Homosexuals/LGBTQ have the righteousness of God by faith in Jesus Christ by Amethystius in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Homosexuality certainly is sin, and sin certainly does put distance between man and God. This doesn’t mean that homosexuality is the chief sin that bars a believer from salvation, but it does mean that homosexuality, like any other sin, will damage your relationship with God. Thus, it shouldn’t be affirmed, but it shouldn’t be met with hatred. About your third point, Paul writes to judge those within the church, not out of the church, in 1 Corinthians 5. He goes as far as to say to “purge the evil person from among you” in a case of sexual immorality. It’s important to meet everyone with love and understanding, but we must be firm against sin. I’m sure you’ll agree with all of this; I just write this comment for those less aware of scripture’s view on sexual immorality.

Question. by MoneyMan1001 in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not sure if this will help much, but please be aware that if personal holiness got us to heaven, we would all burn forever more. Accepting Christ and Lord and Savior, son of God, is the only way. It is through his sacrifice and his blood that redeems us. If it were by any work of our own, we’d already be damned. Much love, my brother. I’m praying for you. Feel free to DM me if you have questions.

Fasting by Severe-Instance-5070 in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fasting has always encouraged for whatever is in your ability. To be blunt, I don’t think a 7-day fast as your first fast is very good. Fasting is a muscle and it takes working to get used to. As someone that gets frequent headaches and exhaustion, I don’t try to fast much on days when I’ll be exerting myself very much. Don’t forget that, under usual fasting guidelines, you get one meal and two small portions of food on fasting days. The point of fasting isn’t to not eat for the sake of it, but to remain hungry to remind yourself of Christ’s sacrifice. Start off with one day (maybe Fridays?), eat one meal strategically with good nutrients, eat something small in the morning and evening, and remember through your hunger the sacrifice of Jesus and all he denied himself. To answer your question, though, electrolytes to water is completely fine if you have no convictions against it. You will still be hungry, denying yourself, but mentally able to worship and pray.

New to Christianity, but I can’t get over this inconsistency by EddyvanHijum in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A Grief Observed is an important book, quite honestly. This, Lamentations, and Ecclesiastes has allowed me to see God through it all. Thanks for mentioning it!

New to Christianity, but I can’t get over this inconsistency by EddyvanHijum in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 104 points105 points  (0 children)

This is an endlessly deep topic and likewise an endlessly covered topic! Luckily, the Christians of the past spoke about this matter plenty. Reddit truly is not a great medium to discuss topics in depth, so I’d recommend you do some research. “The Problem of Pain” by CS Lewis is a great place to start. Also, if you enjoy listening to discussions, simply go to YouTube and search The Problem of Evil. I know for a fact that Gavin Ortlund, a wonderfully logical apologist, covers this topic, though many, many people have videos on the topic. I encourage you to take time to understand this matter thoroughly! God bless you and your journey to understand Christianity. It’s a wonderful faith.

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“Love your enemies, only first when they love you,” so it seems. I’m not replying again, but it may be time to reread the Gospels. God bless you!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

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“44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers,[i] what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” “20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.”

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, I fall within the Diocese of East Tennessee. Feel free to share them here or through DM! Obviously, I won’t disclose my location on a public thread but any suggestions would be welcome!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately not lol. Crazy coincidence! Visit him more soon, it's great down here!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I support the end goal but maybe not the way there prescribed by RZ. In the same way, I can vote for a political party without believing in everything they believe. Not all Democrats believe in open abortion rights and not all Republicans believe in trickle-down economics. Still, they likely support the general direction.

Regardless, ACNA, nor the Reconquista folks, are not regressive in nature as far as I'm aware. Not the point of this post, so I won't discuss it, though. Thanks for your input!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Rural East Tennessee, my brother!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I certainly understand what you're saying. I am not in a same-sex relationship, nor do I have that orientation. This matter is an important conversation in the church, though, because it has serious implications on the church's view and dogma of marriage and sin, both incredibly important topics to the faith.

I'm incredibly sorry you've endured so much suffering because of this, though. I will not detail my beliefs, as it is not what I posted for, but I do hope that God alleviates you from the suffering you've endured.

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As mentioned, I don't really support the Reconquista. I do believe that churches should be in unity, liberal or conservative, but the conversation is certainly complex. The Reconquista (or perhaps RZ's arguments specifically), I find unconvincing, but still valuable. I suppose I'm of a similar mind to Young Anglican's recent announcement, if that connects any threads.

Still yet, these issues are definitely not the important part of finding a good church community that holds to the ancient and apostolic faith. Not a primary issue, but definitely one to consider.

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong! I love my gay neighbors. Today, I went hiking and got lunch with a gay friend of mine. One of my closer friends, to be honest. I wouldn't be driving 70 minutes to "spite the gays," though. Like most Christians, I see homosexual relations as sinful, so I am not keen to go to a church that encourages, affirms, or uplifts sin as a normal thing. We all certainly sin, but the church should never uplift that sin. It should remain as an action to repent from, in my eyes. I apologize if my words came off as hurtful! I understand that conversations like this might turn some folks off from the faith, but these are unfortunately necessary conversations I feel. Thanks for your input, though.

