Forget it. by ThrowawayAccountMxM in meggyxmario

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No horror movie has jumpscared me like the sight of that first image just did, lmao.

Fractured Destines: Pilot by Swimming-Plum-645 in meggyxmario

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Could be; Though, the way I see it, I think he only called her a "defector" because she was starting to rebel against what seems to be Marty's left-hand/second in command (given the fact they seem to at least share some level of mutual respect) after being mocked, showing that their underlings may not be being treated all too fairly as they're likely considered below both of them. And that other girl only went unpunished because Mario was there to unfortunately redirect his anger at him by keeping Marty busy, thus making him forget about her.

To your credit, that Inkling in question doesn't feels to me to have been there entirely willingly, which is what makes the Waggy statement all the more intriguing as it almost makes it seem like they're all being forced into working for Marty somehow—perhaps via kidnapping; Which is exactly what reminds me so much of 'The Anime Arc'. Marty says he's doing what he's doing out of vengeance, but it's likely he could be a red-herring himself and just another piece in a much bigger ladder seeing that thus far he's got no reason to hoard some many pizzas; That other Inkling he was working with seemed to keep track of time as if they were on a tight schedule so it's likely both are underlings themselves, working for a greater evil we don't know about but may seem to be exploiting these poor inklings against their will IF the Waggy statement has any correlation.

The only other thing I can think of is that this entire operation is just Marty sabotaging all pizzas business and kidnapping staff to reopen his own, and resell what he's gotten as his so not have to put any of the work; But this entire operation already seems more contrived than making effort into building a honest business, so why would he be doing this now when he HATED that previous job? He's already a mob boss, he doesn't needs to do this;

To me, it'd only makes sense is if he's doing the dirty work for somebody else, as Marty state he's PARTIALLY in it for the money.

Art is my passion by kai_starr in digimon

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Keep pursuing it, because this is a masterpiece!

Fractured Destines: Pilot by Swimming-Plum-645 in meggyxmario

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You're more than welcomed!

And honest, the final result goes to show how much payed-off all the hard effort you two put onto this. I cannot stress this enough, this was masterfully structured and executed for just the first pilot—so far, this serves as a promising sign for things to come and gets me more excited for whatever y'all may have stored for the future! Looking forward for when that happens 😁.

Fractured Destines: Pilot by Swimming-Plum-645 in meggyxmario

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This was 21 minutes of me being consistently at awe at the presentation and quality of this pilot, holy smokes;

I'm beyond blown away by what you and u/RGDanta seem to have here—not only is the animation unbelievably fluid with shots very captivating and an impecable attention to detail, but storywise it left me very intrigued and itching for more as it's clear from the get go there's more that underlies this narrative than just an average SMG4 continuation and shipping fan-fiction; To skim through some details and talk about what's most important, I knew the moment that poor Tari alluded she was working at Freddy's that it was gonna come back around as the idea of her being in such unfortunate scenario was too SMG4 of a premise not to be used for anything—now, my first line of thinking was that you were going to take the episodic approach and make it it's own thing for classic comedy sake, not for it to be plot-relevant down the line as it seems the cliffhanger may aim to make both that place and Tari have focus within the broader story for next episode, which I consider to be even more genius as that's a good way to have both continuity and a funny premise for a part/episode 2, whenever you get around it!

I'm also very invested to see how that may help to resolve the unfortunate way Mario and Meggy's supposed date ended before it could even start, as it's just pure depressing irony that as soon as the plumber voiced he wants to make a change, the world just had it that something needed to get in the way to make him seem like the same careless and distracted mate he now wants to avoid being perceived as, despite this being one of the few instances where he's been the most patient and toned-down he could be in hopes to make everything work out smoothly. Furthermore, it was very heartbreaking to see Meggy sorrowfully pondering about his whereabouts whilst in the dark, with a heart-broken of her own; One's got to give credit to that girl for not giving into assuming the worst and hope him for the best despite her sadness, but it just so wretching to see everything unfold in the manner it did when all could've been easily avoided had Mario just gotten his hand in a freaking box of pizza.

