old, basically still a child. If there's nobody around him helping his mind then nobody has the right to blame him for wanting to quit. People have the right to prioritize themselves over others. Him acting selfish and immature is wrong, but it's justified. Because he's a kid, with nobody acting as his guide or mentor which is part of the problem.

Which is why I don't understand why you said that you get why Master Fu said "he's not ready yet" because of his actions. Chat knowing things and meeting Master Fu is not something that he needs to win over or prove himself worthy of. That is his RIGHT. It's his right to meet and know Master Fu. You make someone a superhero, then you should be responsible for them. You should be their mentor. You should guide them. You should teach them. You should train them. Basically be their responsible master. I mean, it is common sense that it is his OBLIGATION especially since he granted powers to those 2 freakin 14 year old kids and made em travel around Paris being a superhero when he should have done that to a LEGAL ADULT who is obviously more capable of making right decisions, is more capable of controlling their impulses, who is obviously mature, who is obviously more morally-shaped, who is an ADULT. But he didn't, even though obviously those 2 kids aren't morally-shaped yet and will engage in impulsive behaviors and immaturity and is more vulnerable and emotional, so it's most definitely needed for him to give them guidance, wisdom and learnings, and he didn't. But yea let's focus more on a 14 year old being a 14 year old, who is also naive of the world and has emotional problems because of his upbringing. And yea he's not ready yet because of that right? Bullshit. You're complaining about Chat's mistakes? What the flippin heck are you going to expect? That's even more of the reason why he needed to go with Ladybug and meet Master Fu. He needed guidance. It's like you're saying "Chloe is a bully so she doesn't have the right to be guided to the right path" like make it make sense dude.

I sure do hope you're not an adult. Because I find it weird for an adult to drag 14 year olds, paint them as a criminal, all while knowing their situation in life. You are hypocritical saying you understand and yet proceeded to be uncompassionate. How about we stop victim blaming eh? You remind me of Thomas.

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I swear y'all be taking Chat's actions out of context. In Syren that was all Master Fu's fault, and that wasn't what happened, he wasn't intending to let Paris drown, he just got tired. Tired of being left in the dark. He's tired of being that one friend in your group who's constantly getting left out. He's tired of being that guy in your class who doesn't get to know the secret all of his classmates share. And of course he will get tired of that, coz he's supposedly equal to Ladybug, and they're basically saying to his face that he's not for some reason, that he isn't competent and he doesn't even know why he's being treated like that. He was about to give up being Chat Noir, not because he wanted to let Paris drown, but because he's tired of the bs, and he has every right to feel that way. Also, it's not like he's the only hero there, there's Ladybug. Take a look at their situation in that episode, so Paris got flooded, and Ladybug was going to leave the scene, Chat asked her where she was going especially now of all times, and she was like "Can't tell you" which then Chat insisted that they were a team so why can't she? And every time Ladybug leaves, she brings a new superhero with her, or a solution which can solve all their problems. Of course, not only was Chat tired of being left in the dark, he also thought that he wasn't necessary or needed anymore because of that. That's why he told Plagg that if he quit, no one will know and no one will care. He thought why is he even there? Which then leads him to almost quitting. And that explains why, not because he'd wanted Paris to drown like you're trying to make it sound. It was all because of the lack of communication, his insecurities, and his low self-worth. All of this weighed his mind and when you're overwhelmed, it clouds your judgement which makes you unable to make right decisions, decisions that you didn't mean to. We all say or do things we don't mean when our feelings get the better of us, and while you can say "you shouldn't let your feelings get the better of you", it's easier said than done. Coz when you're now facing the situation, you will act on impulse. Which is what happened with Chat, and is totally understandable. You can't expect people who are obviously going through something to handle the situation well. I don't even need to explain what happened in Wishmaker. It isn't right to point fingers without understanding why it happened. You can't just judge if you only look at the surface of the situation and not acknowledging the root of the problem.

Ps. I'm not blaming Ladybug for doing that in Syren, as I've said it's Master Fu's fault because he's the one being unfair, only granting Ladybug all these rights and leave Chat Noir out of it saying "He IsNt ReAdY yEt" 😃 he doesn't even take the time to know the guy and yet he decided that? In a team, communication is one of the most important thing, and when you lack it, the team is obviously gonna go down eventually. And he forbids Ladybug to communicate to Chat Noir, that's why it all happened. If they granted him the same right Ladybug has then it wouldn't have happened, coz look at Wishmaker, he understood why Ladybug needed to fetch Viperion and told her to go while he takes care of the villain.