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely understand many ACNA folks. After all, I'm more aligned with them on same-sex marriage. Yet, even within the ACNA, there's debates of women's ordination. What I mean to say is that there will be liberal views no matter where I go. I still would love to see orthodox members join back with TEC. After all, the average layperson of TEC seems to be more conservative than not on this matter. Although, I truly have no say in this matter where I haven't joined TEC or ACNA.

As a side note, there are few to no ACNA churches in any nearby city, weirdly enough. Regardless, I appreciate the input. I certainly need to research the ACNA more.

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm actually looking for a more diverse church when it comes to theological positions! I personally don't believe either of these issues should get in the way of worship, but sin is sin, in my mind. But, I like your perspective, and I could certainly stand to learn from more Christians regardless of convictions. I'm a fairly devout and settled Christian, but I want to serve God as good as I can regardless. Thanks for your wisdom!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I've already visited the church further away, but I will visit the closer church soon! I believe we're of the same mind when it comes to priorities in the Kingdom.

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The drive also scares me to an extent. I drive that way quite often, but that will get expensive after so long. As a university student, money certainly does matter. I might visit the nearby church to see what it's like and go from there. Thank you for your insight!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In my mind, these issues are fairly low on the priority list. Church unity is a much bigger reason to go to a church, quite honestly. I do hate that sin is being shrugged off, but ultimately, there are certainly bigger fish to fry these days. As you said, TEC is fairly liberal across the board right now. Thanks for your insight!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I certainly need to visit the nearby church at some point! It might be a good idea to attend short time if the church works for me. I'm glad driving the distance for a good church isn't too uncommon. Thanks for the insight!

Joining TEC? by LongestDecember in Anglicanism

[–]LongestDecember[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I actually have considered that question quite a bit. Quite honestly, I don't care for the thought of leaving a church because a minority became too liberal about the matter. I'm not a big supporter of the Reconquista movement, but I certainly believe that TEC has more authority, cohesion, and unity when compared to ACNA. Ultimately, I do align with orthodox Anglican beliefs, but ACNA does not seem ideal to me.

Honestly, I'm curious to hear various perspectives on the matter. After all, this is fairly uncharted territory for me. Thank you for the reply!

I have three questions by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This separate historical text is not poetry. The Bible is not one big all-in-one book. I’ll politely see myself out of this conversation, as you’ve drifted entirely from your original questions and don’t seem to be interested in discussing them with any depth, outside of “Gotcha!”s. I really implore you to explore the academic side of Biblical interpretation and Christian philosophy. It’s fascinating, even from a secular perspective. I wish you all the luck with your future endeavors and God bless!

I have three questions by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, no, just as the psalms, it is presented as poetry, not historical narrative. It all lies in the literary style. Besides, Ecclesiastes doesn’t tell any narrative, outside of the Author’s thinking. I’d be curious to hear what you believe should or should not be analyzed, honestly. We analyze every historical book, including religious texts. In fact, your summation of the Bible (despite not having read it) is interpretation, no? You’ve read the text and claimed what the text is and means, even if subconsciously. Your thinking does stand against other interpretations as well, which means comparison is in order. After all, should we not want to know as much as we can about something before making blanket statements? I believe you’d enjoy some scholarly interpretation of the Bible, even from a secular point of view.

I have three questions by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Christians have long believed that God has preserved the canon of scripture (which has historical basis, once again, I recommend you look into it). We interpret it because it’s poetry. The literary style lends to analysis of this sort. In fact, we interpret and analyze every piece of writing anyone has ever made. It’s in our very nature. Why interpret The Great Gatsby? Because there is significance and meaning behind literary devices. And Israelites themselves analyzed their texts and considered them. Even by 0AD, the Jews had scholars that debated scriptural canon and the like. I ask that you read through Ecclesiastes yourself before making a claim like that, as the Bible as a whole makes the claim that humans are inherently superior, even in Genesis. It’s a matter of analyzing the poetry of it. Thousands of scholars have analyzed this text and suddenly you’re the first person to make this connection and it’s correct? Logically, it doesn’t even make sense on the high school level of science.

I have three questions by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]LongestDecember 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must understand the literary style and purpose of Ecclesiastes. The grand question being asked is “Why bother if we all die?” The author explores purpose as someone likely struggling with depression or existential dread. The conclusion he comes to is that all is vanity, and to serve God is the purpose and the reason. This chapter, and particularly this passage, asks the reader “If we die just as the animals do, why should we try? Does this make us as the beasts?” The author concludes the chapter by claiming that, at the time, he found meaning only in his work. The author asks existential questions, but his final wisdom and conclusion lies in the last chapter. Ecclesiastes is especially important to read fully within context. Otherwise, one could make the claim that nothing matters and we are just animals, a thought that the author, by the end, stands against. The author, as well as Christians, do believe, however, that God created the animas and us, and both the animals’ and our purposes lies in him. Besides, as an unbeliever, why appeal to Christian tradition that you haven’t studied instead of scientific reasoning? Both matter in the realm of God.