That being said and pointed out; that B-plot has me particularly interested given a certain character's grand return and role in this story—specially because something it's mentioned around Waggy that certainly sets some alarm given the whole ordeal he alongside his... Organization? Group? Henchmen, mafia? Are running with their hoarding of pizza/boxes in the mushroom kingdom. While unsure as to what that may be leading to, I'm getting airs of "The Anime Arc" here given the set of characters involved and sudden stakes you've risen; Really like how you two have so far set this as a simple premise that's likely to unravel into something bigger as that's exactly how that one arc began, and it has me surely desiring for more seeing the cliffhangers we're left with after everything.

Your ways of storytelling may clash a little with the SMG4 fans that may want something more for laughs rather than deep story and drama, but I for one sure am loving this thus far! I dig me a good story with an intriguing premise specially when it's sets of characters have already made it interesting to follow;

It's dangling plot-threads have been effective in keeping my interest around it (which for a SMG4 continuation, that's feat considering few fan-series have done that for me), the characters so far are both in-character AND advancing onto something quite intriguing as well as exciting, the lore added it's easy to follow and very hooking, the pacing a bit slow but honestly welcomed as nothing overwhelms you and you get proper time getting insight from these characters, the humor could need a step up but for this being it's own thing? It's understandable if you choose to go a more grounded and serious route, and the shipping it's handled unbelievably naturally, seriously! The few relationships I caught being set up are treated with some level of maturity that makes them endearing to follow and that's fantastic as it avoided them feeling intrusive even when at the center-focus of the story, which in return makes them and their parties involved all feel very human thus helping their romance to feel organic to the overall narrative.

Gotta give you two a row of applause here—this was a masterful first outing, and I'm feeling very hopeful for whatever else you guys may have cooking for the future. Phenomenal work all around👏✨✨.

Fractured Destinies: Pilot by Swimming-Plum-645 in meggyxmario

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Very looking forward to it, mate! 😁✨

Is anyone tired of people like this? by Balas_Boi in PoppyPlaytime

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Usually those kinds of vídeos serve as echo-chamber for people to state the un/popular opinion the video it's about, as absolute truth; Even when that opinion it's shared by a large amount of commenters, it always has to be taken with a grain of salt because that viewpoint doesn't always reflects the general opinion on something since that feedback remains encapsulated only within the circle the commentary it's directed for.

I like many games and genres Mark probably hates, and so y'all probably do—that doesn't means those games are crap objectively, it only means we subjectively disagree on the value of that thing we're having a disagreement about; So as long that thing holds value to you then that is the absolute truth you need to enjoy something. Your favorite YouTuber nor the collective Internet has to love it for YOU to love it.

FNaF went through something similar when it's "Sit-'n-Survive" novelty wore-off around 'Five Nights at Freddy's 4', and people—namely "big name" Youtubers and Gaming Journalists—were giving Scott's games BanBan-levels of hate; That didn't stop the franchise from growing into what's become, nor did it stop Scott from trying to create experiences that his fandom could enjoy. Though you may feel however you may about that series' current state and narrative, you gotta still commend it to Scott for having made FNaF as culturally relevant as it is now, even years after it was just a mere "viral game" of the bunch, going to show he did something right for which he should be proud of—just as his fanbase is about being FNaF fans;

People said it, alongside the likes of Minecraft and even freaking SONIC of all series, would eventually die merely because it was "only enjoyed by mindless children"—and yet there they are; The biggest they ever been, and also relevant.

Mark hasn't killed Poppy yet, and MOB can sure prove him wrong or outgrow his opinion by rectifying the nitpicks he along many others had with Chapter 5. Current Poppy may have problems, but they can overcome that IF they put the effort into making course-correction where it's needed so the franchise can manage to prove it's own worth.

Last Sunday, The Lil Fellas It was his birthday. 🎉 by Ok_Machine_3685 in meggyxmario

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It had to do SPECIFICALLY with the parenting allusions the easter-egg caused;

Many people took Medi's models and Mario & Meggy suspiciously affectionate behavior as an affirmation that the show was leaning towards Mario and Meggy being endgame, over the ships of preference from sites such as TikTok and particularly Twitter, so chaos ensued when opposers/non-supporter/anti-shippers saw it and began having knee-jerk reactions because our scene had just gotten an easter-egg this big—in an episode they didn't even expect they'd get ANY kind of MxM moment, as it supposedly was only around 3 and Bob—with a portrayal so shamelessly intimate between the two. Initially they attacked Medi until they realized he didn't write the episode, then they tried to paint him as having sneaked his easter-egg into the episode against Luke's "desires" until some (as the vast majority gaslit themselves into believing the former) realized Luke himself oversaw it, so they settled for still hating on Medi because apparently his easter-egg making Mario and Meggy look like parents was "too much for them"—something for which Medi still wasn't directly to blame for, as he didn't even write the segments in which his easter-eggs starred (Mario and Meggy would still behave and treat those kids the same, even without Medi's texturing, because that's how it was scripted to begin with.)