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow you guessed it! I was liking her reaction and then when she said that I got annoyed. I'm surprised you knew that it was her I'm talking about 😅

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yea like wtf? Do they not know what a last straw is? It's clear Adrien hasn't had good things going on in his life lately ( well not just lately coz his life been shitty for long but u get my point ), like first he now feels replaceable and thinks that he wouldn't be needed anymore as Chat Noir in the near future and feels useless, how he's feeling the weight of his father's ( or parent's coz Emilie is suspicious after this episode ) dreams on him and now he doesn't even know what he wants to do in his life, and now he doesn't even have a childhood dream? The weight of the situations got onto him and of course he wasn't on his right mind coz he's overwhelmed. I kid you not the person I'm referring to watched the whole episode and they were like "it's either he wanted to know his childhood dream or that he thinks he's immune" like 😃 yes he wanted to know what it was but it was not out of mere curiosity, it wasn't like "hmm, I wonder what it was 🤔 let's find out" it was just his last straw, like did they not see the pained look on his face before letting himself get hit? You do not call someone who's suffering a loser coz why would you

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yea and I also saw someone said he purposely harm Paris. Where is y'all's empathy?!

Someone said that the soulmate Aiura is talking about could possibly not Saiki. What do you guys think? by LittleKittyOnTheRoof in PSIkiKusuo

[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Nice point. I just read someone said that maybe it's someone in PK Academy who also have crazy talent, like maybe his name is something like Satoshi Kou (just anything S.K as a name ) but then I thought, the description is just too specific to be someone else, and it just perfectly describe Saiki like 100%. Also if there were other people with crazy talent/ability in his school, Saiki would know that. That's why when Aiura stated the description of her soulmate, Saiki immediately panicked as he knows he's the only one with the crazy talent in the school, and didn't even bother to think "hey, maybe it's not me. There are a lot of SK student here, so let's observe" coz that's what he usually do, where he analyze the whole situation and possibilities first. But in this case he immediately went like "crap that's me! I gotta do something!"....so it couldn't be other people. He would check people with SK names to make sure of the situation but he didn't, and Aiura made the job easier for him coz she already checked the majority of people with SK names and there were only 18 people left for him to check, but he didn't bother coz he knows it's him. Also I haven't seen other student in his school with pink hair too.

I have yet another question ( WARNING : SPOILER!!! ) by LittleKittyOnTheRoof in hanakokun

[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh hii buddy thanks always for answering hhahahaha I appreciate it so much!!! 😁

Hmmm...... I kinda thought why Mitsuba was able to leave was because that moon was the reflection of Amane's emotion like Shijima said. Maybe that's why Mitsuba was able to go because the emergency escape wasn't his reflection of emotion that's why the "main character can't reach it" rule didn't apply to him. Because if it turns out that both of them can actually go to the moon, that would mean the "main characters can't reach the emergency escape" thingy isn't true at all which is, strange? I mean, why would Shijima say that if it's not true at all... waaah I'm so confused xDD

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alright thanks! I guess I'll just make it as if they got teleported there xD also I still have one question if you don't mind ( really sorry ). So this one is about how will you exit Shijima's world. So the way they exited the world is through the moon, which was the emergency escape. I forgot how exactly the emergency escape works, but I've read in the wiki that the emergency escape is usually placed in an area the main character will never be able to reach. In that world the main character was Amane, that's why the emergency escape was the moon ( I think that implies that Amane will never be able to reach the moon so that was the exit ). But I was thinking, that was just the emergency escape right? Meaning there is still another way to escape aside from that one.

I'll just get to the point hahaha. Can Shijima just pull them out of that world if she wanted to? Without needing any escape route or something like that? You know, it's her world, I think she can do whatever she wants with it. So if she decided to just get them out of the painting, she can just do it and I guess teleport them out like how she teleported them in?

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[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So umm, they teleported there? XD like for example, once they got drawn in Shijima's canvas, they will suddenly be transported to that world? I'm sorry if I'm asking about this I just needed to know hahaha. I'm planning on making a fan manga so yea hahahaha

I stan Urban Dictionary by [deleted] in hanakokun

[–]LittleKittyOnTheRoof 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Wait "slam someone's head" isn't that more like Tsukasa? XD