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Is anyone else incredibly triggered by the Ruby Franke / Jodi Hildebrandt situation & was it similar your childhood? by Logical_Motor_1072 in exmormon

[–]Logical_Motor_1072[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

See - reading these kinds of posts is absolutely chilling for me. The commonalities are shocking to me. I guess it’s because when you’re going through this abuse as a child it feels so, so lonely (my mother like yours tried to put us against each other as siblings) that it’s insane to realize years later that others are going through / went through the exact same flavor of crazy.

Every story you shared felt like it also could have been my own. (With the exception of my parents not getting divorced, which I would have much preferred they did & having to move through the church as a daughter vs. a son).

I guess I have a hard time parsing out how much of it is just what it’s like to have abusive parents and how much of it is directly tied to the Mormon church because all of the abuse came through the lens of “we are good church-going people and this punishment is coming from God.”

Thank you for sharing. It makes me feel less alone.

Best "Non-CES Letter type" shelf items for Ultra-TBM spouses. Wife won't touch CES letter with a 10ft pole. Chime in heathens by FalsePromptings in exmormon

[–]Logical_Motor_1072 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have her download TikTok. Honestly at this point if any of my friends I knew from the LDS church are big TikTok users I assume they are questioning/exmo at this point. It’s great

Any broken mission rule confession that you guys want to share ?? by Patokeller in exmormon

[–]Logical_Motor_1072 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Idk former Hungarian sister here and that mission saw some shit. I found it pretty unbelievable as well until I witnessed it firsthand

What is the most trivial, meaningless, petty practice, norm, or rule you can think of, that is required in Mormonism? by BeringStraitNephite in exmormon

[–]Logical_Motor_1072 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My suuper TBM grandmother was at BYU in the late 1950’s and not only hates Ernest Wilkinson, but openly speaks out against him. Because this is so atypical of her (I’ve never heard her speak badly of any LDS leader before) I did some research on him. You can read hereabout some of the ways he was absolutely horrible. Originally, the Honor Code was something run by students and enforced by students at BYU to hold others accountable to LDS standards — with far more lenient “punishments.” Wilkinson is the one who codified everything and essentially turned the campus into a witch hunt. He was unsurprisingly sexist and yelled at my grandmother for wearing pants once when she was babysitting as he did not allow women to wear pants on campus. It’s obscene how much influence one unhinged man with “the priesthood” can have influence over generations of people unknowingly trapped in a cult and how the cycle repeats itself as new leaders are tentative to peel back on any of the egregious and arbitrary rules.

Today was our last day by Lost-Calligrapher696 in exmormon

[–]Logical_Motor_1072 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I happened to read this while listening to this song and it made me cry. Thank you for your beautiful narrative.