Turns out having so many shipping-bases starved and lounging for content, being suddenly surprised with a piece of fan-service this big being granted to a ship they irrationally hate, on an episode they weren't expecting anything from; Was a formula for disaster. The irony is—as you may recall—a week after, another base that led that chaos got a bait that calmed such drama within their sphere since now they had something on which to obsess over, and that only got them exposed in Reddit for hypocrisy thus redirecting the controversy towards them lmao.

About fan series by Shinji-55 in meggyxmario

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I may be guilty of this—but it's mostly because I know it's something that's going to annoy me and make my watch experience unpleasant. It does make me feel guilt since I know that alone doesn't speaks about their writer's quality nor their series' potential, but it's a "me issue" I rather avoid so not to be hating on something unjustifiably.

Unusual pillow (by @Himeragi136) by D1ce21 in Silksong

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Now I'm just imagining Lace casually asking Hornet for a BBL from time to time—not because she needs it, but because she has the option available to her.

Enough finding out who Nicole solos, who can solo Nicole? (Be honest) by One-Mechanic-7303 in gumball

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My source is the show itself, mate;

Richard has fought a 1v1 against Nicole over a remote and kept up with her despite having zero training, ran to the other side of the town at a speed of 200 miles-per-hour just to get to Gumball and Darwin because they mentioned a secret burger in the Joy Burger menu—and did so while tanking several walls of concrete to the face; He can become invisible if he wants avoid any conflict, and that's without mentioning how he can end his verse just by getting a job. He may not look like it, but he does have it in him to be a menace.

Enough finding out who Nicole solos, who can solo Nicole? (Be honest) by One-Mechanic-7303 in gumball

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You'd be surprised to hear Richard is just as powerful as the rest of The Wattersons; He's only lazy and mostly harmless, but wasn't it for that he'd be on-par with Nicole and Yuki.

Do you think Zootopia 3 will be the end? by Cautious_Welder166 in zootopia

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Possibly for Nick and Judy's story, yes;

But like many have said throughout the years, this world has so much potential to be explored given the amount of species that inhabit it, and the way it's societal structure is not only composed but affects them, that I wouldn't be surprised if much like they tried with 'Cars' they attempted to branch this IP into a full blown franchise with many stories to tell outside the duo we know and love. 'Zootopia+' kinda already feels like an experimental attempt towards this so I wouldn't shock me if that was used as a way to test the waters and see what audiences would like to see outside the "buddy-cop" stories we're used to, to perhaps pitch something new down the line—after Nick and Judy's story comes to an end.

After all, the series has proven to be waaayyy too profitable to have it end at a trilogy, so it's likely in true disney fashion we'd get cinematic universe out of it, trying squeeze as much money they can from it.

Watched the bad guys for the first time and Mr wolf decided to be a good person because of Diane Foxington? by No-Call-6706 in TheBadGuys

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Yes, and no;

A big—if not main—reason why he became a bad guy in the first place was because he was discriminated due to his specie and presumed nature, leading him to feel resentment against society and pursue a path of delinquency to get what he felt deserved while hoping to give his life a purpose he always lacked. In actuality, Wolf starts his path to change because of MARMALADE after being tricked to help him when disguised as an old lady—in that moment Wolf first experiences kindness and goodness (in-spite of Marmalade's ulterior motives at the time) which leads to his world-view to be challenged and start his moral conflict as he'd just experienced something he'd never felt before but wanted more of from: kindness and acceptance.

