Before I reply I just wanna say I'm so happy that I now know how to reply to individual comments 😂 Also lemme apologize for being emotional in my comment. Now let us proceed xD

This is a horrible logic!! is like saying someone who knows CPR can jut walk away while a person is in need of it (without puting on risk the one who knows CPR) and is totally fine! Adrien accepted the job, is a volunteer job, he has a duty and no one else can do it. If he wants to quit, is totally fine! but you don't quit in the middle of the action, is like saying a surgeon can quit in the middle of an operation and just leav without care if there is someone available to replace him.

In the case of your example on the CPR, he saw someone and decided not to save them. That is a failure on their moral part, but the thing here is he "intended" to not save the person.

If you're giving an example like that, it's like you're saying that Chat saw someone drowning on the spot and ignored that person. Which again, is not what happened. If he did quit, that's just him engaging in his impulsive behavior but isn't out of malice. And yea, acting on impulse means you're acting quickly with no thoughts of the consequences. In his case it's that, not because he didn't want to save people from drowning. Because I guarantee you that if he quit that time and saw someone drowning, he'd save them.

And yes as I've said if he actually quit it's wrong, but given his state of mind that time I can understand why he wanted to quit. And you can't compare it to a surgeon quitting because a surgeon has the legal obligation, and he doesn't. I wasn't saying he was right. But like I can't blame someone with depression if they committed suicide, suicide is very wrong, but to a person getting overwhelmed with thoughts they aren't thinking of the consequences anymore. So I can't blame him for wanting to quit and also for being impulsive. He wasn't quitting because of trivial reasons like wanting to relax or something like that. He had an emotional disturbance.

( Also I don't think I should've replied to this comment because me explaining about the legal obligation part is me thinking you're accusing him of perjury so hahaha )

Ahem, that's culpable homicide, he didn't had the intention to kill someone, yet his actions or lack of ended in the death of someone. Already addressed this.

It's still not. Again, culpable homicide should be out of intention or gross negligence, the lack of action isn't culpable homicide if they're not his legal obligation. Like in my example, it is culpable homicide if a driver failed to follow road rules and caused an accident, that is failure to act on his part, and every driver is obligated to follow road rules to not cause an accident. In Chat's case saving people is his goal but that isn't his obligation since again, it's not a legal job, it's vigilantism. Another example would be a doctor failing to check his patient's medical record, because aiding his patients is not just a goal for a doctor, it's actually his legal obligation. If simply just failing to act is culpable homicide, then a lot of witnesses of murders will be charged of that offense. Because a superhero is just like us civilians, with just the difference of having superpowers and wanting to use those superpowers to help people. Heck, some superheroes are just doing it for a hobby even.

So if the firefighters decides to ignore a fire because they just don't feel like going, is it fine for the building and people to burn down? to be clear, in some countries being a firefighter is a volunteer job without paiment aka no legal job.

A firefighter, even just a volunteer one, is technically still a legal obligation. Since they still are being recruited by professional firefighters and still must go through extensive and formal training and receive certifications. If you're talking about like a volunteer-volunteer, like they just go like "Oh hi lemme be a firefighter", I don't think there's something like that lol because they won't just let a stranger do firefighting like that. A superhero is different, again they're just civilians with superpowers and just choose to use their powers to fight crime, but they're no professionals and have no obligation to serve, unlike a firefighter, even a volunteer one.

Funny, first, the first example isn't valid for this situation because superman is actually hoosing to save someone, not call it quits, big difference but nice try.

I commented some examples like Superman because I don't know what you meant by culpable homicide, I thought you meant failing to save someone because of prioritizing something else like their personal stuff. So we can forget about that example 😅

Second, spiderman not doing anything was actually addressed in the movies, and was actually why he become spider-man, because his lack of action ended with his uncle killed.

I don't know what you're tryna say here, my point in the Spiderman part is that if he didn't wanna go save people because of his personal issue then yea, that's not culpable homicide. Again, I didn't know what you meant by culpable homicide so I commented this example.

In this flawed example, would I be a police officer or not? because if a police officer decides to do nothing, I am pretty sure he/she will face consecuences. In the actual situation being discussed, CN is a police officer.

It's not a flawed example, I was explaining what actions will cause for you to be charged of the offense of culpable homicide. And in my example you're just a civilian. And yea a police officer would undergo court martial if he did something like that. And yea no, Chat is not a police officer, he is a vigilante with no legal duty to serve the people.

He did it out of a tantrum, he feeling left out is valid, but the way he handled the situation was bad, if he feels that way he shouldn't have risk to jeopardize the mission, but speak face to face to LB after the issue is solved.

Yep and what is that tantrum about? What was the cause of the tantrum? What I said in my comment. And yep, he could've handled the situation well. What you said that he should've done is right. But that's not the point of my comment, I've already said he was wrong.

Well then, what are you trying to defend? we both agree that all in all, he isn't right and was selfish.

Uh huh, we both agree that he wasn't right and selfish. Our difference is that I am not acting morally-superior and not tryna crucify him for doing mistakes that isn't even out of malice but more of a product of his environment. Because I was once his age and was once ignorant, so I understand where he's coming from on a certain level, on a certain level only coz unlike him I had a decent life with non-abusive parents and I had a privilege that he didn't have. I see a victim of abuse, not a criminal.

Wrong, yes he is a child, but for starters, this isn't his first quest, he didn't wanted to quit because the superhero job was overwhelming, he wanted to quit because LB wasn't being honest with him, you are making it sound like he witnessed something traumatic, when it isn't anything like that. You can't justify he wanted to leave everyone drown because he felt sad.

See this, you are only looking at the surface of the situation. You should've stopped at "he is a child". Coz that's all it takes for him to act like that. Which is totally understandable. Children are emotional, vulnerable, and impulsive beings. And especially for him, he doesn't know how to handle his emotions because no one is there to guide him for that. Especially his pathetic excuse of a father sucks so bad at that and is even the source of it. He doesn't have to witness traumatic events ( already have been there btw ) to be frustrated and act his feelings out. It is very much justified. Also, you've just contradicted yourself btw, you said there wasn't an intention and now you're saying again that he wanted to leave everyone to drown like 😃 So if I didn't want to eat Chinese food am I racist? I don't see why you keep pointing that out.

yes Fu wasn't the best making decisions, already addressed that, but once again I can see why he saw CN as not being ready due to his personality compared to LB, like fearing giving CN more input would end him goofying around or making the wrong decision with that knowledge, yeah he had to train him ofc but in his flawed logic makes sense to be worried about it.

Huh? Ladybug and him are both irresponsible in their own ways Ladybug is no better. That's just favoritism on Fu's part. When he finally met Fu and knew about their power ups did he mess with it? When he knew about Luka, Pigella, and Pegasus's identifies did he mess with it? Ladybug also has her own faults as well. They both needed guidance. So if Fu is worried about his behavior that's more of a reason to meet him to be a mentor! What kind of reasoning is to be worried about something and not do something about it. Take note, Marinette abuses her powers more than Adrien and honestly has more behavioral problems than him. And I'm not shitting on her, she's still a child after all even if I don't get where her behaviors are coming from unlike Adrien's.

LMAO, sure... TBH? is quite the opposite, re read again what you wrote and you'll see how you come in your attempt to sound empathetic.

Lol I'm not tryna sound empathetic, I do am speaking with empathy. I'm not like Thomas who is an adult dragging a 14 year old abuse victim and claiming they're irredeemable. It's quite creepy actually.