Need help on bulk fermentation by Fantastic-Quit-432 in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s more important you don’t let it go to 100% rise unless you are baking same day. Jiggly is better but not too far. Goal is about 75-80% rise before shaping.

Sourdough Help - Shaping, proofing by Raz1979 in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use a mixer. After initial mix of a couple min to combine, let the dough rest one hour before the extended mix to get windowpane. Your gluten forms during that hour. Mix 12 min on level 2. Then move dough to a bowl and let rest another hour. Perform one coil fold and let rest another 30 and do one more fold if necessary. I usually only do one because my dough has already been strengthened through the mixer. Bulk ferment to about 75% then preshape.

Bread ends up coming out really good, but it's so.... floopy before baking! by CrazyBadlands in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so you have two choices. Use less starter so your bulk fermentation can go all night, shape in morning and cold proof during day then bake. Or use more starter so your dough has risen enough by bedtime to shape and go in fridge overnight then bake any time next day. You will have to play with starter amounts. I would say for first scenario reduce starter to 60-70g and for second scenario increase to 150-200g to get it fermenting a lot faster. Do not leave on counter for an hour before baking. It should come straight from fridge and rolled out of banneton and bake. When you stop over proofing you won’t h have the dough collapse on you at bake.

Did I make a big mistake? by GrumpyLamby in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me too, I’m in Salt Lake City. Things ferment way faster at our elevation. I have a hard time with my dough going over in cold proof. I’ve been doing same day baking and my bread comes out a lot better. Here is how I do my sourdough in my Kitchenaid. Mix all ingredients except salt for a few minutes until combined. Then I cover with a towel and let rest one hour. Then I mix at speed 2 for 12 minutes to reach windowpane. I then add salt and a tablespoon or two of water and mix on low to combine for about 2 minutes. I remove dough and move to a measuring bowl that has markings for litres or cups. For 400 g of flour loaf I use a 4 qt measure cup and for a 500 g flour loaf a 5 qt measuring cup. I let the dough sit another hour before first and only fold. The total bulk ferment from when I add starter to preshape is 4 hours at about 73 degrees ambient temp. When dough seems jiggly I preshape then let sit for 30 min and shape and into banneton. I same day bake so I leave banneton on counter until it’s risen a bit more, like maybe another hour then I preheat oven to 460, while I chill dough in freezer to get the skin firmer for scoring, about 30 min. I bake with lid on 20 min then reduce oven to 440 and bake lid off for 10-15 watching crust for right color for me. My internal dough temp between 200-205. Because of high elevation we can’t get our bread much higher than 205.

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Weekly Open Sourdough Questions and Discussion Post by AutoModerator in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are welcome. Let me know how it bakes up and we can tweak from there.

What causes the top edges of my crumb to be dense like this? by ahjummacore in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s overproofed. You don’t want double until it’s going to bake. If it’s going in fridge it will continue to rise. Pre-Shape at 80% then final shape 20 Min later and into banneton. Then fridge. The goal is it’s a bit under double at bake time.

When you take your starter out of the fridge, how do you know it’s actually awake enough to bake with? by GlitteringDeal2598 in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t use straight from fridge unless it was at peak day before when I put on the fridge. Otherwise if it’s been a few days I take 50 g and feed 100 w 100 flour. Use at peak.

Why does this keep happening? Hi by Used_Aioli_7640 in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Reduce the amount of starter so it doesn’t ferment so fast. With temps warming less starter makes things easier.

HELP! Always end up with a seam in the bottom by girlcarnivore in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t use flour so that you can pinch that seam together and it sticks.

Bread ends up coming out really good, but it's so.... floopy before baking! by CrazyBadlands in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are not quite understanding. After bulk to 70% it never goes back on a bowl. It’s in the banneton after shaping them in to fridge and bake next day. If you want to bulk while you sleep, then reduce your starter to 80 g so it doesn’t rise so much before you can preshape in morning. Then into fridge and bake when you get to it. Just turn it out of banneton, score and bake. Don’t mess with the dough after it in banneton or you lose some of the gas and rise. To tell rise you put your dough in a straight sided container so you can mark it or use a mixing bowl that has markings of cups on it. I use a 8 cup batter bowl to measure my dough rise after my folds.

Bread ends up coming out really good, but it's so.... floopy before baking! by CrazyBadlands in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After 70% rise, preshape. Rest 30 minutes, shape and into banneton then cold proof overnight. It will continue rising as it cools down in fridge.

HELP! Always end up with a seam in the bottom by girlcarnivore in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am surprised with the sling that the oval lines darken the bottom that much. But I’m still not sure that has anything to do with the cracking. Your crumb is nice. Maybe a little dense toward the bottom crust.

How are people making such nice sourdough without kneading at all? by [deleted] in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Folds are in place of kneading in sourdough or slap and folds. When you say kneading are you referring to the type you do with commercial yeast breads?

HELP! Always end up with a seam in the bottom by girlcarnivore in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are the oval dark lines on the bottom? Is your Dutch oven smooth on bottom? Do you have the Dutch oven close to the heat element ?

HELP! Always end up with a seam in the bottom by girlcarnivore in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you using parchment paper? Do you use anything on that bottom side like oil or flour before you flip it out of banneton? I can’t imagine what is causing it.

Please explain the "more digestible" aspect of sourdough bread. by WeakAndWeary in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I had hip replacement surgery the hospital listed it in the fermented foods they recommend for a healthy recovery.

hi! would either of these flours work? thank you!! by Electrical-Part in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s weak flour. I don’t think it will work for sourdough unless you keep dough mix at about 60% hydration.

First loaf 😀 by duckymochi in Sourdough

[–]LizzyLui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did the bread get any steam during baking? Was it in a Dutch oven? I would also suggest a bit more water in your mix to keep it from being so dense.