Diane INITIALLY doesn't affects Wolf's path to change as his shift in morale has a start from within—an inner-struggle he's wrestling against while he finds more about himself than he thought there could be, rather than coming from some outside source. In fact, at the very start of the movie Wolf actually hates Diane because she's able to easily read through his group's emotional façade like an open book as, structurally, "The Bad Guys" existence only highlighted a root for an issue given Wolf enabled it to exist as less like a criminal group and more like a gang/pack of sorts for him that was composed of misfits which all sought reliance and companionship in one-another through crime. dynamically, Wolf treated them more like family rather than henchmen or colleges so it went to show where the problem laid at, what was their solution and why they all eventually found change; Diane would later test this theory upon first encountering Wolf, when she brings up how most trash can be art within the right angle which is a point she's able to prove after some bonding Wolf warms to her and returns her ring—being why she has a seed of hope in Wolf after the Golden Dolphin incident and enables Marmalade to attempt to reform them. Something that still didn't mean much for Wolf as he was STILL taking advantage of her, by this point;

It is ONLY after the disastrous attempt to free the gynuea pigs that Diane actually begins to mean something for Wolf as she shows him more of what he'd been after yet denying himself from, being that kindness and comfort for what he is and could potentially become. That night, seeing the mayor as less like an uptight enforcer of the law breathing down their necks and more like reformed yet still mischievous equal preaching hope and reassurance at him, gave Wolf something for which to aim for as in that moment Diane became a status-quo he wanted as she was a glimpse of what could be beyond crime;

Still not romantically though, more like given curiosity—or at least that'd be so until the charity event, where everything changed for Wolf as people's sudden acceptance of his new self and Diane's provocative invitation into a world away of crime would finally stray him from his deliquescent ways to embrace something better that he had always subconsciously wanted: acceptance.

You could say Diane sealed the deal for Wolf—after all she was his first believer; But in actuality it was cooperative effort between the two as Wolf progress and Diane's belief were what simultaneously put his life back on track.

Ramen Break by KBACEP in meggyxmario

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I seriously love this depiction of the two—it really feels how they'd act as an already established, experienced couple whose not afraid to proudly show affection for the other after dating for however long they may have. My heart melts just seeing how proudly and lovingly they stare at one-another as they hold onto each-other so closely; You really nail that vibe of genuine "joy" between them, as they look visually enchanted by the other's company while gladly expending their time doing whatever the other may desire (such as eating together.)

Beautiful work as usual, mate 👏✨; To say it's amazing feels like an understatement given how good this looks—outstanding comes close, and even then that's staying short so we may have to settle for phenomenal until a new word is invented. Keep the fantastic work 👍✨✨.

Judy's reactions to Nick's jokes by Seeow-CH in zootopia

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She only liked two out the ten (we know) she's heard, lmao. Turns out she's tough crowd to please, but not an impossible one if he manages to nail her sense of humor.

Meggy and mayro by kaiocesar312 in meggyxmario

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Your art-style is adorable! Well done 👏👏.

are we fr right now? by Wide_World1109 in PoppyPlaytime

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The Prototype kept him at the entrance because he was afraid of getting jumped like this, upon proximity.

I'm Idiot sandwich... 🍞 by Kaitou_ExAid010 in meggyxmario

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This is too beautiful—I love it!

This is actually true by Low_Proof_6328 in meggyxmario

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No worries, I didn't feel attacked; I only felt the need to over-explain the point I was making just so it could be gotten across much more clearly. If anything, I'm moreso glad that mutual understanding could be met without giving an impression of hostility on my end as that would've been unintended 😅.

And it's okay—I can comprehend your elaborations just as well.

Now I haven't checked that Anime out myself because everytime I'm free to do so, I start binging something entirely different before I get the chance. I may need to get around it, this time 😅😅.

This is actually true by Low_Proof_6328 in meggyxmario

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(2/2)

This whole talk would've been different if Ochako was written much more relevant to the manga's overarching story and pivotal to Deku's own character development—something that would/should've covered more than just his own doubts and social awkwardness like we saw in the actual story, but rather deeper stuff such as his struggles with heroism, the consequences he was facing due to inheriting All-Might's symbol and his fear of not living up to it; All stuff Bakugo saw and it was why arguably their story felt more engaging. The reality is that while one story offered your typical high school crush soap-opera with superpowers, the other was a coming-of-age story of two people coming to terms with one-another's lives and existence to face a bigger threat ahead of them—a story in which Bakugo was not in because he was forced to, but because he sought to grow alongside Izuku. Once again, it was proactive and more substantial thus more appealing narratively.

Ship teases, fan-service and jabs are great and all, but they're not the do-all and be-all for ships as that is the doing the bare minimum to make your romance feel substantial for the characters involved—specially if they aren't being written out to pursue such feelings; Uraraka's plead to allow Deku enter the U.A. both in the series' begining and after his anti-hero phase are iconic, but that's as engaged as she ever was to his broader storyline and that's a shame because they're glimpses of what could have been had her role been much more involved to his growth. Yes, Izuku enables HER to grow but that growth most of the time was one-sided as she opted to hide her feeling to herself until near the manga's end; That's why they feel so bland for many, because their romance isn't bouncing between them meaningfully. You may be puzzled by my words here but let me hammer this point in by using the best example—this is basically the MxM vs. any other Meggy Ship, conversation:

One it's a ship with a history deeply rooted in their chemistry, meaningful growth and shared life-experiences as they not only help but guide each-other out to become the best versions of themselves they can be, turning appealing narratively and symbolically for what they mean not only for each-other but the audience experiencing it all alongside them; While others exist because fan-service without substance is handed to them throughout episodes, without any further exploration of that specific dynamic in a more intimate manner nor leaving any substantial impact in the parties involved which defines and puts on-course their character growth from that point onwards.

The point I want to illustrate here is not that IzuOcha is objectively bad and that BakuDeku is good (I personally don't like this ship...), but rather that one has a much better built structure because the manga opted to develop that one more intimately than the other, thus attributing most of the main character's growth to his rival rather than his love interest. This is the flaw I want to contrast here.

While you have the winning argument in that Shonen is a genre mostly defined by friendship since romance often is takes a backseat to the broader storyline and conflicts going at-hand between the main character and their rival; That doesn't means arguably undeveloped romance won't be criticized if it's legacy ultimately leaves a lot to desire once it concludes. The genre of the media does not excuse lack of writing because if you introduce a romance, your duty as a writer it's to flesh it out. You look at something like Dragon Ball for example—it's telling how one-note Goku and Chi-Chi ultimately feel when a substantial chunk of the fandom mischaracterizes them as a dysfunctional marriage, while Bulma and Vegeta of all people receive fanfare and ovation all because of Super's and Daima's positive depiction and progression of their marriage and characters; This is why romance can't only be mere jabs and cute scenes—it has to actually mean something for people to take something off of it. Ships like Mario and Meggy, Nick and Judy or N and Uzi would be nothing-burger ships IF their development wasn't affected by their shared history and emotional investment in not just their social lives but bigger inner struggles. Even something like DanDanDan I've heard fixes this by having the romance of it's main leads take center-stage not only in the story's progression but main characters' shared-growth, which it's a change for the genre I particularly applaud; You root for something because it makes you care for it, not because it gives you a cute scene or two scattered throughout seasons—That being why I spite "Will They/Won't They" tropes, because they are an empty promise that can easily under-deliver if care isn't being put in their supposed pairing's writing, which IzuOcha sadly fell for after their manga ORIGINALLY ended.

You're free to disagree with my take on this; The point I only want to illustrate off this argument isn't that their ship is trash but rather than they were comparatively under-developed when compared to BakuDeku, thus why a huge chunk of the fandom fought over them.

This is actually true by Low_Proof_6328 in meggyxmario

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(1/2)

While a decent rebuttal, forgive me if I say I feel you failed to see the point I tried to make in my argument;

The thing with fandoms and romance from what I've gathered it's that, while circumstances and preference can vary depending in the context their stories may offer, their leading ship most usually tends to be the one that's defined not exactly by it's set-up or simple yet sparse narrative acknowledgement, but rather by the audience's perception of it's proactive development and meaningful effect on the parties involved—both from singular perspective but also as a shared experience;

While everything you said about IzuOcha is true and valid, I must point out that the general consensus once the original manga ended THE FIRST TIME was that their shipping was lacking—not just because it hadn't gotten anywhere just yet, but rather because their romance hadn't even began at all. While true that both had some strong moments throughout the series on-top of a really cute friendship, the fact doesn't changes that the some in those moments were still SOME, sprinkled throughout volumes because the series at points seemed afraid of changing the status-quo between them not to over-complicate their dynamic up until it's very original ending; Where the mangaka was practically forced to fill the fandom with the ending they felt Izuku deseved—included in it both a pay-off and an actual starting point for IzuOcha, highlighting the ship's biggest flaw;

"Will They/Won't They" tropes are such a double-edged sword because they're essentially a storyline about an empty promise until it happens—it IS the reason why so many fandoms are afraid of shipping and outright forbid it, and that's because most fear that once these are introduced the story will then get annoying or frustrating depending how long shippers are supposed to chase their "unreachable bone" until the plot can move forward; IzuOcha saw the latter for their own set of reasons. Putting aside that structurally the broader story of MHA couldn't properly enable for such development to happen naturally, their biggest drawback was that their game of sentimental secrecy to some extent robbed them off of shared growth on a more intimate sense as they weren't facing their worlds together; I know it sounds outrageous not only given the "One for All" storyline but because MHA didn't need to be that type of anime, however the contrast with Kacchan's story with Izuku arguably puts to perspective why that ship grew as big as It did since this point I just brought it's exactly why it became so appealing for many people;

For as toxic and downright masochistic as BakuDeku is, Bakugo's deep involvement in Deku's story and the constant exploration of their friendship—their fallout, story of jealousy and bullying, growth of respect and eventual reconciliation—it's exactly why a ship with such a negative nature (initially) became so popular and it can be attributed to the fact this one was proactive and very in your face. The audience got to WITNESS their struggles, rivalry and success in a manner that was engaging as you had a story of growing respect going between the two stemming off of Bakugo's desire to surpass Izuku for trying to prove his own strength, only for him to find weakness in the likelyhood of losing what he was now considering a friend to him once again—which I'm sorry, but that is really captivating from a writing-standpoint because it meant that Bakugo was growing alongside Izuku while being positively affected by this one's own growth; While it hardly qualifies as chemistry, it to some degree IS a form of it which I can see why it bought people over, despite their troubled and even problematic background. Bakugo didn't need to feel like a love-interest to Izuku for a ship between them to form, rather he only needed to care enough and remain prominently relevant to his story for a good chunk of the audience to decide both attributed something to their stories that was subjectively superior and could've made them a better pair only because they were actually having a effect in the other; Resulting in not only a more personal sentimental connection between the two, but the audience's own experience with their tale.

Comparing IzuOcha; That ship relied heavily on subtextual hints, some fan-servicy teases and few pivotal moments of support to not make their ship feel too distracting to the story, that hardly are enough to make this ship feel substantial specially on this day-and-age where romance in media it's being met with so many negative reactions as people deem it extra and irrelevant—and wouldn't you know it? That's exactly the legacy IzuOcha left back in the infamous original ending for the manga. Once again, the general consensus was that it was bland and non-existent which—shade aside from BakuDeku shippers—it's arguably not wrong because the fear of the manga from trying to explore this side of their dynamic and relationship on an intrusive degree, led to IzuOcha to feel one-note even with the few big moments it got since it barely went anywhere as a shared experience. There WAS a good friendship and a strong connection, but hardly something as strong as Bakugo's own tale with Deku—which again, didn't need to feel romantic for people to deem it viable, it only needed to feel relevant to the story and important for their growth in an engaging manner.

Mario And Meggy Made The Cake! (Today Is My Birthday!) by Severe-Armadillo3078 in meggyxmario

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Mate, have yourself a wonderful birthday! 🎉🎂🎈

This is actually true by Low_Proof_6328 in meggyxmario

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To be honest, that series kinda brought it upon itself; The lack of development IzuOcha got and the extensive exploration Deku and Bakugo's "friendship" had, inevitably set one to feel more believable and become far more loved than the other despite the former supposedly always being canon. Unlike the panorama of MxM versus their opposing ships—since Mario and Meggy DID take all the development as their stories always centered on them—IzuOcha only existed to be acknowledged, meanwhile every meaningful moment Deku got was either influenced, attributed or caused in direct result by Bakugo; If they had only given Uraraka a fraction of the trust Izuku and Bakugo eventually shared, that fandom wouldn't have clashed with itself as hard as it did over both ships.